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Bristol - has the derby atmosphere fizzled out
21000 on the game and a reasonably good but not really hostile atmosphere last weekend.
Hate to say it but Swansea will only ever be our real rivals for some time to come.
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Re: Bristol - has the derby atmosphere fizzled out
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Originally Posted by
WJ99mobile
21000 on the game and a reasonably good but not really hostile atmosphere last weekend.
Hate to say it but Swansea will only ever be our real rivals for some time to come.
I remember the playoff semi against them in 2003 and the "Fight, fight, wherever you may be" chant was deafening. Not any more. Add to the fact that all bar one of our home attendances against them have been roughly the same as the average attendance of the season, and we might as well face up to the fact that Bristol City are no longer the rivals they once were. Rivals, yes, but it's lost its edge completely.
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Re: Bristol - has the derby atmosphere fizzled out
The atmosphere at the stadium is poor. I can't quite get the Canton stand, they stand up to watch the game, which indicates to me a bit of a nod back to the old days of terracing, it's where the younger fans go, yet they don't seem to generate a great deal of noise. The spontaneity has gone out of watching football, back in the day, there would have been a sizeable walk up for a game against Bristol City, it would have been considered an occasion for a fair few thousand fans, they would be able to pay on the day and stand with their mates, those days are gone, and because of the rising costs and the contrived order of being a football fan, the atmosphere has suffered. It sometimes feels like i'm watching a concert, not a football match. We used to have some great songs as well, that 'when I was young' song sounds like a funeral march, it's ****ing awful.
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Whilst I would not disagree completely with points made, one has to remember it was 12 o'clock on a Sunday.
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Re: Bristol - has the derby atmosphere fizzled out
It's hard for the youngsters to sing, what with those "punch-me" scarfs stuck in their mouths. :hehe:
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Re: Bristol - has the derby atmosphere fizzled out
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Originally Posted by
Tuerto
The atmosphere at the stadium is poor. I can't quite get the Canton stand, they stand up to watch the game, which indicates to me a bit of a nod back to the old days of terracing, it's where the younger fans go, yet they don't seem to generate a great deal of noise. The spontaneity has gone out of watching football, back in the day, there would have been a sizeable walk up for a game against Bristol City, it would have been considered an occasion for a fair few thousand fans, they would be able to pay on the day and stand with their mates, those days are gone, and because of the rising costs and the contrived order of being a football fan, the atmosphere has suffered. It sometimes feels like i'm watching a concert, not a football match. We used to have some great songs as well, that 'when I was young' song sounds like a funeral march, it's ****ing awful.
The atmosphere was better when there was a chance that there was gonna be a war outside the ground. Sad maybe but true.
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Re: Bristol - has the derby atmosphere fizzled out
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Originally Posted by
Tuerto
The atmosphere at the stadium is poor. I can't quite get the Canton stand, they stand up to watch the game, which indicates to me a bit of a nod back to the old days of terracing, it's where the younger fans go, yet they don't seem to generate a great deal of noise. The spontaneity has gone out of watching football, back in the day, there would have been a sizeable walk up for a game against Bristol City, it would have been considered an occasion for a fair few thousand fans, they would be able to pay on the day and stand with their mates, those days are gone, and because of the rising costs and the contrived order of being a football fan, the atmosphere has suffered. It sometimes feels like i'm watching a concert, not a football match. We used to have some great songs as well, that 'when I was young' song sounds like a funeral march, it's ****ing awful.
Where do you sit in the ground? The only noise generated is from the Canton
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Re: Bristol - has the derby atmosphere fizzled out
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thehumblegringo
The atmosphere was better when there was a chance that there was gonna be a war outside the ground. Sad maybe but true.
Nail and head.
People would go in A Block in the Grandstand or in the Grange end to be as close to away fans as possible.
Without that.. we simply won't get chants all game.
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There's seems to be a deliberate attempt by some on here to play down the Bristol City rivalry. Well, I don't care if I'm in a minority of one on this, my mood has been brightened considerably this week because we beat the football team I despise more than any other om Sunday - didn't think that atmosphere was bad either. In saying that, whether they bring 1,500 or 4,000, the wurzels never make much noise - their City rivals put them to shame nine years ago when we played them in the League Cup.
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Re: Bristol - has the derby atmosphere fizzled out
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dembethewarrior
Nail and head.
People would go in A Block in the Grandstand or in the Grange end to be as close to away fans as possible.
Without that.. we simply won't get chants all game.
There are some who still want to be as close to the away fans as possible - never hear any noise from them though.
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Re: Bristol - has the derby atmosphere fizzled out
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the other bob wilson
There's seems to be a deliberate attempt by some on here to play down the Bristol City rivalry. Well, I don't care if I'm in a minority of one on this, my mood has been brightened considerably this week because we beat the football team I despise more than any other om Sunday - didn't think that atmosphere was bad either. In saying that, whether they bring 1,500 or 4,000, the wurzels never make much noise - their City rivals put them to shame nine years ago when we played them in the League Cup.
It always amuses me when fans talks of despising other clubs. The vast majority of fans supporting any clubs cannot be characterised by the idiots and we would all be Bristol City (or perhaps Bristol Rivers fans) if we were born in a bed a little further east. And as for 'We hate the West Country' it's funny how so many of you come down to this beautiful part of the world on holiday. All juvenile stuff, of course.
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Re: Bristol - has the derby atmosphere fizzled out
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thehumblegringo
The atmosphere was better when there was a chance that there was gonna be a war outside the ground. Sad maybe but true.
I recall the last time we played the jacks at ninian, also an early Sunday k o, terrible atmosphere. You just can’t get it going so early. Put it in constraint to night games or when we beat them twice at ccs, no comparison.
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Re: Bristol - has the derby atmosphere fizzled out
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Taunton Blue Genie
It always amuses me when fans talks of despising other clubs. The vast majority of fans supporting any clubs cannot be characterised by the idiots and we would all be Bristol City (or perhaps Bristol Rivers fans) if we were born in a bed a little further east. And as for 'We hate the West Country' it's funny how so many of you come down to this beautiful part of the world on holiday. All juvenile stuff, of course.
People go on holiday to bedminster!
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Taunton Blue Genie
It always amuses me when fans talks of despising other clubs. The vast majority of fans supporting any clubs cannot be characterised by the idiots and we would all be Bristol City (or perhaps Bristol Rivers fans) if we were born in a bed a little further east. And as for 'We hate the West Country' it's funny how so many of you come down to this beautiful part of the world on holiday. All juvenile stuff, of course.
Maybe, but in my case, opinions formed in my teenage years still apply - I really don't like that club and yet I've a soft spot for Bristol Rovers who strike me as being a "proper" football club in the best meaning of that term.
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Re: Bristol - has the derby atmosphere fizzled out
Footballs finished as far as atmospheres go. All seater stadiums and mobile phones put paid to that. Now instead of giving a rival player dogs abuse whenever they get near, too many sitting down taking pics on their phones.
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Re: Bristol - has the derby atmosphere fizzled out
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William Treseder
Footballs finished as far as atmospheres go. All seater stadiums and mobile phones put paid to that. Now instead of giving a rival player dogs abuse whenever they get near, too many sitting down taking pics on their phones.
They should play matches in the concourses at half time. For some reason fans sing dance and act boisterous there, before returning to their seats and sitting with fingers on lips.
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Re: Bristol - has the derby atmosphere fizzled out
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the other bob wilson
Maybe, but in my case, opinions formed in my teenage years still apply - I really don't like that club and yet I've a soft spot for Bristol Rovers who strike me as being a "proper" football club in the best meaning of that term.
I can remember going to the old Eastville ground for a night game, on a steam train.
I must have been about 8 or 9. :thumbup:
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Re: Bristol - has the derby atmosphere fizzled out
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the other bob wilson
Maybe, but in my case, opinions formed in my teenage years still apply - I really don't like that club and yet I've a soft spot for Bristol Rovers who strike me as being a "proper" football club in the best meaning of that term.
I've always hated rovers as well. I've heard a few people lately say the same thing as you, but never when we played them regularly.
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Re: Bristol - has the derby atmosphere fizzled out
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the other bob wilson
There's seems to be a deliberate attempt by some on here to play down the Bristol City rivalry. Well, I don't care if I'm in a minority of one on this, my mood has been brightened considerably this week because we beat the football team I despise more than any other om Sunday - didn't think that atmosphere was bad either. In saying that, whether they bring 1,500 or 4,000, the wurzels never make much noise - their City rivals put them to shame nine years ago when we played them in the League Cup.
Bang on for me too. I get huge pleasure from their displeasure and so I've been spoilt rotten for well over a decade in that regard
:hehe:
I obviously enjoy beating Swansea if we play them, but they don't register for me otherwise :shrug:
I'm in my early 40s, so this is not an old timer type thing either where some fans would watch City one week, Swansea the next / cheer their scores at HT etc
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ken smith
They should play matches in the concourses at half time. For some reason fans sing dance and act boisterous there, before returning to their seats and sitting with fingers on lips.
Singing all game in the family stand is a non starter. Even in the canton if a single person starts off a chant it dies down rather quickly.. you need a good group together.
My main purpose of turning up is to have eyes on the pitch.
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Their fans were miles better than ours lets be honest
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Re: Bristol - has the derby atmosphere fizzled out
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Tuerto
The atmosphere at the stadium is poor. I can't quite get the Canton stand, they stand up to watch the game, which indicates to me a bit of a nod back to the old days of terracing, it's where the younger fans go, yet they don't seem to generate a great deal of noise.
The stadium isn't the problem, look at the Wales games. The atmosphere can be electric. It's us.
On the topic of beating the Wurzels, I'm still very, very happy about it. I bloody hate them.
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Re: Bristol - has the derby atmosphere fizzled out
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BuyingManCityTickets
Their fans were miles better than ours lets be honest
You try too hard.
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Re: Bristol - has the derby atmosphere fizzled out
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dembethewarrior
You try too hard.
Anyone who says otherwise was sitting in the canton stand and not getting a clear representation.
They sang more and were louder. I was sitting centrally, I am not lying. It was clear as day as well
The atmosphere was overall poor I think because it was arctic and the kick off time. Never been colder in fact
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Re: Bristol - has the derby atmosphere fizzled out
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BuyingManCityTickets
Anyone who says otherwise was sitting in the canton stand and not getting a clear representation.
They sang more and were louder. I was sitting centrally, I am not lying. It was clear as day as well
The atmosphere was overall poor I think because it was arctic and the kick off time. Never been colder in fact
They hardly sang, we hardly sang. Put your rod away and stop fishing.
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Re: Bristol - has the derby atmosphere fizzled out
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Pedro de la Rosa
They hardly sang, we hardly sang. Put your rod away and stop fishing.
Oh really on a thread about the atmosphere I am fishing.
I dont give a ****, goodbye
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ken smith
I've always hated rovers as well. I've heard a few people lately say the same thing as you, but never when we played them regularly.
I can only speak for myself, but there's always a huge difference between playing City and Rovers for me and I say that as someone who had a fraught time of it getting into Eastville to spend ninety minutes dodging the mixture of concrete, stones and coins that were being thrown at us by Rovers fans at the match where Jeff Hemmerman suffered his career ending injury in 1983.
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The Canton Stand do make a noise and try to generate an atmosphere.
It just doesnt spread around the ground. The Ninian is completely dead.No section there make any noise whatsoever including those by the away fans.
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Re: Bristol - has the derby atmosphere fizzled out
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BuyingManCityTickets
Anyone who says otherwise was sitting in the canton stand and not getting a clear representation.
They sang more and were louder. I was sitting centrally, I am not lying. It was clear as day as well
The atmosphere was overall poor I think because it was arctic and the kick off time. Never been colder in fact
Sat in the family stand.
They sang the odd song.
Canton sang the odd song.
You are crap at fishing.
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The atmosphere at the last two games have been great, its bit difficult balancing a midday, sober day of rest, reduced and necessary alcohol consumption , and the love of god .
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Re: Bristol - has the derby atmosphere fizzled out
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ken smith
I've always hated rovers as well. I've heard a few people lately say the same thing as you, but never when we played them regularly.
Some people don't sing because they are busy stuffing their faces
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Re: Bristol - has the derby atmosphere fizzled out
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TISS
Some people don't sing because they are busy stuffing their faces
Or leaving their seats 16 times a game
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Re: Bristol - has the derby atmosphere fizzled out
It would help if the Ninian actually generated some noise...
It was 12, on a Sunday, in freezing cold weather. The atmosphere was decent considering that, and anyone who thinks there isn't a derby or its "dead" have pretty short memories, last season's game against Bristol City had a great atmosphere
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Re: Bristol - has the derby atmosphere fizzled out
I think Bristol City and Cardiff City have a lot in common. They both seem to belong in the Championship and both reside in cities that have a maritime history and have plenty to offer the visitor.
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Re: Bristol - has the derby atmosphere fizzled out
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Taunton Blue Genie
I think Bristol City and Cardiff City have a lot in common. They both seem to belong in the Championship and both reside in cities that have a maritime history and have plenty to offer the visitor.
And both built on the back of things that are black.
With us it was coal, with them it was slaves!
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Re: Bristol - has the derby atmosphere fizzled out
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ken smith
And both built on the back of things that are black.
With us it was coal, with them it was slaves!
:hehe:
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Re: Bristol - has the derby atmosphere fizzled out
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the other bob wilson
There's seems to be a deliberate attempt by some on here to play down the Bristol City rivalry. Well, I don't care if I'm in a minority of one on this, my mood has been brightened considerably this week because we beat the football team I despise more than any other om Sunday - didn't think that atmosphere was bad either. In saying that, whether they bring 1,500 or 4,000, the wurzels never make much noise - their City rivals put them to shame nine years ago when we played them in the League Cup.
It's definitely an age thing. The older you are, the more likely that you'll see Bristol City as our biggest rivals and nothing will shift that. I reckon that, for newer fans, Swansea are going to be our main rivals rather than the Wurzels, which isn't going to do anything to intensify the rivalry between us and Bristol City. It will always be a rivalry, but not as intense as the one with the Jacks.
Sorry if you think I'm deliberately playing down the rivalry between us and Bristol City, I'm not. I'm looking at it objectively.
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Re: Bristol - has the derby atmosphere fizzled out
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Eric the Half a Bee
It's definitely an age thing. The older you are, the more likely that you'll see Bristol City as our biggest rivals and nothing will shift that. I reckon that, for newer fans, Swansea are going to be our main rivals rather than the Wurzels, which isn't going to do anything to intensify the rivalry between us and Bristol City. It will always be a rivalry, but not as intense as the one with the Jacks.
Sorry if you think I'm deliberately playing down the rivalry between us and Bristol City, I'm not. I'm looking at it objectively.
I started supporting Cardiff is 89 and it's definitely the Jack's for me
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Re: Bristol - has the derby atmosphere fizzled out
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thehumblegringo
I started supporting Cardiff is 89 and it's definitely the Jack's for me
I started supporting City in about 1958/1959, our fiends (yes:hehe:), down the road were Abertawe Town then and they are still Abertawe Townnow.
As for Shitfull Shitty, it needs to be demolished.
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Re: Bristol - has the derby atmosphere fizzled out
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Eric the Half a Bee
It's definitely an age thing. The older you are, the more likely that you'll see Bristol City as our biggest rivals and nothing will shift that. I reckon that, for newer fans, Swansea are going to be our main rivals rather than the Wurzels, which isn't going to do anything to intensify the rivalry between us and Bristol City. It will always be a rivalry, but not as intense as the one with the Jacks.
Sorry if you think I'm deliberately playing down the rivalry between us and Bristol City, I'm not. I'm looking at it objectively.
It is an age thing, but I'm not sure City fans older than me will feel I do because, at 62, I think I represent the upper age limit of the grouping who share my opinion about the wurzels and the jacks when it comes to rivalry.
I saw my first City game in October 1963. Swansea weren't relegated until 64/65, so they played down here in the league a couple of times after my first visit to Ninian Park, but, for whatever reason, I did not go to either match. Therefore, I didn't get to see us play the jacks in a league game for almost seventeen years after my first City game - Swansea were a side we only ever played, and usually beat, in the Welsh Cup while I was growing up. On the other hand, I make it that I had watched us play the wurzels in the league twelve times before I saw my first Swansea league derby. I daresay if I was ten years older or twenty years younger I would have Swansea down as our main rivals like most others - I'm a product of my time though and when you also consider that I went thirty one years without seeing us beat them in any contest that mattered, I always get at least as much satisfaction out of a win over the wurzels as I do from one over the jacks.