http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-40665659
Joking aside (Cardiff get everything, Jacks would raid the meter, etc)
this is a bloody stupid, shortsighted decision.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-40665659
Joking aside (Cardiff get everything, Jacks would raid the meter, etc)
this is a bloody stupid, shortsighted decision.
Hardly surprising, unit doesn't benefit the south east of England then it is very difficult to get anyone interested in an infrastructure projectQuote:
Originally Posted by bobh
Must admit I don't understand what the impact of electrification is. Does it mean trains being all electric like the tube?
No they’ll be faster, but still not on time and over crowdedQuote:
Originally Posted by TH63
Every slight like this is another vote for Plaid.
I presume they are less reliant on working parts ,cleaner environmentally , quicker ,strangely another benefit which the article suggests is dropped they can connect to a wider network .Quote:
Originally Posted by TH63
I just looked it upQuote:
Originally Posted by life on mars
https://www.networkrail.co.uk/our-ra...ectrification/
Not to mention the dual fuel trains are heavier, therefore increasing wear of the tracks.Quote:
Originally Posted by bobh
Does this mean no valley lines electrification either? Or was that already off the cards, as you'd have thought that would have the bigger impact than just doing the mainline as far as Cardiff
Thicko question - Does it mean that if you're travelling from London to Swansea that you'll have to change trains at Cardiff?
Haven't they already built the depot for the electric trains adjacent to Swansea station?
Wales didn't vote Tory so doesn't get badly needed infrastructure.
That's the way, at this moment I shall say UK because it's probably not just one party who looks at it this way, UK politics works.
Meanwhile in India they launched a solar panel train. UK needs to look to a more greener innovative solution for public transport, countries a joke ffs!
Hyperloop first trials took place this week. Next step is a 250mph trial.Quote:
Originally Posted by OurManFlint II
Ultimately rising to 700mph.
We should forget electrification and go straight for that.
Cardiff to Swansea in less than 4 minutes.
How would that work when everyone sits on the roof?Quote:
Originally Posted by OurManFlint II
Its deterrent, panels are fake!Quote:
Originally Posted by The Bloop
Just a change of engines, this will take longer than the time taken from London to Cardiff.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Bloop
How anyone would believe in the Tories investing anything further west than Cardiff is living in dreamland. They really don’t want electrification in Wales at all.
never mind that bobh cardiff parkway is coming :thumbup:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-s...wales-40669006
10 years too late but still....
It was never going to happen, west of Cardiff is viewed as farming land or somewhere to go on holiday in London. Let's be honest, Swansea has very little going for it in many ways particularly business.
Monorail.
Cardiff does get everything yes. But a stronger, better connected Swansea is better for Cardiff.
But they told us that was coming over 20 years ago!Quote:
Originally Posted by MOZZER2
Besides, my free bus pass won't work on the trains :hide:
And poor transport links will make it more and more that way, let alone further along the track again.Quote:
Originally Posted by goats
Eventually, if 'we' are not careful 'we all' may up living towards the centre of the country, with absolutely no feck given about the more 'remote' areas !
Except for occasional holidays, where the visitor might also note the fact that the places are run down and have no amenities, no surgeries, no hospitals, poor transport, abandoned areas and un-repaired roads, unmotivated locals dealing with demanding customers for 6 quid an hour for a few hours a week .. etc etc
And thus never go again! And warn others off. Thus compounding the issue.
It could happen. It already is beginning to.
On a trial run today
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According to the Tory government, an electrified railway line (HS2), driven despite massive opposition through housing estates, open countryside and ecological habitats, is ESSENTIAL for the economic development of northern England.
According to Chris Grayling, transport minister, the people of south and west Wales are better off with diesels, and without all that tiresome fuss and bother of putting up steel gantries and wires along existing tracks.
According to a senior Tory on the Bridgend County Borough Council, electrification would be "nice" but not "essential".
So let's all be quite clear, the Tory view is that the north is an economic Power-house, while Wales is some sort of second class Sh*te-house.
You were once of the opinion that at no point in history was Wales being oppressed by the English.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee
Once the train leaves Cardiff from London, there is usually about 3 paying passengers and a dog who complete the journey 30 miles west, from an economic point, the gov is right not to spend the dough. However, being told the eco environment is at critical level and that all cars in 30 years time require to be leccy, the gov doesn't know its arse from its elbow and is just making it up day day.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee
All cars will be electric long before 30 years time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nelsonca61
That's the way of the world unfortunately. Many publications estimate that by 2050 70% of the worlds population will live in cities. With a burgeoning population it makes sense to concentrate amineities on where they can serve more people, more effiently, for a lower resource cost per head.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sgt. Pepper
Should we pander to rural communities who for the most choose to live there without necessity or choose where we as a country can get more 'bang for our buck'