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I find it strange that a Cardiff colleague is heading the investigation, if I was a family member I wouldn't be happy with that.
The Mail is really on a mission with this story.
So much effort to say so little.
It reads as if they didn't even approach City for a comment - seems to me the time for the FA to get involved is if and when they think the club investigation turns out to be a whitewash.Quote:
Originally Posted by jon1959
He’s definitely upset themQuote:
Originally Posted by jon1959
I was struck with the FA saying that the allegation doesn't meet their criterion for investigation. Perhaps they see it as a father getting ansty because his boy, who he always told was a wonder footballer was suddenly told the truth and didn't like it.
I'm not sure if the Mail is trying to get at us or the FA.
I agreeQuote:
Originally Posted by xsnaggle
The Daily Mail went completely overboard when he didn’t sing GSTQ when he played for Team GB at the Olympics. None of the Welsh players did but they really had a go at Bellamy in particular. This is the paper that supported the British Union of Fascists, perhaps we shouldn’t be too surprised at the bile it likes to spout.
Indeed and its 9.9m daily readers , worrying times Its just behind the Sun with 10 million , if the Metro wasn't free those two numbers would be greatly inflated ,mostly read by the working class strangelyQuote:
Originally Posted by Toggs
He pissed them off when he said the press were partly to blame for racist attitudes, trying to get back at him
Its pathetic
Are you absolutely sure The daily Mail supports the British Union of fascists????? Really???? Really truly???Quote:
Originally Posted by Toggs
Or is it perchance just an alleged support?
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...irts%21%22.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by xsnaggle
Article in January 1934 praising Oswald Mosley and giving instructions on how to join the British Union of Fascists
It’s not nicknamed the Daily Heil for nothing!!Quote:
Originally Posted by xsnaggle
LMFA 1934. :hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by City123
Well it could hardly be from last week seeing as the British Union of Fascists dissolved in 1940Quote:
Originally Posted by xsnaggle
And yes, 1934. The year after the Nazi Party came into power in Germany
Toggs said "this is a paper that supported the British union of fascists".Quote:
Originally Posted by City123
You challenged him on that. Fair enough. Surely now you can see what he said was 100% true though.
I think it is a matter for the club to investigate with the FA keeping an eye on proceedings and looking at the evidence presented in order to step in if they don't think that the investigation has been carried out thoroughly. The daily Mail is everything that has already been said in this thread although i wonder what the response would've been if article had been about willie Mckay or the pilot who died with Sala and the main focus on their character and business dealings without quote or evidence, i'm not so sure certain posters in this thread would've brought up the fact that the Mail were mates with Mosely or simply had a vendetta against that person(Bellamy) I'm sure that an article like that would've been given a little more credence even under the same circumstances.
I'm agreeing with Toggs, I gave evidence to back up his claimQuote:
Originally Posted by Father Dougal
Wouldn’t read the rag but from what I gather it still has fascist tendencies. I’ve gathered this from this message board through links posted.Quote:
Originally Posted by xsnaggle
Yes. Meant to reply to xsnaggle personQuote:
Originally Posted by City123
Fair comment folks. I miss read "supported" as present tense.
Orthopaedic shoes.!!!!
Do you think they’ve veered away much from their 1930’s stance?Quote:
Originally Posted by xsnaggle
They made the case for hitler and Mussolini long after the war started too. How can anyone say the mail has never had facist leanings.
It’s not like Paul Darce was a centrist either.
Almost 20 million people read those rags, no wonder this country is in a state.....Quote:
Originally Posted by life on mars
I think Fascism as a concept is now widely regarded as non-supportable in the main stream. Whether certain individuals (whether in place of influence or not) still hold fascist views is another matter about which I know little.Quote:
Originally Posted by splott parker
Well a certainly didn't say that, or at least never intended to, as I apologised for in my previous post!Quote:
Originally Posted by Croesy Blue
It's an internal investigation. If I was being investigated at work for a discipline matter, it'd be coducted by someone else who worked for the organisation.Quote:
Originally Posted by Whisperer
What is happening with the investigation thought we would’ve heard something by now
I stopped reading this thread when it became more focussed on the Daily Mail as opposed to Bellamy, but was reminded of it when I read Don Corleone’s post in the academy thread about how the players had lost something without him being there.Quote:
Originally Posted by jamieccfc
Personally I’d hoped that the Bellamy issue (which I consider a complete non-issue by the way) would have been resolved really quickly and he could have got on with taking the steps to become our next manager. Our loss will be someone else’s gain I fear
The Under 18s have only won two out of their last ten matches after leading their league all season until a fortnight ago. They've had medium to long term injuries to important players for much of the time, so that may be a reason for their recent decline, but the same applied for the autumn and early winter when Bellamy was at games and they seemed to cope well enough then - it's impossible to know for sure, but the results suggest Bellamy's absence is having an adverse effect.Quote:
Originally Posted by StraightOuttaCanton
Does anyone buy the Daily Mail:sherlock:
About 1.2 million people a day.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cretin Hop
I’d have thought more than that to be honest Dave, that low figure sort of proves that the day of the printed newspaper are numbered. I’d imagine the sales of all the dailies make dismal reading compared to years gone by. Robert Maxwell (or whatever his alias was at the time) jumped at the right time.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman
Good insight, and appears to support a theory that he makes a differenceQuote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
Argh the good old days , before white shirts , you could where those black shirts for weeks without having to wash emQuote:
Originally Posted by City123
lets hope it clears up and paves the way for him to take over from NW with NW's going upstairs and his backroom team staying and supporting a developing Bellers' ,Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
I wonder if this is tied in with the new Warnock suggestion of staying onto December ,as it was thought he was going earlier, you know let the dust and news story settle down ??
Agree the thread title should be changedQuote:
Originally Posted by StraightOuttaCanton