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Van hits worshippers leaving mosque...
Last thing we need, done intentionally in Finsbury Park...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-40322960
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Why aren't they calling this a terrorist attack?
How can any sick **** purposefully run someone over, these people are sick.
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Originally Posted by
Croesy Blue
Why aren't they calling this a terrorist attack?
How can any sick **** purposefully run someone over, these people are sick.
Will be interesting to see how Katie Hopkins and the daily mail spin this.
Absolutely shocking, RIP to the victims.
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Police are saying potential terrorist attack. I don't think they need to hedge their bets. Another horrible incident, and perhaps the start of an ugly escalation of revenge events.
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The vehicle involved is from Pontyclun Van Hire according to reports.
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Wales-Bales
The vehicle involved is from Pontyclun Van Hire according to reports.
Certainly is - pictures of it on Sky News
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RIP to the victim. I hope it stays at one fatality, but it's got to the stage now where I see that and almost think "that's good, it could have been so much worse".
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I'm with TOBW on this. I hope there are no more casualties.
ISIS strike again in the form of far right idiots
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Croesy Blue
Why aren't they calling this a terrorist attack?
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I knew this comment would be up there with one of the first.
Did you look around the media to see how they were representing it or did you just write this before knowing.
By the way, the media are calling it a terrorist attack.
"Pro-Islamic State channels are using reports of the incident in Finsbury Park to incite Muslims, according to groups which monitor jihadists."
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The Bloop
Certainly is - pictures of it on Sky News
How did the van get from here to London? A local connection perhaps?
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TH63
Will be interesting to see how Katie Hopkins and the daily mail spin this.
Absolutely shocking, RIP to the victims.
What is far more worrying is how a minority of imams and extremists will spin it. :frown:
A Muslim on BBC news earlier began saying he blames the media for the amount of Islamophobia in Europe currently. And they play a big role in attacks like this one.
They cut him off within 5 seconds of him saying it.
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Wales-Bales
How did the van get from here to London? A local connection perhaps?
M4?
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Croesy Blue
Why aren't they calling this a terrorist attack?
How can any sick **** purposefully run someone over, these people are sick.
Certainly were on radio 4 this morning.
Most decent people would think this attack was appalling and just as horrendous as the other attacks in recent weeks.
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Jimmy the Jock
Certainly were on radio 4 this morning.
Most decent people would think this attack was appalling and just as horrendous as the other attacks in recent weeks.
You would hope so but not if these contributors to Yahoo News are representative of the people....
https://uk.yahoo.com/news/vehicle-co...001600373.html
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Croesy Blue
Why aren't they calling this a terrorist attack?
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Heart Radio and BBC & Sky news are all calling it a terrorist attack
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Islamophobic extremist terrorism is as disgusting as Islamist extremist terrorism & must be treated as such.
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Shit I walked past there on Saturday night
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LordKenwyne
I knew this comment would be up there with one of the first.
Did you look around the media to see how they were representing it or did you just write this before knowing.
By the way, the media are calling it a terrorist attack.
"Pro-Islamic State channels are using reports of the incident in Finsbury Park to incite Muslims, according to groups which monitor jihadists."
I'm ahead of uk time so when I first started looking there was no mention of a terrorist attack or it being considered a terorist attck.
I just thought it would be interesting to see if it was reported the same way as the others considering the leanings in the media etc. I still haven't seen the Jo Cox murder called a terrorist attack despite it being the definition of one.
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Latest is that the driver "seems to have mental health issues".
It could be argued that perpetrators of this kind of act are not mentally stable period.
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Croesy Blue
I'm ahead of uk time so when I first started looking there was no mention of a terrorist attack or it being considered a terorist attck.
I just thought it would be interesting to see if it was reported the same way as the others considering the leanings in the media etc. I still haven't seen the Jo Cox murder called a terrorist attack despite it being the definition of one.
Ah ok.
I think Sadiq Khan gets criticised but in these situations he is about the best around.
He called it what it was
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Hope the fella isn't a Welshman. Embarrased enough by our country as it is at the moment.
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ninianclark
I guess we dont know yet if he was a radical Sunni muslim trying to kill Shia muslims , vice versa, or whether he was just a nut job from Pontyclun.
Eyewitnesses report that he said "I want to kill muslims" so with what's being said at the moment, I doubt it's as intricate as Sunni vs Shia.
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Croesy Blue
Why aren't they calling this a terrorist attack?
How can any sick **** purposefully run someone over, these people are sick.
Reporting of this incident will have to be different as the culprit is still alive, so there will be a forthcoming trial.
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Gofer Blue
Disgusting comments.
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Divine Wright
Hope the fella isn't a Welshman. Embarrased enough by our country as it is at the moment.
Why?
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TH63
Will be interesting to see how Katie Hopkins and the daily mail spin this.
Absolutely shocking, RIP to the victims.
Daily Mail Online: Describe attacker as "Terror attacker", and praise Imam with: 'Don't hit him, pin him down': Hero imam saves Finsbury Park terror suspect by calling for calm so police could arrest him. Just a couple of the statements on there.
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TH63
Will be interesting to see how Katie Hopkins and the daily mail spin this.
Absolutely shocking, RIP to the victims.
Hopkins has tweeted that she is going to Finsbury Park to speak to victims, so they will have the opportunity to ask her about her Final Solution comment in person.
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The guy is apparently from the rhondda.
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LordKenwyne
The guy is apparently from the rhondda.
And the f.cking idiot has just potentially made a bad situation even worse. Isis couldn't have wished for a better scenario. I'd wager that he's not mentally ill, just as thick as pigshit.
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Barry Shitpeas
And the f.cking idiot has just potentially made a bad situation even worse. Isis couldn't have wished for a better scenario. I'd wager that he's not mentally ill, just as thick as pigshit.
Guaranteed.
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Barry Shitpeas
And the f.cking idiot has just potentially made a bad situation even worse. Isis couldn't have wished for a better scenario. I'd wager that he's not mentally ill, just as thick as pigshit.
Exactly.
The irony is that this arsehole has given the Muslim idiots more propaganda than any video or training manual could ever hope for.
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LordKenwyne
The guy is apparently from the rhondda.
Where did you get that from?
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GRUMPYS DEN
Where did you get that from?
I can't confirm it but someone I know said he went to school in the rhondda. Got a name but can't put that online for obvious reasons.
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Croesy Blue
It is easy to understand why.
Islamic attacks are far more common around the world.
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LordKenwyne
I can't confirm it but someone I know said he went to school in the rhondda. Got a name but can't put that online for obvious reasons.
Ah!OK.
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LordKenwyne
It is easy to understand why.
Islamic attacks are far more common around the world.
That doesn't explain why at all
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Croesy Blue
That doesn't explain why at all
I think it does because there islamic terrorist attacks are far, far more prevalent around the world.
They are carried out by men of asian origin.
Which is a bigger threat to UK citizens (of all religions and races), islamic terror or right wing terror?.
Granted there haven't been many islamic attacks in the UK, but there have been barely any right wing attacks.
I don't think it is the peoples fault for jumping to conclusions given the state of the world currently. There is not much to compare between islamic terror and right wing terror. The figures are not even close.
Two wrongs don't make a right and Jo Cox was a huge tragedy. But the media don't help as they do half of ISIS' job for them, spreading fear.
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LordKenwyne
I think it does because there islamic terrorist attacks are far, far more prevalent around the world.
They are carried out by men of asian origin.
Which is a bigger threat to UK citizens (of all religions and races), islamic terror or right wing terror?.
Granted there haven't been many islamic attacks in the UK, but there have been barely any right wing attacks.
I don't think it is the peoples fault for jumping to conclusions given the state of the world currently. There is not much to compare between islamic terror and right wing terror. The figures are not even close.
Two wrongs don't make a right and Jo Cox was a huge tragedy. But the media don't help as they do half of ISIS' job for them, spreading fear.
This bit you are spot on imho.
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Just heard a conversation in a chip shop in Cardiff on this subject.
I mentioned that the guy was from south Wales
Chip shop lady 1: but I thought it was a terrorist
Chip shop lady 2: it was
CSL 1 : but he's white
CSL 2 : you can have white terrorists
CSL 1 : no, that's not terrorism, that's retaliation.
I should probably have challenged that attitude, but I bottled it and smiled politely and left.