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Morrissey in Manchester
Just booked my ticket
Who's going
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Re: Morrissey in Manchester
Lifts available if needed
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Baker
Lifts available if needed
No he's a washed up old tramp who should have slung his hook years ago
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Lol each to their own sludge.
In my opinion he's far from washed up
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SLUDGE FACTORY
No he's a washed up old tramp who should have slung his hook years ago
Disagree
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Re: Morrissey in Manchester
I went to see him in Brighton recently, I was a bit disappointed he played a lot of his new stuff, and most of the crowd just stood still, he could of played more of his hits
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
No he's a washed up old tramp who should have slung his hook years ago
Agreed.
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Originally Posted by
Fulham traveller
I went to see him in Brighton recently, I was a bit disappointed he played a lot of his new stuff, and most of the crowd just stood still, he could of played more of his hits
I had tickets for that gig, couldn't go as we were battered by the snow
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I went to see him in London and it was amazing. You are right in saying he played most of this new album songs. Maybe he done that because his new album is absolutely brilliant.
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The man is a legend. There is no point trying to convince those who refuse to see it
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Originally Posted by
El Gwapo
The man is a legend. There is no point trying to convince those who refuse to see it
Quite right.
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Originally Posted by
El Gwapo
The man is a legend. There is no point trying to convince those who refuse to see it
Yeah. Whenever someone says Johnny Marr was the brains (as amazing of a guitarist as he is) you can't hide the fact that Morrissey has made 11 unbelievably superb albums without him.
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Baker
Yeah. Whenever someone says Johnny Marr was the brains (as amazing of a guitarist as he is) you can't hide the fact that Morrissey has made 11 unbelievably superb albums without him.
Constantly delivers. I can't say I enjoy Johnny Marr's solo stuff as much as Morrissey's, I don't think his voice is particularly good.
Have you seen England Is Mine?
Have to say I enjoyed every minute of it.
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he's a brexit loving fan of Nigel Farage who once called the Chinese a subspecies and allegedly defended Kevin Spacey for fiddling with a 14 year old boy. You can keep him.
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delmbox
he's a brexit loving fan of Nigel Farage who once called the Chinese a subspecies and allegedly defended Kevin Spacey for fiddling with a 14 year old boy. You can keep him.
52% of the nation are brexit lovers aren't they?
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delmbox
he's a brexit loving fan of Nigel Farage who once called the Chinese a subspecies and allegedly defended Kevin Spacey for fiddling with a 14 year old boy. You can keep him.
You obv didnt listen to the whole interview and believe the way it was portrayed in the press. Fair enough, as I said I wont try to convince others.
BBS - England is Mine was ok but I couldnt get fully engaged with it for some reason
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He can't sing and has an over inflated idea of his own importance.
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Going to see Johnny Marr on Thursday.
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NYCBlue
Going to see Johnny Marr on Thursday.
Enjoy!
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Originally Posted by
delmbox
he's a brexit loving fan of Nigel Farage who once called the Chinese a subspecies and allegedly defended Kevin Spacey for fiddling with a 14 year old boy. You can keep him.
Only gets vocal when he's on tour and an album is due out. Always wondered about that flower waving stuff, could have easily been flags. Oooh scary.
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El Gwapo
You obv didnt listen to the whole interview and believe the way it was portrayed in the press. Fair enough, as I said I wont try to convince others.
BBS - England is Mine was ok but I couldnt get fully engaged with it for some reason
The Spacey one? Yeah that seemed potentially dubious but I decided to put it in because it made my post better. I had the decency to put "allegedly" in though, which I'm sure we'll all agree is hugely impressive on my part
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The Bob Banker Spanker
52% of the nation are brexit lovers aren't they?
Yeah but.....
actually shall we not do this? :hehe:
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England is Mine was a great watch BBS
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Baker
Yeah. Whenever someone says Johnny Marr was the brains (as amazing of a guitarist as he is) you can't hide the fact that Morrissey has made 11 unbelievably superb albums without him.
Can't hide the fact he's a bigoted tw*t either :shrug:
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the new johny marr single is a decent toon
Hi hello ...........:music:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vT_IlY0A4_0
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Bloated old whale , music's moved on
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think we all get a bit bloated and yes music has moved on sludge but the fact he' as relevant than ever before in these heady days of censorship and freedom of speech is a dying art these days . to me him and weller the only last 2 proper pop stars left
keep speaking your mind morrissey the world is listening whether it be animal cruelty , the monarchy , literature , arts , music and politics etc . if you don't then who will ???
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SLUDGE FACTORY
Bloated old whale , music's moved on
Rubbish..look at the reaction!
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SLUDGE FACTORY
Bloated old whale , music's moved on
Sold out tours and album done well commercially. He'll never get a number one again due to the music industry being dreadful now, but music definitely hasn't left him behind. He's just as relevant now as he was in the 90s
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The Bob Banker Spanker
Disagree
disagree
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SLUDGE FACTORY
No he's a washed up old tramp who should have slung his hook years ago
^^^^ THIS ^^^^
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free speech in this country my arse
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdm2RkWUEfk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o12HfoiQJzM
from the last of the famous international playboys ...............
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MOZZER2
No, there isn't absolute free speech in this country but this is more about free speech with consequences for his relationship with fans or potential fans.
I never much liked Morrissey - I always thought his music was pretentious drivel. His political comments in recent years have reinforced that dislike in me.
I didn't watch all the YouTube clips you attached, but the claim that no one (BBC or other) has ever previously asked if we can separate the art from the artist is rubbish. That question has been asked for centuries.
I don't think it's a strange or unfair question at all. Very often the art reflects the personality and views of the artist, but even if it doesn't it is natural that we will be attracted to and enjoy the work of people who share our values and opinions. I always look out for and identify with Welsh bands and novelists.
I can appreciate some of the abilities and skill of artists I don't like - but I can never forget if they use their platform to promote ideas or political causes I hate. Joan Armatrading lost me as a fan when she started to praise Thatcher, Her music didn't change, but the way I heard it did.
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So just because you disagree with someone's political opinions you dislike them? That's a bit small-minded imo.
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Baker
So just because you disagree with someone's political opinions you dislike them? That's a bit small-minded imo.
Why small minded? I respond to the whole person. I don't see the virtue in compartmentalising.
As I said above I can appreciate the ability and skill of people I don't like but in most cases I won't be buying a ticket to watch them perform. Hitler could have been the greatest water-colourist in history but I wouldn't be a fan even if I acknowledged the skill.
However, in the case of Morrissey it is easy. Don't like the man, don't like the music.