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Staying/going during the summer
Niasse, Arter and Camarasa will be returning to their clubs at the end of the season, so are not included. Neither is Gunnarsson, who is off as well.
This is what I think is the remaining squad, with who I think should stay or go. My thoughts might clash with others.
Neil Etheridge Stay
Alex Smithies Stay
Brian Murphy Stay
Lee Peltier Stay
Joe Bennett Stay
Sean Morrison Stay
Bruno Ecuele Manga Stay
Jazz Richards Go
Leandro Bacuna Go
Matthew Connolly Go
Greg Cunningham Go
Souleymane Bamba Stay
Joe Ralls Stay
Josh Murphy Stay
Callum Paterson Stay
Bobby Reid Stay
Loic Damour Go
Kadeem Harris Stay
Junior Hoilett Stay
Danny Ward Go
Kenneth Zohore Go
Nathaniel Mendez-Laing Stay
Rhys Healey Go
It leaves us with no strikers and 1 centre midfielder. Our centre backs are aging as well. It could be that our squad needs more than a bit of a rebuild during the summer.
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Bacunas going nowhere sitting on another 4 years!!!!
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J R Hartley
Bacunas going nowhere sitting on another 4 years!!!!
Fantastic.
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Roughly 10,000 fans going!
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Originally Posted by
Des Parrot
Roughly 10,000 fans going!
That's generous
I expect the crowd on the opening day against Luton to be around 15,000
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Originally Posted by
Eric the Half a Bee
Niasse, Arter and Camarasa will be returning to their clubs at the end of the season, so are not included. Neither is Gunnarsson, who is off as well.
This is what I think is the remaining squad, with who I think should stay or go. My thoughts might clash with others.
Neil Etheridge Stay
Alex Smithies Stay
Brian Murphy Stay
Lee Peltier Stay
Joe Bennett Stay
Sean Morrison Stay
Bruno Ecuele Manga Stay
Jazz Richards Go
Leandro Bacuna Go
Matthew Connolly Go
Greg Cunningham Go
Souleymane Bamba Stay
Joe Ralls Stay
Josh Murphy Stay
Callum Paterson Stay
Bobby Reid Stay
Loic Damour Go
Kadeem Harris Stay
Junior Hoilett Stay
Danny Ward Go
Kenneth Zohore Go
Nathaniel Mendez-Laing Stay
Rhys Healey Go
It leaves us with no strikers and 1 centre midfielder. Our centre backs are aging as well. It could be that our squad needs more than a bit of a rebuild during the summer.
Reasonable assumptions. Would only disagree on a couple
I am sure Bacula will be staying.
Ward ( on his showing today) could be a useful back up in the championship.
Hoilett and Ralls have little to offer the club in any division.
All loaners to be returned without silly bids
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Originally Posted by
Eric the Half a Bee
Niasse, Arter and Camarasa will be returning to their clubs at the end of the season, so are not included. Neither is Gunnarsson, who is off as well.
This is what I think is the remaining squad, with who I think should stay or go. My thoughts might clash with others.
Neil Etheridge Stay
Alex Smithies Stay
Brian Murphy Stay
Lee Peltier Stay
Joe Bennett Stay
Sean Morrison Stay
Bruno Ecuele Manga Stay
Jazz Richards Go
Leandro Bacuna Go
Matthew Connolly Go
Greg Cunningham Go
Souleymane Bamba Stay
Joe Ralls Stay
Josh Murphy Stay
Callum Paterson Stay
Bobby Reid Stay
Loic Damour Go
Kadeem Harris Stay
Junior Hoilett Stay
Danny Ward Go
Kenneth Zohore Go
Nathaniel Mendez-Laing Stay
Rhys Healey Go
It leaves us with no strikers and 1 centre midfielder. Our centre backs are aging as well. It could be that our squad needs more than a bit of a rebuild during the summer.
Here's my presumptions:
Neil Etheridge Stay
Alex Smithies Stay
Brian Murphy Stay
Lee Peltier Stay
Joe Bennett Stay
Sean Morrison Stay
Bruno Ecuele Manga Stay
Jazz Richards Stay
Leandro Bacuna Stay
Matthew Connolly Go
Greg Cunningham Stay
Souleymane Bamba Stay
Joe Ralls Stay
Josh Murphy Stay
Callum Paterson Stay
Bobby Reid Stay
Loic Damour Go
Kadeem Harris Go
Junior Hoilett Stay
Danny Ward Stay
Kenneth Zohore Stay
Nathaniel Mendez-Laing Stay
Rhys Healey Go
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Are Josh Murphy and Bobby Decordova-Reid really going to be staying after yesterday?
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Originally Posted by
the other bob wilson
Are Josh Murphy and Bobby Decordova-Reid really going to be staying after yesterday?
Why, do you think they might leave? I don't.
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Neil Etheridge Stay
Alex Smithies Stay
Brian Murphy Stay
Lee Peltier Stay
Joe Bennett Stay
Sean Morrison Stay
Bruno Ecuele Manga Stay
Jazz Richards Go
Leandro Bacuna stay (as already highlighted - 4 year millstone deal)
Matthew Connolly Go
Greg Cunningham stay
Souleymane Bamba Stay
Joe Ralls Go
Josh Murphy Stay
Callum Paterson Go
Bobby Reid Stay
Loic Damour Go
Kadeem Harris Go
Junior Hoilett Stay
Danny Ward Go
Kenneth Zohore Go
Nathaniel Mendez-Laing Stay
Rhys Healey Go
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Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
Are Josh Murphy and Bobby Decordova-Reid really going to be staying after yesterday?
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Rock_Flock_of_Five
Why, do you think they might leave? I don't.
Ah, I've just read a topic that included post match comments that Warnock made about Murphy not training well. I see where you might be coming from now. I can also understand how Reid must be feeling right now, so yeah, fair point you made..:thumbup:
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the other bob wilson
Are Josh Murphy and Bobby Decordova-Reid really going to be staying after yesterday?
They might if Neil Warnock goes, and I hope he does.
His post match interview yesterday was embarrassing. He is shot and has nothing left to offer. To leave Murphy out as a punishment for not training well is so childish, especially as we are fighting for premier survival. The same goes for Healey being subbed ahead of Reid.
He has done wonders getting us promoted and uniting the Club. But we all know from his past that he has never been successful in the top tier and history is repeating itself.
Next season we need to rebuild under a new manager. It will take time and I predict a mid table finish in the championship for the next few seasons.
Neil and his team need to go and soon.
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'd be amazed if we don't get a can't-turn-down bid for Etheridge.
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Connolly and Damour are probably the only ones likely to be leaving. Other than that I think Warnock will look to keep the rest. Personally I would be looking to move on Jazz, Ward and Zohore as well.
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bobh
'd be amazed if we don't get a can't-turn-down bid for Etheridge.
The Club can't sell him. They have a major advertising campaign running for season tickets and he features strongly as ' I'll be there' in 19/20 season
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Not forgetting O'Keefe and the returning loanees. Tomlin, Bogle and Madine can all be moved on.
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Originally Posted by
CCFC99
Connolly and Damour are probably the only ones likely to be leaving. Other than that I think Warnock will look to keep the rest. Personally I would be looking to move on Jazz, Ward and Zohore as well.
I don't think he'll look to keep Zohore, he's probally finally lost faith in the player.
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lisvaneblue
The Club can't sell him. They have a major advertising campaign running for season tickets and he features strongly as ' I'll be there' in 19/20 season
Etheridge is probably the major worry in terms of players being poached and, with Smithies waiting in the wings, it could be a sacrifice the club is willing to make. Mendez-Laing and Bennett have had their suitors in the past as well.
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Rock_Flock_of_Five
I don't think he'll look to keep Zohore, he's probally finally lost faith in the player.
I hope so, Zohore blows hot and cold far too much.
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Even though he’s been out player of the year I’m not sure Etheridge will be in demand at PL level.
His kicking is the weakest part of his game and most clubs want keepers who are comfortable on the ball so they can start from the back.
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J R Hartley
Even though he’s been out player of the year I’m not sure Etheridge will be in demand at PL level.
His kicking is the weakest part of his game and most clubs want keepers who are comfortable on the ball so they can start from the back.
So frustrating on times, he’s obviously rigidly sticking to Warnock’s orders, but Jesus Christ mix it up a bit. The opposition always know it’s going to be a long ball and organise accordingly inevitably winning the ball. There’s times when both our full backs are free and possession could be kept, I've found myself screaming at him to roll it out but does he listen???????? No he frigging doesn’t, if he does leave he may have to go back to goalkeeping school and enrol in the distribution course!!
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Originally Posted by
J R Hartley
Even though he’s been out player of the year I’m not sure Etheridge will be in demand at PL level.
His kicking is the weakest part of his game and most clubs want keepers who are comfortable on the ball so they can start from the back.
I thought his kicking had improved earlier in the season, but it has been worse than ever in the last few games.
I'll be surprised if a Premier League team wants him.
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One thing we definitely need, a goalscorer. Two would be nice, but wont be greedy, one will be fantastic.
We never stole any points this season, not to my memory anyway (maybe Brighton home given the decision in our favour). We had to scrap and work for everything we had, a goalscorer may have stole us a few points here or there where we didn't deserve it.
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Leandro Bacuna Stay
Matthew Connolly Go
Greg Cunningham stay
Bamba Stay
Joe Ralls Stay
Josh Murphy Stay
Callum Paterson Stay
Bobby Reid Stay
Loic Damour Go
Kadeem Harris go
Junior Hoilett Stay
Danny Ward stay
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Well we'll need an almost entirely new midfield. Vaulks as a Gunnarsson replacement?
Hopefully a few academy players can step up
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Originally Posted by
Zenith
Here's my presumptions:
Neil Etheridge Stay
Alex Smithies Stay
Brian Murphy Stay
Lee Peltier Stay
Joe Bennett Stay
Sean Morrison Stay
Bruno Ecuele Manga Stay
Jazz Richards Stay
Leandro Bacuna Stay
Matthew Connolly Go
Greg Cunningham Stay
Souleymane Bamba Stay
Joe Ralls Stay
Josh Murphy Stay
Callum Paterson Stay
Bobby Reid Stay
Loic Damour Go
Kadeem Harris Go
Junior Hoilett Stay
Danny Ward Stay
Kenneth Zohore Stay
Nathaniel Mendez-Laing Stay
Rhys Healey Go
I think that’s more realistic, although I’d expect Richards to leave.
Not sure of the contract situation with Healey and Damour, but I’d expect them to be gone.
Tomlin is another you’d expect to go. Bogle and Madine too.
Wonder if we will get a promotion bonus off Sheff Utd for loaning him out ?
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Just saw this thread....could a mod delete mine pls
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Etheridge (Will be picked up as a premier No1/squad player
Bennett Ditto
Manga...Will go on a free
Richards Ditto
Arter - stay in prem
Camarasa - ditto
Gunners - gone
Harris - will go on a free for more money
Hoillet - ditto
Niasse - will go elsewhere
Madine- stay at Utd
That's 11 players 8 who are currently in the first 11.
Whichever way you look at it that's major surgery required.
The club needs to decide if its a short term fix or a more fundamental change required.
My view is we seem to be in a good position but need a long term vision is needed....not sure this club has ever been up for this though
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Thinking about it, only people we need worry about staying are Warnock and Madine. Both know how to get promoted. Was very nice of Warnock to send some Madine promotion magic to his boyhood club but we will need him next season.
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I'll give you the Malky!!
Etheridge (Will be picked up as a premier No1/squad player
Bennett Ditto
Manga...Will go on a free
Richards Ditto
Arter - stay in prem
Camarasa - ditto
Gunners - gone
Harris - will go on a free for more money
Hoillet - ditto
Niasse - will go elsewhere
Madine- stay at Utd
That's 11 players 8 who are currently in the first 11.
Whichever way you look at it that's major surgery required.
The club needs to decide if its a short term fix or a more fundamental change required.
My view is we seem to be in a good position but need a long term vision is needed....not sure this club has ever been up for this though
I pretty much agree with most of the above. Harris and Richard have barely played at all in the last two seasons, and Connolly even less. The only one I disagree with is Madine, Sheff U won't want him we'll be lumbered with him, Tomlin and Bogle and a load of players we don't really want. A lot of which are the result of Warnock's crap signings.
As for Murphy and Reid going, mentioned above, I don't think anybody would want them, and if they did, not for what we paid for them. We are going to need about 12 players to fill gaps.
I also think it's time for Bamba to move on, he's 34 now. And let's face it Danny Ward looks good for about 15 minutes every 3 months! Sadly Manga will leave, and we'll be very lucky to keep hold of Etheridge.
So we'll be left with all the players we don't really want.
A squad of Smithies, Murphy, Peltier, Bennett, Morrison, Ralls, Holiett, Mendez-Laing, Murphy, Zohore, Ward, Madine, Tomlin, Bogle, Healey. Not very good is it?
Mind you, we could win our last two games and all will be OK.
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splott parker
So frustrating on times, he’s obviously rigidly sticking to Warnock’s orders, but Jesus Christ mix it up a bit. The opposition always know it’s going to be a long ball and organise accordingly inevitably winning the ball. There’s times when both our full backs are free and possession could be kept, I've found myself screaming at him to roll it out but does he listen???????? No he frigging doesn’t, if he does leave he may have to go back to goalkeeping school and enrol in the distribution course!!
I’m sure it must be trained in to them run out as fast as possible to quickly throw it but don’t throw it stop and waste time and shout at the players because you didn’t quickly release it Marshall done exactly the same
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I'd keep Ward, he's always looked decent for us
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Neil Etheridge Stay
Alex Smithies Stay
Brian Murphy Stay
Lee Peltier Stay
Joe Bennett Stay
Sean Morrison Stay
Bruno Ecuele Manga Stay
Jazz Richards Go
Leandro Bacuna Stay (he's on a 4 year deal, plus would be a decent enough squad player at Championship level)
Matthew Connolly Go
Greg Cunningham Stay (decent enough squad player at Champonship level)
Souleymane Bamba Stay
Joe Ralls Stay
Josh Murphy Stay
Callum Paterson Stay
Bobby Reid Stay
Loic Damour Go
Kadeem Harris Stay (decent squad player for Champ. level)
Junior Hoilett Stay
Danny Ward Stay (decent squad player for Champ. level)
Kenneth Zohore Go
Nathaniel Mendez-Laing Stay
Rhys Healey Go
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LeningradCowboy
I thought his kicking had improved earlier in the season, but it has been worse than ever in the last few games.
I'll be surprised if a Premier League team wants him.
Could easily see a team like Wolves, Everton, Watford or Leicester offering 6 or 7 mill for him, as a back up keeper to their no. 1
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Trigger
Thinking about it, only people we need worry about staying are Warnock and Madine. Both know how to get promoted. Was very nice of Warnock to send some Madine promotion magic to his boyhood club but we will need him next season.
Are you a fan of "Jurassic Park" by any chance?