I'm not sure if this is true, did Giggs refer to England tonight as we?
If so, how embarrassing for you. Cardiff born, a huge number of caps and national team manager.
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I'm not sure if this is true, did Giggs refer to England tonight as we?
If so, how embarrassing for you. Cardiff born, a huge number of caps and national team manager.
He certainly did then referred to England as "they or you" after the match.
It's almost as if he was told during the 2nd half to not say "we or us".
When you first came on here I thought you might have some interesting things to say and add. Sadly it looks as if you're yet another wind-up merchant on a fishing trip.
Regarding your post. Who cares? In my view, it would come over as slightly pathetic not to identify as supporting the England team vs Belgium when he's invited to be a pundit by a British TV station commenting on a game involving them.
Excuses, would he refer to Scotland as we?Quote:
Originally Posted by Penarth Blues
Wind up merchant? Ffs he's embarrassed himself and Welsh fans I'd be disgusted. Call it as it is.
People seem to get worked up about the most trivial things theses days.Quote:
Originally Posted by Louth
It's very poor form for our national team's manager to refer to our most hated 'rivals' as we. I can't see how it's acceptable... even in a "theses" *wink*Quote:
Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie
Not everyone 'hates' rivals, old fruit. I have hosted soirées for every England game so far as most of my friends are English and they are mature enough to not be enveloped in hate of any description.Quote:
Originally Posted by Heisenberg
Trivial? Fair enough, if you think that's acceptable from a so called Welshman and national team manager then fair enough .Quote:
Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie
Personally I'd be embarrassed,. If its the norm for Welsh fans too, who am I to judge? Good luck against Colombia
Do you refer to England as 'we'?Quote:
Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie
No but Giggs has plied his trade in England for all of his career and partially identifies with his fellow UK citizens, some of whom he may have played with. Nobody died. I live in England and many of my English friends wished Wales well during the Euros as they appreciated a certain commonality.Quote:
Originally Posted by Louth
Do you call Swansea, "we"?Quote:
Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie
Edit: Also, a country isn't the same as football team. I hate the England national team, but not English people. I can separate the two.
Have you thought of campaigning for a Team GB?Quote:
Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie
You enjoy your hate, fella.Quote:
Originally Posted by Heisenberg
Nah, I follow Wales and am proud to do so. I don't need any hate in my soul to support my club and country. Weird, eh?Quote:
Originally Posted by Louth
Is that it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie
Ffs its nothing to do with hate. I couldn't care less about the England team.Quote:
Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie
You've turned this around completely. Its about Giggs, not the English.
Talk about fecking blinkered.
Heisenberg introduced the concept of hate. I responded to that comment. Best check the thread properly before calling me 'fecking blinkered', old boy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Louth
Old boy? Soirée?Quote:
Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie
Stop being such a pretentious twat.
You're embarrassed as any other Welsh fan. You just can't bring yourself to admit it.
Take a look at Twitter, I think you'll find the English taking the piss out of you too
Oh dear. Mature debate seems to have descended into personal insults and you maintain that my thoughts are opposed to what I write because you think differently. Says a great deal.Quote:
Originally Posted by Louth
To be fair, he shouldn't be referring to another country's national team as 'we'. It was awkward to watch.
Just imagine TBG, if Giggs gets us qualified for the Euros in 2 yrs time. How will the haters cope with that?Quote:
Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie
Wouldn’t say it was any more embarrassing than your lot excepting a bung from FIFA to stop moaning about Thierry Henry’s handball against you. 😂Quote:
Originally Posted by Louth
I can imagine it now. We draw England again..... *dream sequence*Quote:
Originally Posted by William Treseder
Giggs: "Look lads, we need to concentrate on our right flank as our left side is fragile. Our fullback, Rose, is the weak link defensively... we won't be able to cope with a full-on attack down that side. We won't know what will hit us!"
Mature debate? I'm telling you not debating with you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie
English fans are taking the piss on twitter. Are they full of hate too?
Leave the haters excuse at the door.Quote:
Originally Posted by William Treseder
He's embarrassed himself. Nothing worse than blind loyalty.
*accepting #embarassedQuote:
Originally Posted by William Treseder
Well spotted. I’ll sleep easier tonight. 👍Quote:
Originally Posted by Louth
I read it more as the way coaches speak "can we get it into Loftus-Cheek" anyone who's even spoken to a coach at any level of football will be familiar with this way of speaking
Even if he did mean it the way Louth says, who cares?
https://www.thesun.co.uk/world-cup-2...ng-we-england/
'SACKABLE OFFENCE' World Cup 2018: Wales fans slate Ryan Giggs for saying ‘we’ when discussing England during Belgium clash
Manchester United legend Giggs was working as a pundit for ITV when giving his opinion during Gareth Southgate's side's clash against Belgium.
But he appeared to have a slip of the tongue as he referred to "we" when chatting about England at half-time.
Welshman Giggs, who picked up 64 caps for his country between 1991 and 2007, said: "In that No 10 position, Rashford's dropping in, but can we get Loftus-Cheek in that little No 10 position?"
Furious Dragons fans were quick to pick up on his error.
One said: "Ryan Giggs can pack his f***ing bags as Wales manager."
Another posted: "Ryan Giggs needs to stop calling England 'we'. If he loves them so much why don't he go join their coaching staff?"
A fellow user wrote: "Ryan Giggs saying 'we' about England has just undone six months of good work and put him back very much in doubt for me."
Another posted: "Ryan Giggs has just referred to England as 'we'. That has to be a sackable offence surely?!"
One fan said: "Why is Ryan Giggs saying 'we' when talking about England?"
A fellow user wrote: "Why does Ryan Giggs say 'we' when talking about England? You're the Wales manager now too, have some f***ing shame."
Another said: "How come Ryan Giggs has suddenly become an Englishman and what the f*** is he doing there as a pundit."
One posted: "Ryan Giggs hasn't got any socks on and keeps referring to England as 'us' even though he's the Wales manager."
Giggs, 44, courted controversy during 2015 when he admitted to an eight-year affair with his brother's wife and is known as someone who will rodger anything in a skirt, has yet to comment on the furore.
I certainly dont care for Wales. I'm saying I'd be embarrassed if I was a Welsh fan.Quote:
Originally Posted by City123
Are you telling me as a Welsh fan, you're not bothered that Giggs as an ex captain and present day manager refers to England as 'we'?
It appears more English fans are upset than Welsh fans
Deep down we all know Ryan considers himself more English.
Give it a rest now Louth and go sell some more pegs👍Quote:
Originally Posted by Louth
I've seen the clip in context and its kind of obvious that he means it in the way I referenced earlier, so no I don't really care about a slip of the toungeQuote:
Originally Posted by Louth
If he'd ride into the ITV studio on horseback, with the horse white painted with St George's flag, dressed like a crusader before singing Rule Britannia, Jerusalem and GSTQ and whipping his cock out and pissing on the Welsh flag I'd be annoyed, but this is a minor slip of the tounge
I'm far more annoyed at the Welsh office removing the Welsh flag for the English one
Think Louth is happy enough to be embarrassed on all our behalf’s. what a sport he is!Quote:
Originally Posted by City123
A good lad is Louth :thumbup:Quote:
Originally Posted by William Treseder
(Is everyone in Ireland this petty?)
I can't say I'm particularly happy with it, but he's lived in England since he we a child, so understandable. Still, should know better. Why is he working as a pundit anyway? Does he need the money? Should be part of his contract as Wales manager. Well done again FAW.
Outrageous. Can you imagine Jackie Charlton doing something like that?Quote:
Originally Posted by Louth
Or "Irishman" Mick McCarthy?Quote:
Originally Posted by NYCBlue
My thoughts exactly - it doesn't help someone who already has a battle on his hands to win Welsh fans over, but I can't get too worked up about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by NYCBlue
Perhaps he see things differently to others:
England / Wales - he can support both
My wife / your wife - he can screw both
My just be his personality