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Gary Speed was named n court today as one of four men to have taken their lives and that were also coached by Barry Benrnel.
Obviously we will never know why Gary took his life but Barry Bennel is a Kent of the highest order.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...led-themselves
Seems highly speculative to me
Barry Bennell is indeed a kent of the highest order.
Snidely insinuating Speed was abused by him however is utterly disgusting.
Just to be clear if the thread reads like an insinuation then that's absolutely not the intent 100%
No, I should have been more clear - apologies if you thought I was complaining about you nd your post.Quote:
Originally Posted by joecity
Speed's name being brought into the trial was an absolute disgrace as there's been no complaint or evidence he was abused. It's a snide speculative insinuation to try to get bigger sentence by putting a high profile suicide into the mix.
Yeah, as above - not your post, the witness in the trial basically speculating about GaryQuote:
Originally Posted by joecity
Completely agree with you. I would have thought the weight and number of complainants giving evidence against Bennell would be enough to bury the Kent anyway. I did consider not posting it to behonest due to the points you make.Quote:
Originally Posted by ccfc_is_my_life
If it leads to a bigger sentence then there’s nothing snide about it you nonce defending piece of shitQuote:
Originally Posted by ccfc_is_my_life
Sounds like the coppers need to get hold of your pc you wrong un
How is it nonce defending, fool?Quote:
Originally Posted by Henry Hill
How the **** would you like to be a family member of Speed with that crap being publicised, eh?
What a pathetic post. He has not defended the individual in question. Grow up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Henry Hill
Not sure who is the biggest wind up on here - you or Cedric (Helen).Quote:
Originally Posted by Henry Hill
What was the Speed story that was due to emerge in the press when
he killed himself ?
Did that ever come out at the Inquest as a possible reason for his suicide ?
How do you know they weren’t approached for their permission to use his name?Quote:
Originally Posted by ccfc_is_my_life
I’m sure if it leads to that piece of shit being found guilty and a longer sentence then it’s a small price to pay.
Don't be silly. You're happy for unsubstantiated allegations to be thrown around to increase what will almost certainly be a lengthy sentence...Quote:
Originally Posted by Henry Hill
Your apology is accepted by the way.
"Gary Speed was named in court today as one of four men to have taken their lives and that were also coached by Barry Benrnel".Quote:
Originally Posted by tomm
Sound like a statement of fact to me.
Indeed - it's the insuinuation he killed himself therefore must also have been abused bit that's disgusting.Quote:
Originally Posted by NYCBlue
Certainly be a lengthy sentence? I doubt it.Quote:
Originally Posted by ccfc_is_my_life
The witness's quotes: “Four people from teams I have played with, with Bennell, have taken their own lives,” he said. “Whether they have taken their lives due to Barry solely I don’t know but all I know is how it’s had an impact on me and how it could impact on other people. When people are breaking down on the phone, when people are on the verge of suicide, when you hear of people who have taken their own lives.”Quote:
Originally Posted by NYCBlue
He admits himself he's speculating.
it had crossed my mind especially when it was mentioned way back he like a certain look , which did match Gary's , dreadful , perhaps were all over thinking , where is middle eastern strong laws when you need them .Quote:
Originally Posted by joecity
We will never really know why Speed committed suicide. So sad that someone so admired by so many ended up in such a dark place.
I understand that. However, the sentence "Gary Speed was named in court today as one of four men to have taken their lives and that were also coached by Barry Benrnel". is a statement of fact.Quote:
Originally Posted by tomm
True.Quote:
Originally Posted by NYCBlue
But I'm talking about the witness, and you're talking about the sentence. :thumbup:
Exactly. I hope Bunnell gets the sentence his proven crimes warrant.Quote:
Originally Posted by ccfc_is_my_life
I wonder why Speed was mentioned during the trial?Quote:
Originally Posted by ccfc_is_my_life
Why's it snide when all they’ve said is speed is one of the 4 people to have killed them selves after being trained by him? You’re making it sound like someone has made an allegation against speed when all that’s been stated is a fact.Quote:
Originally Posted by ccfc_is_my_life
No he's not. There's no allegations against Speed at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Croesy Blue
Let's word things properly. Speed wasn't one of 4 people to have killed themselves after being trained by him as you state. He was one of 4 people to have killed themselves who also happened to have been trained at some point by Barry Bennell. Unless there is some proven link between the two (Speed's suicide / being trained by Barry Bennell), then I agree with others that it is crass, snide etc.
Our newest wind up merchant, "Henry Hill", also seems to want to falsify evidence if it leads to a longer sentence. I'm sure if he was ever in trouble with the law and someone made up a load of nonsense in a trial against him, he'd be happy if it led to him getting a longer stretch.
Read my post again you soppy tart all I’ve said is they’ve stated a fact during the trail. I’m not saying something happened or didn’t im just saying it isn’t a slight on speed either way.