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Was it worse than the Rebrand?
I remember when the news broke that we were possibly hours or minutes away of going under and that Sam Hammam was demanding payments for his management companies and i believe a pay off to a family member or the club would go into administration.
The feeling i felt hearing the news was the worse id felt following City and believed it was the end for the club..
Hated the rebrand but the fear of losing my club felt worse..
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It certainly was, and it’s amazing that Scam is still hero worshipped by some!
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Yep, the ****er had us over a barrel wanting a payment for him and his brother.
If I remember rightly Steve Borley broke the news that he had signed on this here board.
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stan butler
I remember when the news broke that we were possibly hours or minutes away of going under and that Sam Hammam was demanding payments for his management companies and i believe a pay off to a family member or the club would go into administration.
The feeling i felt hearing the news was the worse id felt following City and believed it was the end for the club..
Hated the rebrand but the fear of losing my club felt worse..
I remember the solidarity and the atmosphere in the following home game against Sheffield Utd.
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Eric the Half a Bee
I remember the solidarity and the atmosphere in the following home game against Sheffield Utd.
Wasn't that a different time?
That was after black Friday Shirley?
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Very pleased that he has gone for good.
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Charlie
Wasn't that a different time?
That was after black Friday Shirley?
Yes, I thought that's what the op was about. My mistake.
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Charlie
Wasn't that a different time?
That was after black Friday Shirley?
And Super Joe scored the winner. That was a great feeling. Different time though, neither good!
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stan butler
I remember when the news broke that we were possibly hours or minutes away of going under and that Sam Hammam was demanding payments for his management companies and i believe a pay off to a family member or the club would go into administration.
The feeling i felt hearing the news was the worse id felt following City and believed it was the end for the club..
Hated the rebrand but the fear of losing my club felt worse..
I don't think so Stan, we hear that this club or that club will be going under very often but very very rarely happens, with a list min reprieve often being the case, the re-brand happened and although now reversed, the damage done will stick for many years, whilst i've not got a season ticket this year, I do intend to take in quite a few home games this season.
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Cleve van Leef
It certainly was, and it’s amazing that Scam is still hero worshipped by some!
It was 100 times worse! I remember hearing the news and gathering a few friends to listen to updates in the Mason's Arms, Whitchurch as we huddled around a wireless for more news. It was very sombre indeed.
I then drove down to NP where there was a throng of fans outside the old main entrance, where some fans had been invited into said meeting. IIRC, we all sauntered away after a while with a few 'faces' saying Scam had sorted it.
Was that the meeting where Mike Hall came out talking about 'sharks swimming around'?
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Arfur Europe
It was 100 times worse! I remember hearing the news and gathering a few friends to listen to updates in the Mason's Arms, Whitchurch as we huddled around a wireless for more news. It was very sombre indeed.
I then drove down to NP where there was a throng of fans outside the old main entrance, where some fans had been invited into said meeting. IIRC, we all sauntered away after a while with a few 'faces' saying Scam had sorted it.
Was that the meeting where Mike Hall came out talking about 'sharks swimming around'?
I managed to blag my way into that meeting, an interesting hour or so with a few faces not holding back.
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Nelsonca61
I managed to blag my way into that meeting, an interesting hour or so with a few faces not holding back.
In that case, I'm glad there was some sensible fan representation in there at the time. Are we now able to say officially that Nelsonca61 aka Heathblue saved our beloved Bluebirds??
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Arfur Europe
In that case, I'm glad there was some sensible fan representation in there at the time. Are we now able to say officially that Nelsonca61 aka Heathblue saved our beloved Bluebirds??
It was an interesting day!!, cannot remember as to why i was not working but listening as the updates were coming through just decided to go and have a nose at the ground, it wasn't an invite but basically those who were there, were just asked upstairs when Sam arrived, and for all that went on and obviously some of it very bad, I still look back at Sam's time as a positive, I liked his outlook and enthusiasm, for all the bad points he re-energised the club and gave me about 12 years of spending a lot of time with my son who was a season ticket holder with me, my lad's 1st game was the Blackpool home game at the start of Sam's era, the real downward spiral for me was the Ridler era.
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And yet Sam the scam still revered by certain people even though he tried to take the club for all its worth.
It ****ing stinks.
Tannis keeps banging on and on about Tan even though he told him we would take his 100m for a change to red, yet won't have nothing said against Sam. Hmmmmmmm.
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I didn't see any resistance from Tannis when we were winning the championship, only when we were getting relegated from the Prem and he tried to take the credit for Sian and Bluebirds United. Hmmmmmmm.
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Nelsonca61
It was an interesting day!!, cannot remember as to why i was not working but listening as the updates were coming through just decided to go and have a nose at the ground, it wasn't an invite but basically those who were there, were just asked upstairs when Sam arrived, and for all that went on and obviously some of it very bad, I still look back at Sam's time as a positive, I liked his outlook and enthusiasm, for all the bad points he re-energised the club and gave me about 12 years of spending a lot of time with my son who was a season ticket holder with me, my lad's 1st game was the Blackpool home game at the start of Sam's era, the real downward spiral for me was the Ridler era.
Now I've matured a bit, I do now see that Sam in hindsight, was a necessary evil for us to be plucked from basement / dungeon perennial doom to the heights of the Championship. He did indeed spot a 'sleeping giant' and lifted us up, albeit by very dubious means.
His energy, enthusiasm and what I do believe was his love for us (watching every match including down to the Academy / U18s etc) was real.
However, the neverending 'end' of his connection soured my memories of him completely. I'm now completely glad the specter of Hammam has been removed from the club and we're all free to move onwards and upwards.
I'm now looking forward immensely to the new campaign. We now have real football people at the club for the first time in ages
(Sam was undoubtedly a football man, I'll give him that), and Vincent Tan and Ken Choo are backing them.
I'm genuinely excited for the new season. I even think the new kit looks good looking at the Taffs Well photos!
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Eric the Half a Bee
I remember the solidarity and the atmosphere in the following home game against Sheffield Utd.
Was it there after the rebrand? I remember stories of fans fighting on the terraces.
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The rebrand was fukall, cos deep down we all new it was only temporary. It was never gonna last
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Kris
Was it there after the rebrand? I remember stories of fans fighting on the terraces.
Yes because fans never fought on the terraces before the rebrand did they?
:donkey:
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J R Hartley
And yet Sam the scam still revered by certain people even though he tried to take the club for all its worth.
It ****ing stinks.
Tannis keeps banging on and on about Tan even though he told him we would take his 100m for a change to red, yet won't have nothing said against Sam. Hmmmmmmm.
Just a thought and correct me if i'm wrong here but i'm sure he was very vocal in protests against Clemo , Ridsdale and Tan but can't seem to remember him saying anything about Sam Hammam or trying to organise a protest. :shrug:
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J R Hartley
Yes because fans never fought on the terraces before the rebrand did they?
:donkey:
Thanks for the polite response CCFCCasual.
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J R Hartley
I didn't see any resistance from Tannis when we were winning the championship, only when we were getting relegated from the Prem and he tried to take the credit for Sian and Bluebirds United. Hmmmmmmm.
Sian did a good job with Bluebirds Unite, Didnt he or someone else try to change the name and ended up falling out with them?
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Kris
Thanks for the polite response CCFCCasual.
Neigh problem Jirga
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J R Hartley
Neigh problem Jirga
Wrong horse and jockey mate.
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stan butler
Sian did a good job with Bluebirds Unite, Didnt he or someone else try to change the name and ended up falling out with them?
I dunno the blokes fecking deluded.
Been surrounded by minions all his life, don't like the truth.
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J R Hartley
If you say so, and I'm not your mate you ****
Lol
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J R Hartley
If you say so, and I'm not your mate you ****
Tough guy.
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Kris
Tough guy.
You're boring me now "Kris"
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J R Hartley
You're boring me now "Kris"
Sorry "mate".
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Kris
Sorry "mate".
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Silures
The rebrand was fukall, cos deep down we all new it was only temporary. It was never gonna last
This was always my feeling on the red shirts. We were over a barrel. We had no chips in that game of poker, so we took a reprieve.
I honestly couldn't get worked up about it, knowing it would all be a short lived fad. It didn't look right on the eye, but I knew it was still Cardiff City FC. Fair play to those who felt more strongly, and who campaigned, but for me it was enjoy the moment and the investment.
The crowning moment is still that time if / when we get promoted and play in our more natural colours in the Premier League. It won't help our chances per se, but it will go down on that list of kits that is bandied around on here.
Of more concern to me personally, is we get enough fans through the gates this season to FORCE the doors open of the extra tier, giving us 30k plus crowds.
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J R Hartley
Jump Jump
Please don't.
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Astute prediction of the failure of the re-brand in the week that it was announced:
https://sabotagetimes.com/football/w...keting-failure
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I'm not sure why this comparison is really necessary. It only seems to trivialise something some people felt strongly about (not suggesting the OP was intending to do this).
And where do you stop with that argument? I remember at the time there were references to starving children in Africa!
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Arfur Europe
This was always my feeling on the red shirts. We were over a barrel. We had no chips in that game of poker, so we took a reprieve.
I honestly couldn't get worked up about it, knowing it would all be a short lived fad. It didn't look right on the eye, but I knew it was still Cardiff City FC. Fair play to those who felt more strongly, and who campaigned, but for me it was enjoy the moment and the investment.
The crowning moment is still that time if / when we get promoted and play in our more natural colours in the Premier League. It won't help our chances per se, but it will go down on that list of kits that is bandied around on here.
Of more concern to me personally, is we get enough fans through the gates this season to FORCE the doors open of the extra tier, giving us 30k plus crowds.
:hehe::hehe::hehe::hehe::hehe::hehe:
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Arfur Europe
This was always my feeling on the red shirts. We were over a barrel. We had no chips in that game of poker, so we took a reprieve.
I honestly couldn't get worked up about it, knowing it would all be a short lived fad. It didn't look right on the eye, but I knew it was still Cardiff City FC. Fair play to those who felt more strongly, and who campaigned, but for me it was enjoy the moment and the investment.
The crowning moment is still that time if / when we get promoted and play in our more natural colours in the Premier League. It won't help our chances per se, but it will go down on that list of kits that is bandied around on here.
Of more concern to me personally, is we get enough fans through the gates this season to FORCE the doors open of the extra tier, giving us 30k plus crowds.
I wasn't so sure it was temporary, and I'm sure others felt like that. If we'd stayed up, we might still be there now and we'd be in red still in all likelihood; and I wouldn't have a football club to support. For me, I thought getting relegated would be the only way to reverse the rebrand. I'll admit to being extremely bitter but there were some days, I'd see the score and were happy we'd lost. I wanted to be big enough to get over it but I was too petty, and remember feeling very conflicted when Cala scored the winner against Southampton. Anyway, all in the past now, onwards and upwards!
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Pedro de la Rosa
I wasn't so sure it was temporary, and I'm sure others felt like that. If we'd stayed up, we might still be there now and we'd be in red still in all likelihood; and I wouldn't have a football club to support. For me, I thought getting relegated would be the only way to reverse the rebrand. I'll admit to being extremely bitter but there were some days, I'd see the score and were happy we'd lost. I wanted to be big enough to get over it but I was too petty, and remember feeling very conflicted when Cala scored the winner against Southampton. Anyway, all in the past now, onwards and upwards!
A full house every week in the Premier League would have ensured that the re-brand need not be reversed from Tan's point of view.
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I wonder if any long-term Cardiff City supporters lost their love for the club and stopped attending matches, either completely or regularly, as a result of the game of financial chicken that was played out between the Lebanese loon and the local property mafia?
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The Lone Gunman
I wonder if any long-term Cardiff City supporters lost their love for the club and stopped attending matches, either completely or regularly, as a result of the game of financial chicken that was played out between the Lebanese loon and the local property mafia?
Possibly some did but no doubt only a few. Same as the rebrand not many stopped going because of it and the majority of the ones that did had a delayed rebrand reaction that only came into effect when we left the premiership. Unlike you whom i know stopped going straight away :thumbup: