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Water found on distant planet
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Re: Water found on distant planet
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Originally Posted by
delmbox
Except this water was poisonous to the lifeforms that lived on there. They preferred an alternative, yet undiscovered drink. Water killed off everything there.
Obviously I'm making all of that up. I do find it interesting that, so often, scientists say that water is proof of life on a planet. No it isn't. Water is proof of water on a planet. What's to say there are alien lifeforms out there who live on entirely different, probably undiscovered elements and substances?
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Re: Water found on distant planet
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Originally Posted by
Eric the Half a Bee
Except this water was poisonous to the lifeforms that lived on there. They preferred an alternative, yet undiscovered drink. Water killed off everything there.
Obviously I'm making all of that up. I do find it interesting that, so often, scientists say that water is proof of life on a planet. No it isn't. Water is proof of water on a planet. What's to say there are alien lifeforms out there who live on entirely different, probably undiscovered elements and substances?
do you think this possibility has been overlooked by science?
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Optimistic Nick
do you think this possibility has been overlooked by science?
I doubt it. I guess we only ever read the Janet and John bits. I don't recall ever hearing in the mainstream media about the possibility of what I mentioned, but that's not to suggest science has overlooked it, of course.
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Re: Water found on distant planet
No way is there water in Swansea
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Re: Water found on distant planet
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Originally Posted by
delmbox
I listened to the news article about this tonight, I always think when this crops up, are these experts talking about life forms being human type lifeforms because i would be thinking that, probably, lifeforms on other planets may not be oxygen breathing 2 legs, arms eyes, dick and a fanny but lifeforms of a far nicer example.
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Originally Posted by
Nelsonca61
I listened to the news article about this tonight, I always think when this crops up, are these experts talking about life forms being human type lifeforms because i would be thinking that, probably, lifeforms on other planets may not be oxygen breathing 2 legs, arms eyes, dick and a fanny but lifeforms of a far nicer example.
The most advanced form of life on an exoplanet that has liquid water will most likely be amphibian/reptilian, as it would be here if it wasn't for that rock that fell to Earth 65,000,000 years ago and cooled the planet enough for mammals to thrive at the expense of cold-blooded lifeforms.
However, if the exoplanet is already cool, who knows what might evolve?
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Re: Water found on distant planet
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Originally Posted by
Eric the Half a Bee
Except this water was poisonous to the lifeforms that lived on there. They preferred an alternative, yet undiscovered drink. Water killed off everything there.
Obviously I'm making all of that up. I do find it interesting that, so often, scientists say that water is proof of life on a planet. No it isn't. Water is proof of water on a planet. What's to say there are alien lifeforms out there who live on entirely different, probably undiscovered elements and substances?
I don’t think the claim is that water is proof of life but is a condition of life as we know it, so opens up the possibility.
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Originally Posted by
bobh
The most advanced form of life on an exoplanet that has liquid water will most likely be amphibian/reptilian, as it would be here if it wasn't for that rock that fell to Earth 65,000,000 years ago and cooled the planet enough for mammals to thrive at the expense of cold-blooded lifeforms.
However, if the exoplanet is already cool, who knows what might evolve?
Or, other planets have developed way beyond ours and humans are a very primitive, early species.
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Re: Water found on distant planet
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Originally Posted by
Eric the Half a Bee
Except this water was poisonous to the lifeforms that lived on there. They preferred an alternative, yet undiscovered drink. Water killed off everything there.
Obviously I'm making all of that up. I do find it interesting that, so often, scientists say that water is proof of life on a planet. No it isn't. Water is proof of water on a planet. What's to say there are alien lifeforms out there who live on entirely different, probably undiscovered elements and substances?
No scientist has ever said water is proof of life on a planet.
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Originally Posted by
lardy
No scientist has ever said water is proof of life on a planet.
That's good. I've heard it mentioned so many times on documentaries, news reports etc that water is a suggestion that life is or was on a planet. Maybe I should have used the word suggestion, rather than proof. "Ooh, look, water. Maybe life on there....."
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Re: Water found on distant planet
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Originally Posted by
Eric the Half a Bee
That's good. I've heard it mentioned so many times on documentaries, news reports etc that water is a suggestion that life is or was on a planet. Maybe I should have used the word suggestion, rather than proof. "Ooh, look, water. Maybe life on there....."
That's what science is about surely. The hypothesis comes first, which is then modified as further evidence comes to light. The fact that there is water present on this planet and the temperature range appears to be "earth-like" (0 - 35C IIRC) then there is the possibility of carbon based lifeforms similar to those on earth also being there. To my mind it does not preclude the possibility of different life forms on other planets where there is no water.
I'm surprised that no-one has started the usual "this proves there is no God" sub-thread. Oops. Just saying like.
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Re: Water found on distant planet
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Originally Posted by
Eric the Half a Bee
That's good. I've heard it mentioned so many times on documentaries, news reports etc that water is a suggestion that life is or was on a planet. Maybe I should have used the word suggestion, rather than proof. "Ooh, look, water. Maybe life on there....."
I would imagine they also say "possible".
Up until recently we didn't know water existed anywhere else, so it's still a big deal. And yes, maybe life can exist without water but that's science fiction today, not science. I guess we become blasé quickly.
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Originally Posted by
Nelsonca61
I listened to the news article about this tonight, I always think when this crops up, are these experts talking about life forms being human type lifeforms because i would be thinking that, probably, lifeforms on other planets may not be oxygen breathing 2 legs, arms eyes, dick and a fanny but lifeforms of a far nicer example.
Or just microbes formed in a similar way to the earliest life on earth that maybe died out or evolved into something else primitive that never survived one of the many cataclysmic events that occur on most planets over time.
Maybe the microbe was called Ming The Merciless?
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Re: Water found on distant planet
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Originally Posted by
Nelsonca61
I listened to the news article about this tonight, I always think when this crops up, are these experts talking about life forms being human type lifeforms because i would be thinking that, probably, lifeforms on other planets may not be oxygen breathing 2 legs, arms eyes, dick and a fanny but lifeforms of a far nicer example.
No they aren't thinking that. Because they know there are millions of other forms of life just on the earth alone.
Glad we could help.
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lardy
No they aren't thinking that. Because they know there are millions of other forms of life just on the earth alone.
Glad we could help.
Why so condescending? The man is asking a simple question. There is no need to be so flippant with him.
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Henry Hill
Why so condescending? The man is asking a simple question. There is no need to be so flippant with him.
:hehe:
Captain Friendly is here, spreading peace and love.
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Originally Posted by
Henry Hill
Why so condescending? The man is asking a simple question. There is no need to be so flippant with him.
Snowflake getting offended on someone elses behalf
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Croesy Blue
Snowflake getting offended on someone elses behalf
:hehe: I know, crazy.
Nelson gives as good as he gets back to me. And he does it under his own username.
Henry, however, is someone's multi for when he's too chicken to say something a bit mean and nasty.
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Croesy Blue
Snowflake getting offended on someone elses behalf
Whos offended?
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Originally Posted by
lardy
:hehe: I know, crazy.
Nelson gives as good as he gets back to me. And he does it under his own username.
Henry, however, is someone's multi for when he's too chicken to say something a bit mean and nasty.
eh?
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Re: Water found on distant planet
Here's another great example of something which you can't check or see for yourself because it's eleven million light years or whatever away, but which will either cost you money or at least provide someone with a great excuse to explain the disappearance of millions into their Swiss bank accounts.
People are discussing it enthusiastically because it seems clever to understand the subtle nuances and implications to the fairy tale world David Attenborough sold them, but it's really not clever at all you know.
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Originally Posted by
RonnieBird
Here's another great example of something which you can't check or see for yourself because it's eleven million light years or whatever away, but which will either cost you money or at least provide someone with a great excuse to explain the disappearance of millions into their Swiss bank accounts.
People are discussing it enthusiastically because it seems clever to understand the subtle nuances and implications to the fairy tale world David Attenborough sold them, but it's really not clever at all you know.
Agreed
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Re: Water found on distant planet
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Originally Posted by
RonnieBird
Here's another great example of something which you can't check or see for yourself because it's eleven million light years or whatever away, but which will either cost you money or at least provide someone with a great excuse to explain the disappearance of millions into their Swiss bank accounts.
People are discussing it enthusiastically because it seems clever to understand the subtle nuances and implications to the fairy tale world David Attenborough sold them, but it's really not clever at all you know.
eh?
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Re: Water found on distant planet
David Attenborough fairy stories? Does that silly c*nt think lions aren't real?
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Originally Posted by
lardy
:hehe: I know, crazy.
Nelson gives as good as he gets back to me. And he does it under his own username.
Henry, however, is someone's multi for when he's too chicken to say something a bit mean and nasty.
A psychologist's wet dream. Hiding behind another username to swear at people for saying racism is bad then crying about people being condescending :hehe:
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Croesy Blue
A psychologist's wet dream. Hiding behind another username to swear at people for saying racism is bad then crying about people being condescending :hehe:
Says the guy who STOLE another persons username :hehe:
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jon1959
eh?
Ronnie thinks he's very clever. So when he reads about people far cleverer than him doing amazing things, he belittles it. Sort of a dunning kruger effect; he thinks it's impossible for him to not understand something so therefore if he doesn't understand it it must be wrong.
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Henry Hill
Says the guy who STOLE another persons username :hehe:
I only have the one though. I'm not such a snowflake I have to use my second account to swear at people when ccmb makes me angry.
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Originally Posted by
Croesy Blue
I only have the one though. I'm not such a snowflake I have to use my second account to swear at people when ccmb makes me angry.
That’s so ironic coming from someone who got so involved in a pathetic online feud he stole another persons username. Not taking the internet seriously at all. 😂
Anyway, do you really believe that I have this account to swear at people because I won’t swear at someone on this alleged “second account”?
Whatever next? I’m Wales Bales?
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Re: Water found on distant planet
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delmbox
Aberdare?
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Originally Posted by
jon1959
eh?
I don't believe it because i can't check it out for myself, same as Ronnie. Infact, most things that are important can't be checked or verified by me, so i'm not going to believe anything at all, ever, unless i can see it.
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Re: Water found on distant planet
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Originally Posted by
RonnieBird
Here's another great example of something which you can't check or see for yourself because it's eleven million light years or whatever away, but which will either cost you money or at least provide someone with a great excuse to explain the disappearance of millions into their Swiss bank accounts.
People are discussing it enthusiastically because it seems clever to understand the subtle nuances and implications to the fairy tale world David Attenborough sold them, but it's really not clever at all you know.
115 light years away and it'll take us 2 million years to get there. Just about when the lights will go out on Brexit I fancy.
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Re: Water found on distant planet
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Originally Posted by
Eric the Half a Bee
Or, other planets have developed way beyond ours and humans are a very primitive, early species.
Probably this....
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Re: Water found on distant planet
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Originally Posted by
lardy
Ronnie thinks he's very clever. So when he reads about people far cleverer than him doing amazing things, he belittles it. Sort of a dunning kruger effect; he thinks it's impossible for him to not understand something so therefore if he doesn't understand it it must be wrong.
No ! It doesn't matter how bloody clever anyone is, they can't verify or dispute it because it's in some place ,time or circumstance which only a tiny number of people claim they can know about, and that should sound alarm bells.
By the way, perhaps this might be the time to mention that there's a ****ing great big dragon who lives in the cloud cover at the top of Mount Everest . Fortunately I've got a magic carpet and a fairy sword and I'm planning to go and kill it before it gets everyone. Thing is, of course, that it eats gold so obviously I'll need everyone to send me some so I can keep it at bay in the mean time.
Please !!!
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Dorcus
115 light years away and it'll take us 2 million years to get there. Just about when the lights will go out on Brexit I fancy.
Well,then I suggest that you get together with Lardy, Dembeth Pixie, Rudey and the rest and set off as soon as possible. Take plenty of sandwiches and warm clothing and you should get there in time to avoid both climate change and a no deal Brexit !
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Croesy Blue
I only have the one though. I'm not such a snowflake I have to use my second account to swear at people when ccmb makes me angry.
Theres a few of those flakies about ,what's the point in having another name ,do they think were fooled,what are they worried about?
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RonnieBird
No ! It doesn't matter how bloody clever anyone is, they can't verify or dispute it because it's in some place ,time or circumstance which only a tiny number of people claim they can know about, and that should sound alarm bells.
By the way, perhaps this might be the time to mention that there's a ****ing great big dragon who lives in the cloud cover at the top of Mount Everest . Fortunately I've got a magic carpet and a fairy sword and I'm planning to go and kill it before it gets everyone. Thing is, of course, that it eats gold so obviously I'll need everyone to send me some so I can keep it at bay in the mean time.
Please !!!
You need to read up on the difference between the definitions of a normal theory and a scientific theory.