Loris Karius: Liverpool keeper concussed during Champions League final - doctors

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/44363648

PR at work or just BS at work ? Yankee doctors too !!!!! :hehe:

Ramos gonna Ramos

What an excuse.

Having doctors unable to diagnose a concussion, leaving a player with a concussion on the pitch would land the scousers in the shit...

Concussion didn't cause Benzema's goal, that was stupidity.

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Originally Posted by ccfc_is_my_life

What an excuse.

Having doctors unable to diagnose a concussion, leaving a player with a concussion on the pitch would land the scousers in the shit...

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Being the old cynic that I am , Liverpools American owners will be dealing with this in the best way possible, that suits them $$$$$

Best excuse since the dog ate my homework!

Some of the replies on the SSN twitter :hehe:

https://twitter.com/skysportsnews/st...590588929?s=21

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Originally Posted by ccfc_is_my_life

What an excuse.

Having doctors unable to diagnose a concussion, leaving a player with a concussion on the pitch would land the scousers in the shit...

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Karius didn't make a meal of it and didn't receive any treatment if I recall correctly. Most didn't see the elbow until after the game.

Breaking news: Liverpool are asking for a replay.

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Originally Posted by Wales-Bales

Breaking news: Liverpool are asking for a replay.

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They have more chance getting a refund for the doctors report I reckon.

Here we go again everyone's fault but our own , woe is me , why us , pity us , we could have a special Karius day each year ?

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Originally Posted by life on mars

Here we go again everyone's fault but our own , woe is me , why us , pity us , we could have a special Karius day each year ?

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That's not what's being said is it? You make it sound like Liverpool always do this - do they?

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Originally Posted by Badly Ironed Shirt

That's not what's being said is it? You make it sound like Liverpool always do this - do they?

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I was waiting for someone to make the "always the victim" style joke. I don't get it either, does it stem from Hillsborough?

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Originally Posted by City123

I was waiting for someone to make the "always the victim" style joke. I don't get it either, does it stem from Hillsborough?

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Think it's been around longer than that. I know there were Liverpool fans who didn't like the way they they and their club were treated after Heysel, but I've never understood it either.

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Originally Posted by life on mars

Here we go again everyone's fault but our own , woe is me , why us , pity us , we could have a special Karius day each year ?

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That’s not what is being said though is it?
You’ve made yourself look a bit foolish here fair play by regurtatbv lazy cliches without reading the story properly.

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Originally Posted by The Bob Banker Spanker

Concussion didn't cause Benzema's goal, that was stupidity.

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I find that goal unbelievable. Benzema was right in front of him. Bale's second was a bad error but that goal was something else entirely.

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Originally Posted by lardy

I find that goal unbelievable. Benzema was right in front of him. Bale's second was a bad error but that goal was something else entirely.

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Brain glitch. We all do stupid shit at times, just his was witnessed by millions and actually mattered.

The second bale goal is just poor keeping, doesn't get his body behind it right, doesn't get his hands in the right position, just awful concentration.

Seems to me that all the long hair lovers of Liverpool are hurting badly I havent even seen any highlights of the game.:hehe:

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Brain glitch. We all do stupid shit at times, just his was witnessed by millions and actually mattered.
The second bale goal is just poor keeping, doesn't get his body behind it right, doesn't get his hands in the right position, just awful concentration.

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I'm undecided about the truth of this matter. After watching three play-off finals, I thought none of those six goalies would have made the mistakes Karius made. But then I remembered those two goalies who similarly failed to deal with Bale's long shots on Wales' way to the European Championships. So, exactly this sort of error can and did happen.

I'd also like to know how Karius performed overall after the Ramos incident. Was he flakey/shakey? If so, that might be evidence of concussion. If not........

Concussion in sport is a big current issue, its an issue that people look at the sport and because the injury is not immediately obvious, you have the player and fans expecting the player to carry on. You only have to look at the attitude within this thread.

The studies currently going on within sports about the consequences of repeated concussion injuries are shocking, especially in american sports where the study is based.

As an amateur coach you feel a bit helpless where you see a professional player, surrounded by a professional medical team, and 100s of cameras documenting his every move, can continue to play a large percentage of a football match with a concussion injury.

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

Think it's been around longer than that. I know there were Liverpool fans who didn't like the way they they and their club were treated after Heysel, but I've never understood it either.

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Wasn't Heysel Chelsea's fault after they bought tickets and went over to cause trouble ( apparently )

Just as mental illness was mocked for so long, now concussion is being mocked. I heard Chris Sutton on the radio saying that he should have kept this to himself and not used it as an excuse. That's backward thinking and I hope clubs will learn from this because he was clearly affected by whatever happened to him.

FIFPro have already said that they will release a video to all clubs showing players how to recognise the signs of concussion.

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Originally Posted by Cyclops

I'm undecided about the truth of this matter. After watching three play-off finals, I thought none of those six goalies would have made the mistakes Karius made. But then I remembered those two goalies who similarly failed to deal with Bale's long shots on Wales' way to the European Championships. So, exactly this sort of error can and did happen.

I'd also like to know how Karius performed overall after the Ramos incident. Was he flakey/shakey? If so, that might be evidence of concussion. If not........

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He'd played pretty well up to the elbow which adds to the theory

If you like at the amount the ball moves after Bale shoots it becomes apparent why keepers have problems with apparently innocuous shots from him

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Originally Posted by Shute

Just as mental illness was mocked for so long, now concussion is being mocked. I heard Chris Sutton on the radio saying that he should have kept this to himself and not used it as an excuse. That's backward thinking and I hope clubs will learn from this because he was clearly affected by whatever happened to him.

FIFPro have already said that they will release a video to all clubs showing players how to recognise the signs of concussion.

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They might not be able to catch the ball every time?

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Originally Posted by ccfc_is_my_life

What an excuse.

Having doctors unable to diagnose a concussion, leaving a player with a concussion on the pitch would land the scousers in the shit...

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Originally Posted by The Bob Banker Spanker

Concussion didn't cause Benzema's goal, that was stupidity.

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Originally Posted by Wales-Bales

Best excuse since the dog ate my homework!

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Originally Posted by life on mars

Here we go again everyone's fault but our own , woe is me , why us , pity us , we could have a special Karius day each year ?

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Glad we’ve got the resident concussion experts on today!

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Originally Posted by Toadstool

Wasn't Heysel Chelsea's fault after they bought tickets and went over to cause trouble ( apparently )

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The Liverpool chairman said that at the time and it was part of what is generally perceived as a lot of blame-shifting concerning Heysel. I assume it's a contributory factor to the 'always the victims, it's never your fault' chant although I don't remember hearing the chant before the Suarez/Evra affair, which Liverpool handled spectacularly badly. When Man Utd fans have sung it there's been an assumed link with Hillsborough but Everton fans have sung it too so there must be more to it than that (surely Everton fans can't be that stupid?).

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Originally Posted by Toadstool

Wasn't Heysel Chelsea's fault after they bought tickets and went over to cause trouble ( apparently )

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That was the lie Liverpool spread.
Chairman claimed it, councillor ( later to head a Hillsborough campaign group ) claimed it.

That's why there's so much anger in Italy that it took so long to admit their culpability. Yes, there is much irony there.

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Originally Posted by Loramski

The Liverpool chairman said that at the time and it was part of what is generally perceived as a lot of blame-shifting concerning Heysel. I assume it's a contributory factor to the 'always the victims, it's never your fault' chant although I don't remember hearing the chant before the Suarez/Evra affair, which Liverpool handled spectacularly badly. When Man Utd fans have sung it there's been an assumed link with Hillsborough but Everton fans have sung it too so there must be more to it than that (surely Everton fans can't be that stupid?).

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Evra got booed and Liverpool fans chanted "lying bastard" at him this season. The Ramos thing as well, 500k signatures, give it a rest. Liverpool fans are a special breed. https://twitter.com/howiehok3434/sta...83431596105728 This was taken from the Anfield Wrap.

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

Think it's been around longer than that. I know there were Liverpool fans who didn't like the way they they and their club were treated after Heysel, but I've never understood it either.

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They do at times not help themselves , recently they decided to storm, a bus , in a time where we thought they were beyond this behavior in a European competition ,what concerns me the same people who are fully aware of football tragedies probably more any other fans , yes they join in memorials to those awful moments ,and rightly so , however they are still they capable in their thousands of creating unsafe fan actions and behaviors ?