It's that time again.
Fair play on the qualification record.
Now the big games that count start.
I reckon fail at the Group stage again.:hehe:
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It's that time again.
Fair play on the qualification record.
Now the big games that count start.
I reckon fail at the Group stage again.:hehe:
I can see them doing ok.
A couple of decent forwards, a young side, sensible tactics that suit the players they have.
Yeah me too, expectations aren’t high at all and it’s probably the most likeable group of players they’ve had too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rjk
Lots of goals in Sterling and Kane. A bit too weak in midfield and at centre half to win it but the system Southgate has them playing really suits them.
The England team is very a much of a muchness. Apart from Kane Walker Sterling you can pretty much throw anyone in there from a group of 30.
I think they keep trying to emulate teams like Spain but they don't have the players or techique the Spanish players do and then ultimately they don't do anything because when they play against better teams or ones with a good game plan fall short.
The reason they do so well in qualifying i's they can get away with it as do have good enough players.
Their strength is pace they should be playing more like Leicester a few years ago but they won't as it unfashionable. Hitting teams on counter attack with players like sterling Rashford and vardy.
I think they’ll do well too. Very exciting up front.
Ra Ra Rasputin England's getting knocked out of the world cup again.
Draw with Tunisia, beat Panama and lose to Belgium is my prediction, out in the second round
Raheem Sterling hasn’t scored for England in his last 20 appearances, going back nearly three years. He’s only ever scored twice for England in 38 caps, a record much worse than that of Simon Church, who managed to score five goals in 38 appearances for Wales.Quote:
Originally Posted by Croesy Blue
He’s a young player who’s always improving and has improved his all round game and confidence under Guardiola and scored 23 goals last season.Quote:
Originally Posted by severncity
Club form doesn't necessarily translate to international successQuote:
Originally Posted by Croesy Blue
For examples see basically every England side of the last 20 years
I'm fairness Sterling is more of a winger than Simon Church who was a CF.Quote:
Originally Posted by severncity
Crazy stat though really. He's an integral part of Citeh' s squad but with that record probably should be nowhere near the England side.
Yes but his current form is a bit more relevant to his performances from years ago. He’s improved loads in the last 2 seasonsQuote:
Originally Posted by City123
Ok then, how about comparing Sterling to Hal Robson Kanu? He’s a winger who has 44 caps and 5 goals. No matter which way you frame it, Sterling’s goalscoring record for England is pretty poor.Quote:
Originally Posted by MacAdder
Yet to see a pundit predict anything other than quarter finals for England.Quote:
Originally Posted by severncity
The way the draw is would be a big shock if they got knocked out before or after that.
His scoring record everywhere wasn’t what It should have been until this season. But he’s improved his finishing and decision making so much. Ridiculous number of goals and assists this season.Quote:
Originally Posted by severncity
He’s always been a quality player, people forget how young he is and that his all round game wasn’t perfected yet. He needed a decent coach to polish him a bit.
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Originally Posted by severncity
^^^this^^^ :biggrin:Quote:
Originally Posted by Croesy Blue
By the way I was kind of agreeing with you initially sev but CB is right.
I do think though (without checking any stats) that Sterling needs a lot of chances to score his goals so I don't expect his ratio to drastically improve after this WC.
I think they will qualify from the group .
Going on last night’s performance Sterling couldn’t hit a large barn door with a supersized banjo.Quote:
Originally Posted by Croesy Blue
Or a cow's arse with a shotgun :biggrin:Quote:
Originally Posted by severncity
How many times have we seen him fluff a tap-in? The lino 1st half saved his blushes.
Thought they’d won the Cup the way BBC were going on about it this morning.Quote:
Originally Posted by life on mars
When he missed that chance all I could think about was this thread :hehe:
Stirling is a quality player. I can't believe people are comparing him to Simon church and hal Robson kanu. Can you imagine either of those in that man city side, they would stick out like sludge in a convent.
He's not been scoring many, but his pace is electric and really gives them an option. Will be a lot more effective against teams that defend a bit higher up the pitch.
I think he's going to be a top class player, his stats for last season were amazing. He was frustrating last night but still managed to get in a lot of good positions, he seems to get more stick from the media than any other england player too.
I don't really understand the stick. He's not outspoken, he hasn't said many controversial comments. He seems a decent enough guy in his interviews, not cocky. I don't think it's racism either, as is sometimes said, because by now there have been more than enough black players for England who get by without the attention.Quote:
Originally Posted by Croesy Blue
I just don't get it.
I think there is a slight racsim element to it and a slight classism element to it, he's a first generation immigrant who came from nothing and it now earning millions and the sun who are the main culprits of this know it will wind up their readership and get clicks and comments.
To all those jumping in I bumped this because Croesy Blue predicted that Sterling would carry his Citeh goalscoring form into the WC. I demurred and quoted a few statistics. At international level HRK and Simon Church have much better goalscoring records. Of course Sterling is head and shoulders above them as a player but put an England shirt on him and he turns into Eddie Johnson circa 2009.
Scouse? :biggrin:Quote:
Originally Posted by lardy
I think he's a good player but lucky to be in Man Citeh side.
Good attitude on him to keep getting in the positions he does.
It is fun though to watch a player who earns so much and with such a high profile mess up and I don't think the flak he takes is personal.
I rate him. Of course he's not a De Bruyne or a David Silva but then he's not expected to be.
He's direct, explosive, is 1v1 dominant and scores and creates goals. Technically he is much weaker than De Bruyne but he is effective.
At this moment in time, England need players who primarily can play the pressing game the y want to play, and second whose movement will generate a large number of chances.
Someone who doesn't get many chances, but when he has one on a plate will tuck.it away 9/10 times is the wrong guy for this England team. Perhaps if they had a team of elite creative passers, but they don't.
Sterling (and Lingard) get in good positions all the time. Sterling has an obvious confidence issue when playing for England but he's very effective. If one goes in from a few yards, he could really explode. I think he's unplayable on his day but then again, I've always been a fan.Quote:
Originally Posted by thehumblegringo
Also, they've got Kane who will score despite not doing anything. They lack creativity in midfield, and Walker really looks like a full back playing inside at times but they'll do OK.
I think walker showed why Southgate has him at the back a couple of times last night. There were one or two occasions when Tunisia managed to beat the press and sent balls through for their attackers to run on to, but walker is so quick that he snuffed them out immediately every time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa
He nearly turned into trouble a few times as well. I get why he's there but he's going to make mistakes like he did last night for the pen as he doesn't understand the position fully.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rjk
29 premier league starts with 18 goals and 11 assist from the wing says he deserves to be there.Quote:
Originally Posted by MacAdder
And if you don't think the slack he takes is personal you haven't been reading the papers recently.
I really like Walker as a full back and he's done well as part of the 3 centre halves but he definitely turned into trouble a few times last night.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa
I thought trippier at right back though was their best player. His conversion rate of crosses is unreal!
With the players around him and amount of chances Citeh create, Eddie Johnson woukd have a decent strike rate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Croesy Blue
I agree he does deserve to be there.
Jeez you really are a fan aren't you :biggrin:
I am basing my opinion on what I see, what people write on here and what I see on tv.
I don't read the papers often, just scour them online and certainly don't give the ones who are getting personal as you say, the time of day.
Sterling is a good player who scores a lot of goals. He gets in good positions constantly, same as Lingard. I'd much rather someone who spurns chances than someone who never gets there. I'm not going to comment on the rags though, that's been done to death and it is completely shameful.Quote:
Originally Posted by MacAdder
I just really rate him and always have, he definitely deserves to be in that City side on merit if not they'd have spent 100 million on another winger to replace him.Quote:
Originally Posted by MacAdder