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Originally Posted by BLUETIT
Always great to see one of the old firm get pegged back
If the “Old firm” were in the Championship Celtic would make the play-offs, Rangers bottom half
Rangers manager sacked. :wave:
Celtic would hold their own in the premiership. Tiernan, Brown, Gordon, Dembele, Roberts, Armstrong, Griffiths, Sinclair, + another 1or 2 would walk the Championship. As for Rangers, League 1. They are truly shocking.Quote:
Originally Posted by Llanedeyrnblue
Complain about the SPL all you like, they can only play whose up against them.
60k every home game in the championship. They are a massive club, on a par with Real Wolves.
Not if they had to play tidy teams not park teams in the main
I couldn't give a feck about the old firm , always good to see them lose , Motherwell brought several thousand down to Llanelli a few years back , far more than the mighty Celtic did for a pre season friendly when they told us to expect 5000
Celtic bottom half, Rangers relegated.Quote:
Originally Posted by Llanedeyrnblue
I bet there are lots of comments on the Rangers/Celtic boards about Cardiff .
Lots.
Probably are, they wish they could play in this kind of competitive domestic league.*
* Not really, why would they move from Easyville?
But I love it when Hibernian or hearts or whoever turns them overQuote:
Originally Posted by Jimmy the Jock
It sums up how great the SPL is when 3rd/4th/5th beat them and it's treated like a shock.Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
IndeedQuote:
Originally Posted by ccfc_is_my_life
Up the Celts 🇮🇪🇮🇪😃😃😃
Football is all about money , Scottish football has been left behind compared to the premier league , probably way behind the prize money available in the championship . Nothing I say will change that fact .Quote:
Originally Posted by ccfc_is_my_life
Despite the fact there is no money here we are discussing the merits of a poor Rangers side and Scottish football in general , we even have Sludge joining in a football post rather than banging on about his personal life .
The Welsh league is a football fest comparable to amatuer football anywhere in the third world .
Where are you based now Jimmy ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimmy the Jock
Ah, the old chestnut "What standard would Rangers or Celtic play in the English League".
Both their current teams would be championship at best but lets face it, they both have huge support and generate vast sums of money.
In the unlikely event that they were allowed to play in the English tier system, both their profiles would grow and doubtless their quality and, perhaps, their success.
At the moment, Celtic have players who help them piss the league at a canter but who would lets say just about hold their own or perhaps challenge for play offs.
From a Celtic board point of view, there is currently no reason to strengthen with better players and outlay larger sums of money on fees and wages.
Even if they did manage to attract top players, these would soon be dragged down to the level of their league as their potential would not be challenged often enough.
Celtic pull off a great result in Europe every so often but will never see them hit the heights of 1957 simply because of the lack of depth in their league.
It is not about these clubs splashing the money alone, though it is a very important part, it is about the standard of competition.
Until the likes of Killy, Aberdeen, Hearts, Hibs et al attract top players (highly unlikely) then Celtic and Rangers will always be open to (tongue in cheek) ridicule.
Up the buoys :biggrin:
Scottish football has been left behind because of Celtic and Rangers. Everything done was for their benefit; sod the rest of the clubs. Days of an Aberdeen coming along and doing what they did under Ferguson have gone, unlikely would return for decades - because the Old Firm looked after number one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimmy the Jock
Celtic and Rangers wouldn't ever be in the Championship. Why not? For the simple reason the backlash that would be generated over two teams being parachuted in. Neither would want to start at the absolute bottom of the pyramid and spend years working their way up. Plenty of teams wouldn't want their fans anywhere near them tbh.
The Old Firm killed any competition. The SPL would be more competitive and I dare say interesting as a genuine sporting contest if both Celtic and Rangers failed to exist.
Yeah ,did Scottish football nothing but good relegating Rangers to the 4TH tier .Quote:
Originally Posted by ccfc_is_my_life
Talk about turkeys voting for Xmas .
Turned a two club league into a one club league. Then again, Rangers shouldn't have been scum causing a new team to be created...Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimmy the Jock
Either you want a boring, stagnant league with at most 2 clubs dominating or you want a vibrant league full of competitive matches which drives standards up for all.
Rangers went out of business, they weren't relegated, the new club were a basket of assets bought in a liquidation sale.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimmy the Jock
Chris Burke plays for Kilmarnock now then?
Finally got back to Scotland then.
It’s great we can still chat about it on a CCFC board though .Quote:
Originally Posted by Pilkers
Down the Gower .Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
Your point is caller one ?
Not sure about their squad depth, but Celtic would be lower half of the Premier League in my opinion, Aberdeen would be relegation strugglers in the Championship and I reckon Rangers would be in League One hoping to secure a top six finish.
Can’t really argue with that ,the situation is only going to get worse as the premier league gets richer and richer.Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
It is something I personally can’t change so try not to give it to much worry time.
IN the unlikely event Rangers and Celtic were brought into the English system they would soon start to improve through the additional funds @vailsble to them. Investors would be clamouring to buy into them due to the size of the clubs. It appears that is the way modern football works .
I also accept that both clubs carry more than their fair share of ignorant bigots which is partly the reason other clubs supporters dislike them. The great thing about living down here is the religious aspect is practically non existent.
Was going to ask for some car advice , winter service etcQuote:
Originally Posted by Jimmy the Jock
Someone gets a bit touchy when Scottish league is run down. The Welsh football league is improving; Celtic are improving; can you say the same for the rest of Scottish domestic football? Rangers, according to pundits, misstepped in hiring the coach who has just gone and didn't improve under him so your second biggest club has been on pause for what, 18 months?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimmy the Jock
Celtic would easily be upper midtable in the premier league but rangers are championship stuff.
Does anyone talk about the old firm in mainland Europe? Possibly but because of the hype built on a fierce rivalry (including the religious stuff) rather than quality of football.