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Nigel Owen eggers ref demands football
Bring in a 15-minute sin-bin and citing process following Real Madrid's 3-1 Champions League win over Liverpool in Kiev on Saturday night.
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/...l-new-14712554
Get stuffed Nige :thumbup:
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Only way he stays relevant is whinging about football
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Auntie Andy
Yep. Feck off back to your egg chasing Nige!
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You come on here to have your opinion but nige can't have his?
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jamieccfc
You come on here to have your opinion but nige can't have his?
:thumbup:
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I think there needs to be a yellow card + sin bin for cynical fouls that break up attacking play. Nothing more frustrating than the commentator saying "he's taken one for the team' or 'that was a good foul', by the end of the game everyone in the back four has a yellow as any chance of an attack where the defence is outnumbered is wrecked by what amounts to a professional foul.
Ruins the spectacle for the neutral completely.
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The problem with play acting is that the referee had to make a judgment on whether the victim is making a foul or being fouled. I have a lot of sympathy for football refs because of this - people often mention the things a ref gets wrong, and fail to mention when a player has tried to fool a ref.
Owen doesn't realise that retrospective action is now taken against PL players found to be diving. Owen also doesn't appreciate that sin bins won't work in football because football isn't rugby (thank feck). I'm not really sure he watches football for any other reason than to say how marvellously correct rugby union is.
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Eric Cartman
I think there needs to be a yellow card + sin bin for cynical fouls that break up attacking play. Nothing more frustrating than the commentator saying "he's taken one for the team' or 'that was a good foul', by the end of the game everyone in the back four has a yellow as any chance of an attack where the defence is outnumbered is wrecked by what amounts to a professional foul.
Ruins the spectacle for the neutral completely.
Did you say that when Gyepes made "that" rugby tackle?
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Badly Ironed Shirt
The problem with play acting is that the referee had to make a judgment on whether the victim is making a foul or being fouled. I have a lot of sympathy for football refs because of this - people often mention the things a ref gets wrong, and fail to mention when a player has tried to fool a ref.
Owen doesn't realise that retrospective action is now taken against PL players found to be diving. Owen also doesn't appreciate that sin bins won't work in football because football isn't rugby (thank feck). I'm not really sure he watches football for any other reason than to say how marvellously correct rugby union is.
Indeed, no play acting in egg or indeed playing of the ref.
Owens is a blithering idiot more concerned with being the center of attention than anything else.
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Listened to an egg chucker on talksport saying about the attack on the amateur referee last week would never ever happen in rugger.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.w...g-14685158.amp
He obviously had not seen this incident.
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ccfc_is_my_life
Did you say that when Gyepes made "that" rugby tackle?
Obviously not
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Badly Ironed Shirt
The problem with play acting is that the referee had to make a judgment on whether the victim is making a foul or being fouled. I have a lot of sympathy for football refs because of this - people often mention the things a ref gets wrong, and fail to mention when a player has tried to fool a ref.
Owen doesn't realise that retrospective action is now taken against PL players found to be diving. Owen also doesn't appreciate that sin bins won't work in football because football isn't rugby (thank feck). I'm not really sure he watches football for any other reason than to say how marvellously correct rugby union is.
Where did he say how marvellously correct rugby union is?
What use is retrospective action if you lose a playoff final or a champions league final because somebody dived?
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Auntie Andy
Other than to stir shite why do you say “demands”
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fred keenor
That is nothing like the incident in the football game. I don't understand people's problem with rugby and why there always seems to be a need to compare
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BLUEAWAY
Other than to stir shite why do you say “demands”
Because I’m quoting the article :facepalm:
“Nigel Owens is demanding football bring in a 15-minute sin-bin and citing process following Real Madrid's 3-1 Champions League win over Liverpool in Kiev on Saturday night”.
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Auntie Andy
Because I’m quoting the article :facepalm:
“Nigel Owens is demanding football bring in a 15-minute sin-bin and citing process following Real Madrid's 3-1 Champions League win over Liverpool in Kiev on Saturday night”.
I read his tweet this morning and nowhere does he demand anything, he actually suggests players get punished for their shameful behaviour to eradicate it
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Eric Cartman
Where did he say how marvellously correct rugby union is?
What use is retrospective action if you lose a playoff final or a champions league final because somebody dived?
It is implied every time a rugby player talks about football. For some reason rugby professionals keep comparing their sport with football. It's really quite strange, because they rarely compare Union with League (for example), or Union with Ice Hockey, or Union with basketball - you get the picture.
Retrospective action is the best available course to try to eliminate cheating in football - my main issue is that it cannot be extended to all levels of the game. The game is also too fluid to stop every so often to go to a video ref. We've already seen it in action, and it is shit. I wonder how infallible Owen would be without a video ref to help him out? I've seen the clips of how great a referee he is, and quite often he has to go to the third eye.
What Owen is suggesting will add more pressure onto referees, not take it away. Remember, the same laws apply in football whether it is Liverpool v Real in a European Cup final, or Grange Albion against Ely Rangers in a pre-season friendly. Whilst a Premier League referee will have the benefit of some video footage, I'm not so sure that a Championship referee will, and I'm absolutely certain that a League 1 or League 2 referee will not. If Owen's suggestion (he talks from a viewpoint of having little interest in "soccer") was taken up, referees at lower levels of football would have far too much pressure, and far too much power to influence a game.
One thing I would like to see (along with retrospective action against cheaters) - is that the manager gets a 1-game touchline ban if 2 of his players are found guilty of diving in the same season. If a third is found guilty, then it's a 2 game ban and so on.
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Badly Ironed Shirt
It is implied every time a rugby player talks about football. For some reason rugby professionals keep comparing their sport with football. It's really quite strange, because they rarely compare Union with League (for example), or Union with Ice Hockey, or Union with basketball - you get the picture.
Retrospective action is the best available course to try to eliminate cheating in football - my main issue is that it cannot be extended to all levels of the game. The game is also too fluid to stop every so often to go to a video ref. We've already seen it in action, and it is shit. I wonder how infallible Owen would be without a video ref to help him out? I've seen the clips of how great a referee he is, and quite often he has to go to the third eye.
What Owen is suggesting will add more pressure onto referees, not take it away. Remember, the same laws apply in football whether it is Liverpool v Real in a European Cup final, or Grange Albion against Ely Rangers in a pre-season friendly. Whilst a Premier League referee will have the benefit of some video footage, I'm not so sure that a Championship referee will, and I'm absolutely certain that a League 1 or League 2 referee will not. If Owen's suggestion (he talks from a viewpoint of having little interest in "soccer") was taken up, referees at lower levels of football would have far too much pressure, and far too much power to influence a game.
One thing I would like to see (along with retrospective action against cheaters) - is that the manager gets a 1-game touchline ban if 2 of his players are found guilty of diving in the same season. If a third is found guilty, then it's a 2 game ban and so on.
What a load of nonsense Owens is one of the best rugby union refs in the world
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jamieccfc
What a load of nonsense Owens is one of the best rugby union refs in the world
He may well be, that doesn't make him right on this football subject though.
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Having a sin bin in football is a really good idea. It works well in rugby. If it reduces some of the nonsense we see in a football pitch then why not?
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Pearcey3
Having a sin bin in football is a really good idea. It works well in rugby. If it reduces some of the nonsense we see in a football pitch then why not?
Because it adds more pressure on the referees. Because it slows the game. Because it gives referees too much influence on a game.
Because it works in rugby, it doesn't mean it has to work in all sports. Does it?
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Auntie Andy
I just wish the egger would keep his nose out of football. He has no interest in the game, just looking to publicise his latest book.
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Badly Ironed Shirt
Because it adds more pressure on the referees. Because it slows the game. Because it gives referees too much influence on a game.
Because it works in rugby, it doesn't mean it has to work in all sports. Does it?
No. It cuts the shit out which is ruining the 'beautiful game'
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jeremy corbyn
I just wish the egger would keep his nose out of football. He has no interest in the game, just looking to publicise his latest book.
Have you got other interests besides football? If so keep your nose out from now on!
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Badly Ironed Shirt
Because it adds more pressure on the referees. Because it slows the game. Because it gives referees too much influence on a game.
Because it works in rugby, it doesn't mean it has to work in all sports. Does it?
They may not work, imo a game or 2 ban like with diving would hopefully cut it out
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RygeTheRam
No. It cuts the shit out which is ruining the 'beautiful game'
Based on?
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jamieccfc
They may not work, imo a game or 2 ban like with diving would hopefully cut it out
That's what has to happen. Ten minutes off the pitch will also, in my opinion, lead to teams closing shop for 10 minutes and time wasting. Also remember, in football the clock doesn't stop and time is added on at the end of the half.
Sheff U v Derby - Derby player sent to sin bin. Suddenly, player goes down with cramp. Refuses medical attention. Goalkeeper takes ages taking a goal kick. Football is a brilliant sport, not sure why it needs to emulate other sports. In fact, it only seems to be people from other sports that are advocating its introduction.
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Auntie Andy
Because I’m quoting the article :facepalm:
“Nigel Owens is demanding football bring in a 15-minute sin-bin and citing process following Real Madrid's 3-1 Champions League win over Liverpool in Kiev on Saturday night”.
Maybe you should have read what he said rather than repeat what somebody else said.
If they said you were a twat would that mean they are right?
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He's probably one of the best refs in the world ......the world's best if you listen to the inbred incestuous Welsh media
And he makes some very good points
But he is just playing to the wendyball bigots , we don't need new rules we need refs willing to send people off for cheating ......mo Saleh took a dive a few weeks ago and they did feck all
A strong jack Taylor type old school ref is what's needed not yet another soccer , god I hate the way rugby types call it that ....... article
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jamieccfc
Have you got other interests besides football? If so keep your nose out from now on!
Apart from politics probably not, but he has no interest other than promoting his books/tv career.
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SLUDGE FACTORY
He's probably one of the best refs in the world ......the world's best if you listen to the inbred incestuous Welsh media
And he makes some very good points
But he is just playing to the wendyball bigots , we don't need new rules we need refs willing to send people off for cheating ......mo Saleh took a dive a few weeks ago and they did feck all
A strong jack Taylor type old school ref is what's needed not yet another soccer , god I hate the way rugby types call it that ....... article
Exactly Sludge. He should keep his nose out of something he knows f all about.
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Auntie Andy
Why the hostility? Apart from the fact he’s involved in th game of rugby....which for some reason is considered evil.
Nobody could deny that any rule brought in that would see Ramos go off the pitch for 15 minutes moaning and whinging would be worthwhile.
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RygeTheRam
No. It cuts the shit out which is ruining the 'beautiful game'
Yep and the team with the player advantage would then really go for it during the sin bin period.
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Divine Wright
Why the hostility? Apart from the fact he’s involved in th game of rugby....which for some reason is considered evil.
Nobody could deny that any rule brought in that would see Ramos go off the pitch for 15 minutes moaning and whinging would be worthwhile.
Who said anything about rugby being evil? For your information and Mr Gammons , I support Senghenydd in rugby. I watch them when the City are away, most weeks. Also watch my nephews play for Senghenydd youth. I just don’t like Nigel Owens, he gets on my bloody nerves with his “this is not soccer” and all the other anti football jibes he makes.
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I just wonder what the reaction would be if this had been said by somebody in football.All this play acting shite is killing the game.Its interesting though in countries like Italy this kind of behaviour is often regarded as being clever.This thread ought to be retitled to "Shoot the messenger"
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sneggyblubird
I just wonder what the reaction would be if this had been said by somebody in football.All this play acting shite is killing the game.Its interesting though in countries like Italy this kind of behaviour is often regarded as being clever.This thread ought to be retitled to "Shoot the messenger"
I think a lot of posters on here think they have to slate the oval ball game in order to be a cool “proper” City fan.
Owens was just giving his thoughts and opinions on a topic, just like everybody does.
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We all know the play acting is a disgrace. No matter what sport you're from, a cheat is easily spotted.
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jeremy corbyn
I just wish the egger would keep his nose out of football. He has no interest in the game, just looking to publicise his latest book.
Can we ban this stupid word egger????
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Closet Liverpool fan l bet,wonder what he thought of Gareth’s goal,
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Badly Ironed Shirt
Because it adds more pressure on the referees. Because it slows the game. Because it gives referees too much influence on a game.
Because it works in rugby, it doesn't mean it has to work in all sports. Does it?
VAR was pushed and pushed again by Sky - for 2 seasons at least every dodgy decision prompted ' we need VAR' comments. For the TV companies it's an added bit of 'drama', and so will sin bins. All it will do is slow down the game even more, and unlike rugby where an extra man makes all the difference, all you will see is 10 men behind the ball for the duration of the 'ban'...