Euro 20 qualifying will now be a lot harder as we slip into League B.
Any of those 5 (Five) leads we had which we let slip, have now had a much more dramatic consequence!
http://bbc.co.uk/sport/football/41580638
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Euro 20 qualifying will now be a lot harder as we slip into League B.
Any of those 5 (Five) leads we had which we let slip, have now had a much more dramatic consequence!
http://bbc.co.uk/sport/football/41580638
would have been good to have had a chance to go into the final 4 competition
So it is set in stone, we will 100% not be a top seed for the Euro qualifiers?.
I like this idea but that seems a bit harsh given they start in 2 years.
http://www.uefa.com/uefanationsleagu...2507364.html#/
Here's the full line up. Put your money on our group of 3 being Wales, ROI & NI
It all looks rather complicated.
The interesting bit is where it says "The overall Nations League rankings will determine the composition of the draw pots for the subsequent European qualifiers". Group B winners get promoted, so I'm guessing that means if we can win our group in League B, we'll be in a better position than if we finished bottom of a group in League A. We aren't likely to win a group in League A and gain qualification that way, so doing well in League B might be better for us in terms of seedings than doing badly in League A.
Or have I misinterpreted the whole thing?
**Football Association in over complicated system shocker**
More UEFA in over complicated system shocker, but agreed!Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve R
And FIFA don't forget.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee
UEFA Nations League: all you need to know
http://www.uefa.com/uefaeuro/news/newsid=2079553.html
This gave me a headache.
Whist the idea is decent it doesn't appear to have been done very well. Will just mean all the good teams just playing each other more often . As I see it it appears to put us at an advantage for this
One man to blame for me taxi for Jack Coleman
Please tell this is the end of International football and all the tribal crap it brings and mind numbing safety group games until the last few.
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Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee
in the BBC article, it says that the 4 winners of league A go into a mini group to decide the winner. It doesn't say how the winners of groups B, C and D (and thus the automatic qualifiers) will be decided?
what happens if winners of A, B, C and D are all drawn in the same qualifying group? if its a group of 6 the other two would automatically qualify
I think your pc is broke.Quote:
Originally Posted by life on mars
How will it be harder? We might win our group in B, and therefore could win the Nations League B? It is beneficial to be as low as possible. We'd get relegated in A anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by Arfur Europe
He's so inept we've lost 4 competitive games out of 26. We have lost 2 qualifiers in the last two campaigns. What a disgrace. We've lost to England, Portugal, Bosnia (in a game that didn't matter) and ROI.Quote:
Originally Posted by nins27
In qualifying for 2014, we lost 6 games. In the 2012 Euro campaign, we lost 6 games. In 2010, we lost 6. In 2008, we lost 5.
Coleman is so out of his depth that all the players want him to stay and we only reached a Euro Semi Final.
But what have the Romans ever done for us?Quote:
Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa
From your many posts attacking Coleman it seems as if the fact he is from Swansea is 100 times more important to you than his record as Wales manager and the transformation in the team/culture that he completed after Gary Speed's start.Quote:
Originally Posted by nins27
Coleman has his weaknesses and limitations like all managers - but in my opinion he is the best we have had in over 40 years and the attacks seem contrived and petty. I expect him to move on, but if he decides to stay (with the full backing of the FAW and the squad) I will be happy with that.
It seems that way doesn't it. Like it's better to be on the worst group where the opposition is easier to beat? Or is it just a way to make sure all the lesser footballing nations knock each other out?Quote:
Originally Posted by mazadona10
All it says is that the winners of those groups get promoted. I'm presuming in time for the seedings for the qualifiers, otherwise there's no point.Quote:
Originally Posted by TISS
I think that's the point actually. Nobody can fecking work it all out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa
I had a good look at it earlier, watched their crappy animated videos and I'm still none the wiser.
Throw into all that lot, the fact that there are 13 host nations for the actual 'Final' tournament, and you have a proper dog's dinner on your hands.
I get the fact that it does away with the need for pointless Friendlies, and I understood it up to the point where they introduced Promotion and Relegation from the various groups, but then I fell into an incomprehensible abyss again :frown:
I was hoping for some clarity from Wiki, but even they seem flummoxed :facepalm:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Nations_League
I'm keenly looking out for some clever dick on Twitter or suchlike, to provide an animated graphic showing how it all actually works.
I don't get it. Who the feck dreamed this pile o sh*te up. Does it mean that the top teams play each other more? I haven't read it in fairness cause it just put me off but what I did read was beyond me. Who qualifies for what and how? or does this replace friendly's so they become mandatory? Can they do that? What if you just want the lads in to feck about and play ping pong against the younger lads for a laugh and go to Portugal to train and foster some spirit? Never mind I will sift through the charts and the like n work it out.
Yes I'd rather be in group DQuote:
Originally Posted by mazadona10
Wales will be drawn into a group of 3.
However there will also be a separate qualification process for euro 2020.
If wales
Come 1st. They will be promoted for the next time this happens to group a.
Have a chance to compete in a 4 team tournament from teams from their league to win a chance at euro 2020 (that's if they don't qualify automatically).
Come 2nd
stay in that same league
If the team who has won their league has already qualified for euro 2020 play in the tournament
Come 3rd
Get relegated to league c.
Still have a chance to play in tournament if teams who came 1st and 2nd have already qualified.
Watch the videos on the Uefa website for anyone confused, it seems complex but is relatively straight forward. If ultimately all you're wondering is the qualification for the euros then it doesn't change too much, top 2 go to the finals but the qualification starts much later, next year we have the nations league and if we don't finish top 2 in our group then that gives us a good backup.
The downside of being out of group a is that if we weren't to qualify automatically for the euro finals then we'd be almost guaranteed a playoff, with the likelihood of some fairly poor teams being added to our playoffs.
Regardless with a decent draw a top 2 place should be possible
So you're saying people actually qualify for the actual tournament by winning in the nations league?
Or does the nations league just decide the grouping for the qualifying games?.
That is what I'm struggling with :sherlock:
20 of the 24 teams for the Euros are decided by qualifying. There will be a playoff from the 4 Leagues, A, B, C and D to decide who qualifies through the nations league.Quote:
Originally Posted by LordKenwyne
If you have already qualified, you don't take part and your place is taken by the team finishing below you. I'm not sure what's going to happen in A, as I expect there's a slim chance that 4 teams in A don't qualify.
Cheers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa
So people will be going all out in the nations league.
This is still doing my head in trying to wrap my head around this explanation:
http://www.faw.cymru/en/news/wales-a...ations-league/
I'll watch the videos after work I think
Edit- AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaah I understand.
The nations league playoff only comes into play after the actual qualifying games.