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Defeat better than a draw !
Walking out of the stadium with a defeat we were all downcast but knew we were out.
With all of the pressure & emotion of the closing minutes, if we had equalised, the stadium would have gone mental, hopes raised and most people not realising we were already knocked out anyway as Croatia had won.
Personally, I'd rather take the 1st option rather than the 2nd, which would have an been horrendous high to low within a couple of minutes.
(Greece had already qualified as their last game was against bottom Gibralter & Slovakia had a better goal difference)
Just saying like!
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Re: Defeat better than a draw !
I don't think any of us thought a goal would have seen us through. we knew we needed to win
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Re: Defeat better than a draw !
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Originally Posted by
Des Parrot
Walking out of the stadium with a defeat we were all downcast but knew we were out.
With all of the pressure & emotion of the closing minutes, if we had equalised, the stadium would have gone mental, hopes raised and most people not realising we were already knocked out anyway as Croatia had won.
Personally, I'd rather take the 1st option rather than the 2nd, which would have an been horrendous high to low within a couple of minutes.
(Greece had already qualified as their last game was against bottom Gibralter & Slovakia had a better goal difference)
Just saying like!
Agree. I've come to terms with it already. We were beaten in a match we had to win so didn't deserve it. If we'd have drawn and gone through the campaign undefeated, I'd still probably be weighing-up the what-ifs.
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I'd have much preferred a draw. Would have eliminated the Irish, who in my mind, don't deserve a playoff place.
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We would have stopped Ireland progressing though, and they really didn't deserve it, so I was actually hoping for an equaliser while the game was still in progress!
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Re: Defeat better than a draw !
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Originally Posted by
Eric the Half a Bee
I'd have much preferred a draw. Would have eliminated the Irish, who in my mind, don't deserve a playoff place.
Great minds ...
I used to like Ireland and I always supported them in tournaments, but now I hate the feckers :hehe:
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Re: Defeat better than a draw !
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Originally Posted by
Eric the Half a Bee
I'd have much preferred a draw. Would have eliminated the Irish, who in my mind, don't deserve a playoff place.
Though we ended up with more points than you.
You can dislike our style and commitment all you like. At the end of the day, we did it.
I'll ask you a straight forward question. We are up against Wolves in a win all promotion game. Would you accept a win by all means performance?
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Louth
Though we ended up with more points than you.
You can dislike our style and commitment all you like. At the end of the day, we did it.
I'll ask you a straight forward question. We are up against Wolves in a win all promotion game. Would you accept a win by all means performance?
You condone the Irish thuggery, then? That's all we need to know.
To answer your question, I'd happily accept a defensive performance and hope to pinch a win. I wouldn't accept Cardiff players intentionally elbowing, headbutting etc.
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Originally Posted by
Eric the Half a Bee
You condone the Irish thuggery, then? That's all we need to know.
To answer your question, I'd happily accept a defensive performance and hope to pinch a win. I wouldn't accept Cardiff players intentionally elbowing, headbutting etc.
I don't accept it was thuggery at all. My question was hypothetical.
You could look at Ramsey's challenge (and resulting dive) and Allen's booking, if they were Irish you'd be screaming blue murder.
Allen's injury was accidental.
I haven't heard the Welsh camp complain. In fact Coleman pre game said 'it'll be like a derby' very tough.
Remember Seamus Coleman's broken leg? Taylor gets sent off and Roy Keane shakes his hand. In Dublin the game was very physical, it was expected and accepted.
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Originally Posted by
Louth
I don't accept it was thuggery at all. My question was hypothetical.
You could look at Ramsey's challenge (and resulting dive) and Allen's booking, if they were Irish you'd be screaming blue murder.
Allen's injury was accidental.
I haven't heard the Welsh camp complain. In fact Coleman pre game said 'it'll be like a derby' very tough.
Remember Seamus Coleman's broken leg? Taylor gets sent off and Roy Keane shakes his hand. In Dublin the game was very physical, it was expected and accepted.
McClean seems to do a lot of these accidental things, poor lad must be very clumsy
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I've come to terms with it already, bring on Friday back to our club come on city
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Eric Cartman
McClean seems to do a lot of these accidental things, poor lad must be very clumsy
What clumsy thing?
I'd have him at the city in a heartbeat
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Originally Posted by
Eric the Half a Bee
You condone the Irish thuggery, then? That's all we need to know.
To answer your question, I'd happily accept a defensive performance and hope to pinch a win. I wouldn't accept Cardiff players intentionally elbowing, headbutting etc.
neither would I. if that's all they have to offer then they shouldn't be playing.
the Irish tactics were a result of them being an inferior team in all departments on the pitch. if they played defensively and won, then so be it. but it was the manner in which they played which left a poor taste in the mouth
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Louth
What clumsy thing?
I'd have him at the city in a heartbeat
He's a bellend. I want him as far away from Cardiff as humanly possible. And that has absolutely nothing to do with his poppy stance.
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Pedro de la Rosa
He's a bellend. I want him as far away from Cardiff as humanly possible. And that has absolutely nothing to do with his poppy stance.
Poppy police alert
You do know he's from Derry yes?
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Re: Defeat better than a draw !
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Originally Posted by
Des Parrot
Walking out of the stadium with a defeat we were all downcast but knew we were out.
With all of the pressure & emotion of the closing minutes, if we had equalised, the stadium would have gone mental, hopes raised and most people not realising we were already knocked out anyway as Croatia had won.
Personally, I'd rather take the 1st option rather than the 2nd, which would have an been horrendous high to low within a couple of minutes.
(Greece had already qualified as their last game was against bottom Gibralter & Slovakia had a better goal difference)
Just saying like!
I said before the game and still think, it would have been better going into the game knowing that only a win by say 2 goals would have been good enough, Cookie went for a draw and it backfired.
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Louth
Poppy police alert
You do know he's from Derry yes?
I don't care about him not wearing a poppy, its his choice. I think he's a prick because he acts like a prick.
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This isn't worth it. In the last 48 hours I've heard nothing but woe is me. Thuggery my ass, its only fans whining.
The shite some of you have written about the Irish is a disgrace. Take the defeat on the chin and move on.
Ffs its now gone to MxLean and the poppy police. By the way, something that's now being used by far right groups.
McLean has balls to do what he has done. His parents had relativeß shot in the back on bloody Sunday.
As I said, he's got balls, something a few of you don't.
I'll drop into the forum in 10 years time, ill catch up on the 'we were robbed' thread.
Are you Wolves in disguise?' ;)
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Originally Posted by
Louth
This isn't worth it. In the last 48 hours I've heard nothing but woe is me. Thuggery my ass, its only fans whining.
The shite some of you have written about the Irish is a disgrace. Take the defeat on the chin and move on.
Ffs its now gone to MxLean and the poppy police. By the way, something that's now being used by far right groups.
McLean has balls to do what he has done. His parents had relativeß shot in the back on bloody Sunday.
As I said, he's got balls, something a few of you don't.
I'll drop into the forum in 10 years time, ill catch up on the 'we were robbed' thread.
Are you Wolves in disguise?' ;)
I don't care about his poppy you dullard.
I do though, think he's a knob:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6S6G5-4Dha0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLsj5r9gzOE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rn1_mKsRnN8
He dives, play acts, whinges constantly, goes round kicking people and uses coward tackles. I'd respect him more if he went in for 50:50s but he doesn't, he's a coward and goes out to hurt people. He's got the opposite of balls, he's spineless.
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Originally Posted by
Louth
This isn't worth it. In the last 48 hours I've heard nothing but woe is me. Thuggery my ass, its only fans whining.
The shite some of you have written about the Irish is a disgrace. Take the defeat on the chin and move on.
Ffs its now gone to MxLean and the poppy police. By the way, something that's now being used by far right groups.
McLean has balls to do what he has done. His parents had relativeß shot in the back on bloody Sunday.
As I said, he's got balls, something a few of you don't.
I'll drop into the forum in 10 years time, ill catch up on the 'we were robbed' thread.
Are you Wolves in disguise?' ;)
bye
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Louth
Poppy police alert
You do know he's from Derry yes?
So how come he doesn't play for N.I?
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Because most of the Republican /Nationalist people wouldn't dream of playing for the North. They support and identify 100% Irish only. No British passport either. Irish people are Irish, unlike ......
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Louth
Because most of the Republican /Nationalist people wouldn't dream of playing for the North. They support and identify 100% Irish only. No British passport either. Irish people are Irish, unlike ......
That ten years just flew by.
Look Pad, your team won. Congratulations. No need for you to be here anymore now though is there?
Enjoy the World Cup.
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Wales-Bales
We would have stopped Ireland progressing though, and they really didn't deserve it, so I was actually hoping for an equaliser while the game was still in progress!
Me too, the last 10 minutes went from "a goal changes it" to the "nuclear option let's knock them out too".
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Re: Defeat better than a draw !
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Originally Posted by
Louth
This isn't worth it. In the last 48 hours I've heard nothing but woe is me. Thuggery my ass, its only fans whining.
The shite some of you have written about the Irish is a disgrace. Take the defeat on the chin and move on.
Ffs its now gone to MxLean and the poppy police. By the way, something that's now being used by far right groups.
McLean has balls to do what he has done. His parents had relativeß shot in the back on bloody Sunday.
As I said, he's got balls, something a few of you don't.
I'll drop into the forum in 10 years time, ill catch up on the 'we were robbed' thread.
Are you Wolves in disguise?' ;)
Shortest flounce ever. Lasted 34 minutes.
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Re: Defeat better than a draw !
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Originally Posted by
Louth
This isn't worth it. In the last 48 hours I've heard nothing but woe is me. Thuggery my ass, its only fans whining.
The shite some of you have written about the Irish is a disgrace. Take the defeat on the chin and move on.
Ffs its now gone to MxLean and the poppy police. By the way, something that's now being used by far right groups.
McLean has balls to do what he has done. His parents had relativeß shot in the back on bloody Sunday.
As I said, he's got balls, something a few of you don't.
I'll drop into the forum in 10 years time, ill catch up on the 'we were robbed' thread.
Are you Wolves in disguise?' ;)
Why are you even here? Are you actually a Cardiff fan?
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Baloo
Shortest flounce ever.
Another cliché. I was answering the question regarding McLean. I never turn down a chance of giving a little Irish history lesson.
I'll accept that a few of you use the other forum also. Me thick? Have you taken a look at those assholes? You call me thick? Someone should ask them 'so why are you pro Brexit?'
'Err umm we want to keep our own money innit'
No more Irish posts please.
BTW did you finally work out whose coat was that jacket? :)
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Re: Defeat better than a draw !
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Louth
Another cliché. I was answering the question regarding McLean. I never turn down a chance of giving a little Irish history lesson.
I'll accept that a few of you use the other forum also. Me thick? Have you taken a look at those assholes? You call me thick? Someone should ask them 'so why are you pro Brexit?'
'Err umm we want to keep our own money innit'
No more Irish posts please.
BTW did you finally work out whose coat was that jacket? :)
Can I suggest if you really want to leave this board for 10 years, you stop lurking and refreshing the page. That way you might just last more than half-an-hour.
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Ireland - a horrible divided nation run by dimwits. Let's hope their thugs get soundly beaten in the play offs.
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Minion
Ireland - a horrible divided nation run by dimwits. Let's hope their thugs get soundly beaten in the play offs.
Whereas one of ours broke one of their legs and Bale shudda got sent off!!, terrible games, terrible tactics, dirty play, all from both sides, time to move on.
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TISS
I don't think any of us thought a goal would have seen us through. we knew we needed to win
Coleman thought a draw was a enough. That's one person atleast
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Nelsonca61
Whereas one of ours broke one of their legs and Bale shudda got sent off!!, terrible games, terrible tactics, dirty play, all from both sides, time to move on.
Nice way to finish this thread!
Hopefully Cardiff's Irish fan(s) can leave it be.
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Blooburd
Coleman thought a draw was a enough. That's one person atleast
He shouldn’t be manager if that’s what he thought. It was always very unlikely Ukraine v Georgia would end 0-0 with both of those teams needing a win.
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Baloo
Can I suggest if you really want to leave this board for 10 years, you stop lurking and refreshing the page. That way you might just last more than half-an-hour.
lm permanently signed in, I never said I wouldn't read the board. If you stop your inane posts directed at me, I wouldn't be replying to the likes of you.
A few posters here have something interesting to say about the club. I suggest you take their lead.
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Re: Defeat better than a draw !
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Louth
lm permanently signed in, I never said I wouldn't read the board. If you stop your inane posts directed at me, I wouldn't be replying to the likes of you.
A few posters here have something interesting to say about the club. I suggest you take their lead.
There's nothing quite so sad as a WUM who just can't stop biting. Suggest you go and practice somewhere else and come back when you've upped your game a bit.
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Dr Lecter
That ten years just flew by.
Look Pad, your team won. Congratulations. No need for you to be here anymore now though is there?
Enjoy the World Cup.
They won't be there.
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Louth
Allen's injury was accidental.
The fact you believe this says all I need to know. The way he got injured (bang on the head on the floor) might have been accidental, but there's absolutely no way that there was no intention to rough Allen up.
3 or 4 Irish players could have been booked in the first half for tackles that were as bad, if not worse, than the booking Allen received. The ironic cheers that greeted the late flurry of Irish yellow cards says everything. There were plenty of examples of Irish players being overly physical away from the eye of the referee, almost like Roy Keane was in his heyday - a dirty fecker who had a way of getting away with things. Maybe not against the laws of the game, but like another poster put it, the manner of the Irish performance leaves a bad taste. It was the only way Ireland could reduce Wales to their poor level. Trying to compare Ireland and Cardiff City shows your level of footballing knowledge.
Hope you don't qualify and I will be cheering on whoever you play. Get over it.
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Eric the Half a Bee
They won't be there.
You certainly won't.
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Originally Posted by
Eric the Half a Bee
The fact you believe this says all I need to know. The way he got injured (bang on the head on the floor) might have been accidental, but there's absolutely no way that there was no intention to rough Allen up.
3 or 4 Irish players could have been booked in the first half for tackles that were as bad, if not worse, than the booking Allen received. The ironic cheers that greeted the late flurry of Irish yellow cards says everything. There were plenty of examples of Irish players being overly physical away from the eye of the referee, almost like Roy Keane was in his heyday - a dirty fecker who had a way of getting away with things. Maybe not against the laws of the game, but like another poster put it, the manner of the Irish performance leaves a bad taste. It was the only way Ireland could reduce Wales to their poor level. Trying to compare Ireland and Cardiff City shows your level of footballing knowledge.
Hope you don't qualify and I will be cheering on whoever you play. Get over it.
Reduced Wales? Hilarious!
Do you remember Phil Dwyer? A legend at the City. He took no prisoners and was a legend for it. Come to think of it, do you remember Don Murray?
Ffs get over it.
The Welsh FA, the media, Coleman and players never whinged about it. Only the fans.
Get over yourself.
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Louth
Reduced Wales? Hilarious!
Do you remember Phil Dwyer? A legend at the City. He took no prisoners and was a legend for it. Come to think of it, do you remember Don Murray?
Ffs get over it.
The Welsh FA, the media, Coleman and players never whinged about it. Only the fans.
Get over yourself.
Do the same Louth mate.