Strachan blames 'Genetics' for their WC qualifying exit

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08-10-17, 19:27
Arfur Europe

Strachan blames 'Genetics' for their WC qualifying exit

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/live/football/41492097

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08-10-17, 19:37
Kiffa

Re: Strachan blames 'Genetics' for their WC qualifying exit

I don't know what's more mental - blaming genetics or going on to suggest that it could be "looked at"
08-10-17, 19:47
Baloo

Re: Strachan blames 'Genetics' for their WC qualifying exit

So Scotland and Spain are proof of this theory?
08-10-17, 19:55
rs3100

Re: Strachan blames 'Genetics' for their WC qualifying exit

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Originally Posted by Kiffa

I don't know what's more mental - blaming genetics or going on to suggest that it could be "looked at"

I know what is sadder though - me running a statistical analysis on the heights of the two squads.
Scotland mean height 182cm
Slovenia mean height 183cm

Using the Mann Whitney Non Parametric test I can say that Gordon is talking through his backside (p=0.445).
08-10-17, 20:00
Arfur Europe

Re: Strachan blames 'Genetics' for their WC qualifying exit

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Originally Posted by rs3100

I know what is sadder though - me running a statistical analysis on the heights of the two squads.
Scotland mean height 182cm
Slovenia mean height 183cm

Using the Mann Whitney Non Parametric test I can say that Gordon is talking through his backside (p=0.445).

Projecting his own 'Small Man Syndrome' on the squad / nation?
08-10-17, 20:02
rs3100

Re: Strachan blames 'Genetics' for their WC qualifying exit

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Originally Posted by Arfur Europe

Projecting his own 'Small Man Syndrome' on the squad / nation?

More like grasping at straws.
08-10-17, 20:02
Nick

Re: Strachan blames 'Genetics' for their WC qualifying exit

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Originally Posted by Arfur Europe

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/live/football/41492097

:sherlock:

I’d prefer to view it as karma, for when that dirty cheat Joe Jordan cheated Wales out of qualification.
08-10-17, 20:05
Arfur Europe

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Originally Posted by Nick

I’d prefer to view it as karma, for when that dirty cheat Joe Jordan cheated Wales out of qualification.

There is most definitely that although I was hoping we'd personally be able to serve up some long awaited qualifying Karma here (should we make the Play Offs) but football goes in cycles and we sure as hell will get our chance to right those Scotland wrongs some other time.
08-10-17, 20:12
Heathblue

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Originally Posted by Arfur Europe

There is most definitely that although I was hoping we'd personally be able to serve up some long awaited qualifying Karma here (should we make the Play Offs) but football goes in cycles and we sure as hell will get our chance to right those Scotland wrongs some other time.

I'd rather wait until after the Irish game, we have enough quality to beat them without GB, but, everyone loves the Irish!!!, lets hope the ref keeps it impartial, we've been here before a number of times and been tucked up.
08-10-17, 20:43
Jimmy the Jock

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I hope Strachan keeps his job . Done a half decent job with limited resources.
08-10-17, 20:44
Badly Ironed Shirt

Re: Strachan blames 'Genetics' for their WC qualifying exit

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Originally Posted by Kiffa

I don't know what's more mental - blaming genetics or going on to suggest that it could be "looked at"

Brilliant.
08-10-17, 20:46
Badly Ironed Shirt

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Originally Posted by Nick

I’d prefer to view it as karma, for when that dirty cheat Joe Jordan cheated Wales out of qualification.

Enjoyable to see the Scots fail again, but I may regret saying that if Wales are in the play-offs. Scotland over two legs would have been a breeze.
08-10-17, 20:48
Dr Lecter

Re: Strachan blames 'Genetics' for their WC qualifying exit

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Originally Posted by Jimmy the Jock

I hope Strachan keeps his job . Done a half decent job with limited resources.

Agreed.

If you look at the players they've got along with the standard of football some of them are playing, they've done well to be in contention.
08-10-17, 21:09
WJ99mobile

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Taking history out of it, I’d like to see the Scots do well
08-10-17, 21:28
Arfur Europe

Re: Strachan blames 'Genetics' for their WC qualifying exit

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Originally Posted by WJ99mobile

Taking history out of it, I’d like to see the Scots do well

Same here. Putting aside them dry buttf*cking us a couple of times during Qualifying, they're ok in my book :biggrin:
08-10-17, 21:28
Ainsley Harriott

Re: Strachan blames 'Genetics' for their WC qualifying exit

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Originally Posted by Kiffa

I don't know what's more mental - blaming genetics or going on to suggest that it could be "looked at"

I'm sure eugenics is always something Strachan could look into...
08-10-17, 21:41
Badly Ironed Shirt

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Originally Posted by Ainsley Harriott

I'm sure eugenics is always something Strachan could look into...

He may be onto something, England have failed to win a World Cup since 1966 on account of them still playing football as if it were 1923. That has to be genetics right?
08-10-17, 22:08
rs3100

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Originally Posted by Badly Ironed Shirt

He may be onto something, England have failed to win a World Cup since 1966 on account of them still playing football as if it were 1923. That has to be genetics right?

Nature vs Nurture. I'd bet $1 it's nurture.
08-10-17, 22:15
Baloo

Re: Strachan blames 'Genetics' for their WC qualifying exit

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Originally Posted by Jimmy the Jock

I hope Strachan keeps his job . Done a half decent job with limited resources.

Not sure if pun.
08-10-17, 22:28
Divine Wright

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Originally Posted by Arfur Europe

Projecting his own 'Small Man Syndrome' on the squad / nation?

Oi.

Nothin' wrong with syndromes. Some of my best friends have them.
09-10-17, 06:53
the other bob wilson

Re: Strachan blames 'Genetics' for their WC qualifying exit

Yeah, just imagine what Maradona (five foot five) or Messi (five foot seven) would have been like if they were, say, six foot three?

It's sad that someone like five foot six inch tall Gordon Strachan (who would be an automatic selection in the Scotland team if he were playing today) believes that Scotland didn't qualify because they weren't tall enough.

The best club side I've seen (the Barcelona of six or seven years ago) were not so good because of their size and strength, they were great because, as the history of the game shows us, at the very top level, the better footballing team tends to win no matter what sort of physical advantage their opponents may enjoy.

Can anyone come up with a player of six foot three or above who could legitimately be described as the best player on the planet at any time during their career? Being very generous, I'd suggest Gullit and Ibrahimović as possibilities, but I don't really believe it to be true of either of them.
09-10-17, 06:58
Baloo

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

Yeah, just imagine what Maradona (five foot five) or Messi (five foot seven) would have been like if they were, say, six foot three?

It's sad that someone like five foot six inch tall Gordon Strachan (who would be an automatic selection in the Scotland if he was playing today) believes that Scotland didn't qualify because they weren't tall enough.

The best club side I've seen (the Barcelona of six or seven years ago) were not so good because of their size and strength, they were great because, as the history of the game shows us, the better footballing team tends to win no matter what sort of physical advantage their opponents may enjoy.

Can anyone come up with a player of six foot three or above who could legitimately be described as the best player on the planet at any time during their career? Being very generous, I'd suggest Gullit and Ibrahimović as possibilities, but I don't really believe it to be true of either of them.

John Charles?

I was a late developer and was often overlooked as a kid for bigger, stronger lads. Not that I'm still bitter like, and I don't think anybody would really take these comments seriously, but they are backward and a bit weird.
09-10-17, 07:06
lardy

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Zigic at Brum, what a player.
09-10-17, 07:09
the other bob wilson

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Originally Posted by Baloo

Not sure he was over 6-3 but John Charles?

I was a late developer and was often overlooked as a kid for bigger, stronger lads. Not that I'm still bitter like, and I don't think anybody would really take these comments seriously, but they are backward and a bit weird.

The six foot two John Charles is the reason I said six foot three :thumbup:!

All of the truly great players I've seen in my life time were all of a certain height except for Ronaldo (I saw John Charles play, but he was a long way past his best when I did so, therefore I wouldn't place him in that very high level - my old man was adamant that Charles was the best player he saw mind).

I had the same experience as you when I was in primary school in that I was generally considered to be a better footballer than the bigger lads who were picked in front of me by the rugby loving teacher in charge of the school team. As I grew up and got to know more about the two sports, I consoled myself with the thought that rugby was one of those size obsessed sports where brute force and ignorance can count for more than talent in a way that just doesn't happen in football - I think that still holds true, but I'm not quite as sure about it as I used to be.
09-10-17, 07:32
TH63

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Originally Posted by Nick

I’d prefer to view it as karma, for when that dirty cheat Joe Jordan cheated Wales out of qualification.

This. Some things can never be forgiven or forgotten.

I could just about forgive the handball if it weren't for his fist pump.
09-10-17, 07:42
Arfur Europe

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Originally Posted by TH63

This. Some things can never be forgiven or forgotten.

I could just about forgive the handball if it weren't for his fist pump.

Not to mention actually kissing the sleeve the ball hit :furious:
09-10-17, 08:11
Taunton Blue Genie

Re: Strachan blames 'Genetics' for their WC qualifying exit

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Originally Posted by rs3100

More like grasping at straws.

...that are on the top shelf.
09-10-17, 08:11
Taunton Blue Genie

Re: Strachan blames 'Genetics' for their WC qualifying exit

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Originally Posted by TH63

This. Some things can never be forgiven or forgotten.

I could just about forgive the handball if it weren't for his fist pump.

:malky:
09-10-17, 08:27
TH63

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09-10-17, 10:26
lardy

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Peter Crouch needs to set up a sperm bank north of the border.
09-10-17, 10:34
Algynon

Re: Strachan blames 'Genetics' for their WC qualifying exit

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Originally Posted by Jimmy the Jock

I hope Strachan keeps his job . Done a half decent job with limited resources.

I agree that he has done well with what he had to work with but to claim that the reason they did not qualify is because they are not tall enough is complete nonsense. More to do with a lack of quality than any other reason.
09-10-17, 11:25
jon1959

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Originally Posted by Jimmy the Jock

I hope Strachan keeps his job . Done a half decent job with limited resources.

I hope he keeps his job too. I have no idea whether he has been a good manager/coach or not given the resources Scotland have (not paid enough attention to the Scottish national team in recent years) but when he is in the mood he is the most entertaining manager in the history of the game. There was a thread on here about 10 years ago by PontBlue that listed about 40 Strachan one-liners and I had it pinned on my wall at work. Whenever anyone was on a downer I used to read out a few and laugh out loud. Changed the mood 100%. A sample from a few years ago:

https://sabotagetimes.com/football/3...fans-must-read

30. On Wayne Rooney: "It's an incredible rise to stardom. At 17 you're more likely to get a call from Michael Jackson than Sven Goran Eriksson."

9. Gary Lineker: "So Gordon, if you were English, what formation would you play?"
Strachan: "If I was English I'd top myself."

3. Reporter: "So, Gordon, in what areas do you think Middlesbrough were better than you today?"
Strachan: "What areas? Mainly that big green one out there…"

1. Reporter: "Gordon, can we have a quick word please?"
Strachan: "Velocity."
09-10-17, 11:58
J R Hartley

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Originally Posted by jon1959

I hope he keeps his job too. I have no idea whether he has been a good manager/coach or not given the resources Scotland have (not paid enough attention to the Scottish national team in recent years) but when he is in the mood he is the most entertaining manager in the history of the game. There was a thread on here about 10 years ago by PontBlue that listed about 40 Strachan one-liners and I had it pinned on my wall at work. Whenever anyone was on a downer I used to read out a few and laugh out loud. Changed the mood 100%. A sample from a few years ago:

https://sabotagetimes.com/football/3...fans-must-read

30. On Wayne Rooney: "It's an incredible rise to stardom. At 17 you're more likely to get a call from Michael Jackson than Sven Goran Eriksson."

9. Gary Lineker: "So Gordon, if you were English, what formation would you play?"
Strachan: "If I was English I'd top myself."

3. Reporter: "So, Gordon, in what areas do you think Middlesbrough were better than you today?"
Strachan: "What areas? Mainly that big green one out there…"

1. Reporter: "Gordon, can we have a quick word please?"
Strachan: "Velocity."

:hehe:

Velocity :hehe:

I do like GS. Very dry sense of humour.

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