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Former England manager ffs
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England won the lottery when he got caught out. ****ing dinosaurs, him keys and gray
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I agree with him on that Silva bloke in charge at Everton.
Biggest fraud in the league.
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Silva has been a big let down since he almost done an Allardyce and kept them in the league.
Allardyce get found out after he's done putting out fires.
The guy is a fool and he doesn't see how the game has evolved in the slightest. His comments about Busquets being no different to Eric Dier were the ramblings of a mad man.
He's just a xenophobic idiot and you could just imagine the conversations that go on with him Keys and Gray when the cameras go off.
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thehumblegringo
Silva has been a big let down since he almost done an Allardyce and kept them in the league.
Allardyce get found out after he's done putting out fires.
The guy is a fool and he doesn't see how the game has evolved in the slightest. His comments about Busquets being no different to Eric Dier were the ramblings of a mad man.
He's just a xenophobic idiot and you could just imagine the conversations that go on with him Keys and Gray when the cameras go off.
All true but is that any different to NW?
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Harry Paget Flashman
All true but is that any different to NW?
Not really to be honest but at least Warnock doesn't think he should be in the running for the top jobs in the country!
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thehumblegringo
Not really to be honest but at least Warnock doesn't think he should be in the running for the top jobs in the country!
But, but Jay Jay Okocha!
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Bitter old rambling dinosaur
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jamieccfc
😂
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Originally Posted by
thehumblegringo
Silva has been a big let down since he almost done an Allardyce and kept them in the league.
Allardyce get found out after he's done putting out fires.
The guy is a fool and he doesn't see how the game has evolved in the slightest. His comments about Busquets being no different to Eric Dier were the ramblings of a mad man.
He's just a xenophobic idiot and you could just imagine the conversations that go on with him Keys and Gray when the cameras go off.
Agree with every word :thumbup:
Thought silva would do well with Everton but they’ve been inconsistent and terrible at times.
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thehumblegringo
:hehe: what a load of tripe, the bloke's such a bore.
BTW what is that football show, seems like a channel full of wrong uns?
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"Allardyce slams the influence of foreign coaches".......he says whilst getting paid a fortune to work on a foreign sports channel.
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Originally Posted by
thehumblegringo
Silva has been a big let down since he almost done an Allardyce and kept them in the league.
Allardyce get found out after he's done putting out fires.
The guy is a fool and he doesn't see how the game has evolved in the slightest. His comments about Busquets being no different to Eric Dier were the ramblings of a mad man.
He's just a xenophobic idiot and you could just imagine the conversations that go on with him Keys and Gray when the cameras go off.
"xenophobic" ?? At least he doesn't wet his pants like the rest of the media about the 'luigi's and Pietro's' of this footballing world. Watching Man. City play football is the closest thing to pure boredom as you can get. 'Evolved' ? no.
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MacAdder
:hehe: what a load of tripe, the bloke's such a bore.
BTW what is that football show, seems like a channel full of wrong uns?
I think it's based in Qatar, I've watched a few city games on there and it is as shite as you would expect with Keys and Grey.
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A Quiet Monkfish
"xenophobic" ?? At least he doesn't wet his pants like the rest of the media about the 'luigi's and Pietro's' of this footballing world. Watching Man. City play football is the closest thing to pure boredom as you can get. 'Evolved' ? no.
Aw c’mon, Man City-boring. 79 goals in 30 league games, last minute winners in Europe!! Hardly Catenaccio is it? I love watching them in full flow, even more so when they’re sticking it to Man U & Liverpool.
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A Quiet Monkfish
"xenophobic" ?? At least he doesn't wet his pants like the rest of the media about the 'luigi's and Pietro's' of this footballing world. Watching Man. City play football is the closest thing to pure boredom as you can get. 'Evolved' ? no.
Man city have scored an almost tedious 79 goals so far this season - that's a mind numbing 11 more than the next highest team and more than the exciting bottom three put together.
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A Quiet Monkfish
"xenophobic" ?? At least he doesn't wet his pants like the rest of the media about the 'luigi's and Pietro's' of this footballing world. Watching Man. City play football is the closest thing to pure boredom as you can get. 'Evolved' ? no.
He's xenophobic because it's the same old drum he's banged about foreigners for the last 15 years!
As for the second part of your post I don't even know if you're serious
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Rjk
Man city have scored an almost tedious 79 goals so far this season - that's a mind numbing 11 more than the next highest team and more than the exciting bottom three put together.
And they still can’t fill their stadium, I wonder why ??????
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BLUETIT
And they still can’t fill their stadium, I wonder why ??????
Not having a global fan base of plastics like man united and Liverpool and austerity having an affect in a very poor area?
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BLUETIT
And they still can’t fill their stadium, I wonder why ??????
The stadium holds 55k and their average official attendance is 54k.
I know the actual attendance is generally lower than that, but if people are buying season tickets and only turning up to a handful of games it isn't as though the club can sell those seats again
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I reckon these were the reasons BLUETIT had in mind :hehe:
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Croesy Blue
Not having a global fan base of plastics like man united and Liverpool and austerity having an affect in a very poor area?
Having lived in Manchester for a number of years, a lot of their fans wanted to get pissed in the pub instead of going to the game. That and a lot of them preferred being shit. Also, Man City's fanbase isn't the biggest. Their tickets are often dirt cheap, it's a complete myth that "proper Mancs" support Man City, a lot of their fans are from Stockport anyway.
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thehumblegringo
He's xenophobic because it's the same old drum he's banged about foreigners for the last 15 years!
As for the second part of your post I don't even know if you're serious
Remember his Sam Allardici bit? Gold. I will say, a lot of foreign managers get smoke blown up their backsides but they usually play good football, so you're going to get more time. That and they'll often have a trophy or two on their CV to point towards.
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Pedro de la Rosa
Having lived in Manchester for a number of years, a lot of their fans wanted to get pissed in the pub instead of going to the game. That and a lot of them preferred being shit. Also, Man City's fanbase isn't the biggest. Their tickets are often dirt cheap, it's a complete myth that "proper Mancs" support Man City, a lot of their fans are from Stockport anyway.
On the other hand I’ve got family in Manchester & go up quite regular. My missus made a telling remark walking around town there during the summer, “ I haven’t seen anyone with any Manchester United gear walking around yet I’ve noticed a hell of a lot with Man City stuff on’. Thought it was the type of thing only I’d notice out of the two of us. Seems 100% Man City where my family live, Didsbury, Burnage and, as you say, Stockport area. I’ve been going up since 1967 and in my experience it’s definitely a Man City town, unless Man United fans are a bit embarrassed by the whole plastic thing. Did speak to a Man United fan on holiday a while ago and his view was that the club didn’t want the likes of him anymore, they were geared up to coaches coming up from Gloucester, Nuneaton etc and making a full day of it, spending in the club superstore, buying all sorts of tat, then two weeks later coaches from the likes of Maidstone, Worcester etc doing the same thing, he was very bitter. F^ck Man United anyway........& Liverpool 👍
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Pedro de la Rosa
Remember his Sam Allardici bit? Gold. I will say, a lot of foreign managers get smoke blown up their backsides but they usually play good football, so you're going to get more time. That and they'll often have a trophy or two on their CV to point towards.
I remember a few seasons ago, I looked at foreign managers in the championship, there were something like 5 of them at the time, and 4 were in the top 6
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Rjk
I remember a few seasons ago, I looked at foreign managers in the championship, there were something like 5 of them at the time, and 4 were in the top 6
Updated for this season, there are 4 foreign managers.
2 are currently occupying the top 2 positions, at Leeds and Norwich, then one at Brentford who are doing pretty well for a club of their income and lastly one at reading who are shit
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splott parker
Aw c’mon, Man City-boring. 79 goals in 30 league games, last minute winners in Europe!! Hardly Catenaccio is it? I love watching them in full flow, even more so when they’re sticking it to Man U & Liverpool.
In 'full flow' yes..
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Rjk
I remember a few seasons ago, I looked at foreign managers in the championship, there were something like 5 of them at the time, and 4 were in the top 6
Why do you think foreign managers are generally more successful?
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thehumblegringo
Why do you think foreign managers are generally more successful?
Perhaps they’ll only leave their homeland when there’s a guarantee of money to spend resulting in a strong squad. Our only foreign manager spent on dubious quality, although is Solksjaer your typical foreign manager having spent years in the English system?
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thehumblegringo
Why do you think foreign managers are generally more successful?
Not sure of the situation now, but historically they've put far more emphasis on coach training and development. Spain and Germany had many times more qualified coaches than England.
You see a lot more tactical innovation and new approaches to the game than in British football generally.
I think it probably has its roots in the difference at youth level, where in other countries there used to be a lot more emphasis on developing the players whereas here it was all about winning, so teams would just pick the biggest kids and lump it forward.
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He seems bitter.
That said, England is a very faddy place, which is good in the sense that they are open to foreign imports but I think they can get carried away with the latest new thing without understanding whether or not it’s any good.
When he talks about foreign people bringing up their kids better than English people, I wonder what he’s referring to? Diet? Socialising? Knowing how to drink without turning into a chump? Wearing the appropriate clothes for different weather conditions?
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thehumblegringo
Why do you think foreign managers are generally more successful?
My mate has a theory that in the UK, football is predominantly a working class game while abroad, it is a game for all walks of life, so managers abroad often have better educations, smarter etc.
I think our football is harmed by the pitches we play on, and our football isn't as good because of it. We don't have the pitches or facilities down to weather and money (which is ridiculous with riches of PL) etc, whereas in Spain and Italy etc, you can get the ball down and play from an early age. Also, culturally British football fans like to see tackles and battles, whereas abroad this isn't as common.
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I think education is seeing differently amongst the work class abroad too. In school here anyone doing well or trying gets a load of shit from their mates. In Europe at least it seems much more acceptable to work hard and get a decent education.
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A Quiet Monkfish
"xenophobic" ?? At least he doesn't wet his pants like the rest of the media about the 'luigi's and Pietro's' of this footballing world. Watching Man. City play football is the closest thing to pure boredom as you can get. 'Evolved' ? no.
Man City are a joy to watch and look like they can score every time they go forward...which they usually do judging by the amount they’ve scored this season.
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Pedro de la Rosa
My mate has a theory that in the UK, football is predominantly a working class game while abroad, it is a game for all walks of life, so managers abroad often have better educations, smarter etc.
I think our football is harmed by the pitches we play on, and our football isn't as good because of it. We don't have the pitches or facilities down to weather and money (which is ridiculous with riches of PL) etc, whereas in Spain and Italy etc, you can get the ball down and play from an early age. Also, culturally British football fans like to see tackles and battles, whereas abroad this isn't as common.
These 4G pitches seem to be popping up everywhere nowadays which is a good thing imo it’s just hard to book them because the demand is so high, it makes me sick how much the premier league clubs are getting while all the lower league clubs are struggling to stay afloat then you have grass roots I just don’t know where all the money is going
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Originally Posted by
A Quiet Monkfish
"xenophobic" ?? At least he doesn't wet his pants like the rest of the media about the 'luigi's and Pietro's' of this footballing world. Watching Man. City play football is the closest thing to pure boredom as you can get. 'Evolved' ? no.
How would you describe the football you would prefer to see?
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Croesy Blue
I think education is seeing differently amongst the work class abroad too. In school here anyone doing well or trying gets a load of shit from their mates. In Europe at least it seems much more acceptable to work hard and get a decent education.
Defo. In Spain , the working classes see education as a privilege. They are also mad about technicalities and details. It definitely seems to be reflected in their football.
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Rjk
Not sure of the situation now, but historically they've put far more emphasis on coach training and development. Spain and Germany had many times more qualified coaches than England.
You see a lot more tactical innovation and new approaches to the game than in British football generally.
I think it probably has its roots in the difference at youth level, where in other countries there used to be a lot more emphasis on developing the players whereas here it was all about winning, so teams would just pick the biggest kids and lump it forward.
I agree and I also think we are far more insular as a people and less willing to broaden our horizons elsewhere.
If you look at Graham Potter for example he was willing to uproot and go to Sweden where he was challenged in ways he wouldn't have experienced here.
I do think the tide is turning though. There is far more thought going into the development of footballers than there was 15 years ago.
Little children are encouraged to stay on the ball and dribble to give them a foundation and winning is now becoming secondary. It's interesting that only recently (beginning with Arsenal I believe) has strength and conditioning been given any credence at academy levels.
The fact that dinosaurs like Sam Allardyce and co are now getting frozen out highlights this. It's not enough to rant and show pashun anymore and players expect more.
I listened to a good podcast by Guillem Balague about Bielsa the other day and it was interesting that he was interviewing Adam Forshaw and Forshaw said he had no intention of going into management until he worked under Bielsa now he's seen what it can be he wants to give it a go.
http://open.live.bbc.co.uk/mediasele...d/p0725505.mp3
Kids going to Germany and experiencing different cultures can only be good for our game and can only further the game in this country.
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thehumblegringo
I agree and I also think we are far more insular as a people and less willing to broaden our horizons elsewhere.
If you look at Graham Potter for example he was willing to uproot and go to Sweden where he was challenged in ways he wouldn't have experienced here.
I do think the tide is turning though. There is far more thought going into the development of footballers than there was 15 years ago.
Little children are encouraged to stay on the ball and dribble to give them a foundation and winning is now becoming secondary. It's interesting that only recently (beginning with Arsenal I believe) has strength and conditioning been given any credence at academy levels.
The fact that dinosaurs like Sam Allardyce and co are now getting frozen out highlights this. It's not enough to rant and show pashun anymore and players expect more.
I listened to a good podcast by Guillem Balague about Bielsa the other day and it was interesting that he was interviewing Adam Forshaw and Forshaw said he had no intention of going into management until he worked under Bielsa now he's seen what it can be he wants to give it a go.
http://open.live.bbc.co.uk/mediasele...d/p0725505.mp3
Kids going to Germany and experiencing different cultures can only be good for our game and can only further the game in this country.
For all the faults of the model that Chelsea and man city are running, they are at least taking youth coaching really seriously, and investigating a lot in the process.