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They do want civil unrest, I have been saying that for a long time
Nice MS painting, did you go on a course to learn that?
Fruity language from McDonnell as usual (it is good to see somebody get his name right for once). This furore about 'politicising the tragedy' reminds me of that letter from Cameron to Oxfordshire Council giving them a bollocking for cutting actual services. He thought you could make 40% savings simply by removing office admin staff. The reality is very different, cuts will have consequences. No one likes to hear it but plucking numbers out of the air and saying 'cut this much' will result in vital services disapearing. In this instance it might be a reach but the opposition and many many people who aren't even political (especially people with disabled relatives and friends) have been searching for a bullet that the conservatives can't dodge and maybe this is it.
Theresa May hit the nail on the head today albeit in a completely disingenuous way, appealing for a cross party approach to everything surrounding Grenfell. Yes a woman who called an election in order to completely silence opposition voices now wants everyone to get together and have a chat because this is super super srs. Underneath her veil of bullshit and gurning she is right though, this shouldn't be party political - New Labour was all about 'cladding' - pretend public spending funded by enormous private loans. The sad truth is that this country hasn't had a government centred around the needs of it's people for as long as I have been alive, to the point where it is probably impossible now.
Onto your work of art - More politicians saying what is inside their head rather than what is on the script from HQ is probably a good thing whether you like what he is saying or not.
'They' don't seem to be doing a very good job of getting it then, everytime 'they' upset people they do a u-turn.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mrs Steve R
Keep watching :biggrin:Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric Cartman
Maybe, - who are 'they' though?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mrs Steve R
But this is just some anonymous image/meme from an individuals Twitter.
McDonnell and the absolutely clueless Abbott are both extremely dangerous individuals.
The thought of them being heavily involved in a potential Labour government is frightening and would be an absolute nightmare waiting to happen.
As opposed to...?Quote:
Originally Posted by JDerrida
Meanwhile, in a parallel universe where there is no Johnson, Gove, May, and Duncan-Donut ...Quote:
Originally Posted by JDerrida
See how it works now feller?
Probably not... :tumbleweed:
Enjoy your nightmare .
I was just saying I agree with him about that whoever he is, have you ever googled Ideological Subversion?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sgt. Pepper
He's probably from CCHQ or the security services :biggrin:Quote:
Originally Posted by Mrs Steve R
So what are you suggesting?Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
It's all part of the propaganda war.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mrs Steve R
How old are you feller ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sgt. Pepper
If you're old enough to remember that the last labour government destroyed the country's finances, then you would understand why austerity was desperately needed.
If you're older enough you will remember the winter of discontent and very heavily unionised labour governments.
Labour under these clowns will destroy many British businesses.
Unemployment will rise rapidly.
Inflation will race quickly into double figures. Productivity will diminish and Local Authorities will become inefficient bloated monoliths again.
They would take any forces out of the middle east, because Corbyn laughably believes ISIS when they blame the recent terrorist attacks in the UK, on UK foreign policy.
So ISIS say get your forces out, do you seriously believe Islamic terrorism in the UK, in Europe and on every continent on this planet will stop ?
This isn't a difficult one for you sunshine or even for your teen idol Corbyn to answer.
Why do you think ISIS want UK and other forces out of the middle east ?
What do they get out of it ?
What happens to the middle east with only ISIS and other middle east warring factions left?
You are aware of the proximity of Syria to Turkey and Turkey to the rest of Europe.
This isn't just a 2 or 3 year plan. The plan will take as long as is required 20 - 50 years or more.
For younger people who have a tendency to think about immediacy rather than long term plans.
Maybe it's about time you also started to hear those who can see the bigger picture, the long term plans.
It was the global financial crisis that destroyed our economy, along with many other countries in the world. Are you going to blame that on Labour too? :hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by JDerrida
I think Corbyn's point was not that we should vacate these areas because Isis asked us to but that bombing campaigns and drawn out wars have helped to create the conditions and propaganda needed to radicalise people. It is a viewed shared by many high up intelligence and military personal.Quote:
Originally Posted by JDerrida
It all sounds remarkably like 'project fear' to me!!! What is good for the goose is good for the gander.
So are you saying they want it or they don't want it? :biggrin:Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
It's just to keep people in a perpetual state of fear and anxiety. There are loads of paid agents all over the internet who specialise in agitation. Some even do it for free. I think we have a few of them on here :hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by Mrs Steve R
no need to pay anyone to make you feel anxious, its your default state :biggrin:Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
I'm the calmest person in the universe :biggrin: BTW it's easy to spot these fellas, the official manual advises operatives to use ad hominem logical fallacies at every opportunity. It could do with a rewrite in my opinion, either that or just employ smarter people :hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by Packerman
no one about this board smarter than you WaltQuote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
I'm talking about the fella who wrote the Dear John letter to John McDonnell, he's clearly not your average citizen, just somebody getting paid to trigger people like Nick from Croesyceiliog :biggrin:Quote:
Originally Posted by Packerman
Social media is full of stuff like that. I'm sure the people who write them dearly wish they were getting paid.
I know a few regular members who are quite agitating :hehe: we wont need Bear Grylls to get it going, there are sparks everywhere, keep your eye on the alien news too. :hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
The viral ones tend to be professionally written and disseminated via an army of bots.Quote:
Originally Posted by lardy
Don't bother trying to pull the 'look sonny' age card. I can remember the 70's.Quote:
Originally Posted by JDerrida
It is not 1975 though - so much has changed, how could we possibly imagine that 'exactly the same will happen' if we did actually have a left-of-centre Gov't?
In fact, if that's the mature 'wisdom' you speak of ..
You have some very valid points mixed up among all that, but you are coming across as rabid.
Are you calling Nick a bot? :sherlock:Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
To clarify , he didn't use the words murderers in any shape or form .
"murdered by political decisions" who some body/ bodies madeQuote:
Originally Posted by life on mars
Nick from Croesyceiliog is the target audience.Quote:
Originally Posted by lardy
Nice, an end to gutter politics .Quote:
Originally Posted by Packerman
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Originally Posted by JDerrida
Are the rich suffering austerity then?
Were we suffering terrorist attacks from Muslim extremists prior to Iraq?
Have you got the slightest clue how damaging the deliberately targeted austerity is for some people in this country?