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Stores that will disappear from our High Streets in the next decade or so?
Easy to blame Brexit on stores closing but the Internet and ridiculous rents & rates are the biggest reason why our High Streets have become coffee & haircut zones!
In the next decade I can see lots of businesses disappearing:-
Travel Agents ........ lots of people book holidays online nowadays
Bookmakers
Book shops
Record Shops (HMV)
Departmental stores
I can even see libraries becoming obselete.
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On the other side of the coin, it would be good if there were more food outlets that served healthyish stuff quickly. Plenty of places to eat shit.
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Originally Posted by
blueblade
Easy to blame Brexit on stores closing but the Internet and ridiculous rents & rates are the biggest reason why our High Streets have become coffee & haircut zones!
In the next decade I can see lots of businesses disappearing:-
Travel Agents ........ lots of people book holidays online nowadays
Bookmakers
Book shops
Record Shops (HMV)
Departmental stores
I can even see libraries becoming obselete.
If libraries will develop, they will form closer links with schools, and communities to become a community hub. I wouldn't like to see libraries go as they provide a valuable service to the youngest and the oldest.
I cannot see how WH Smiths and Hollands and Barrett survive on the high street.
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Other than pizza I don't see many itialian takeaways
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Bookies are thriving aren;t they? There seem to be millions of them.
I'm surprised travel agents are still going.
I think bookshops and record shops are doing better these days too.
I think high streets are evolving and more food and drink places are part of it.
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qccfc
If libraries will develop, they will form closer links with schools, and communities to become a community hub. I wouldn't like to see libraries go as they provide a valuable service to the youngest and the oldest.
I cannot see how WH Smiths and Hollands and Barrett survive on the high street.
go to Queen Street and you will see part of WH Smith's survival plan. They have taken over the role of the Cardiff Central Post office. I believe as a franchise, but don't quote me.
The down side of this is that the old Post office in the Queens Arcade lower floor is now empty the same as 6 or 7 other units all in the same place. It's becoming like a dead zone. Also when the post office moved they dismissed all the old Post Office Staff and put all their own staff in to the new positions. Half of them look very young and I wouldn't be surprised if they are at the lower rate of minimum wage.
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Originally Posted by
qccfc
If libraries will develop, they will form closer links with schools, and communities to become a community hub. I wouldn't like to see libraries go as they provide a valuable service to the youngest and the oldest.
I cannot see how WH Smiths and Hollands and Barrett survive on the high street.
They already are community hubs in places like Tremorfa, Gabalfa and Ely. They have internet for people to print CVs, coffee shops and all kinds of stuff as well as books. some good facilities for those that cannot afford things like a good PC or printing facilities at home.
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Croesy Blue
Bookies are thriving aren;t they? There seem to be millions of them.
I'm surprised travel agents are still going.
I think bookshops and record shops are doing better these days too.
I think high streets are evolving and more food and drink places are part of it.
The reduction in stake on their betting terminals must have had a huge impact, I remember reading there was some way around it and that they were exploring using paper betting slips for virtual cycling etc, not sure where that ended up.
I suppose most of them are already successful online but it's hard to see where the future for the bricks and mortar bookie could possibly be.
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Trigger
The reduction in stake on their betting terminals must have had a huge impact, I remember reading there was some way around it and that they were exploring using paper betting slips for virtual cycling etc, not sure where that ended up.
I suppose most of them are already successful online but it's hard to see where the future for the bricks and mortar bookie could possibly be.
But again they face the problem of a large proportion of their custom doesn't have on-line facilities, as a large part of their income seems to come from those least able to afford it.
A bit like the tobacco and alcohol companies really, init?
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Originally Posted by
blueblade
Easy to blame Brexit on stores closing but the Internet and ridiculous rents & rates are the biggest reason why our High Streets have become coffee & haircut zones!
In the next decade I can see lots of businesses disappearing:-
Travel Agents ........ lots of people book holidays online nowadays
Bookmakers
Book shops
Record Shops (HMV)
Departmental stores
I can even see libraries becoming obselete.
Libraries....ours has gone volunteer-led but serves more of a community function now. Cost saving for the council....yes. Does the idea work...so long as there are enough trained volunteers but I can see that changing over the next 10 years.
As for the others...apart from a bit of holiday cash, I used a travel agents 6 years ago and before that probably in about 1999. Banks are stuffed too. Bookies....going, going....
Record shops.... a few hang on and departmental stores are becoming a thing of the past. Basically the high street is no longer needed apart from grub and booze.
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As mentioned in the thomas cook thread, brick and mortar travel agencies have been making a come back for years and actually the vast choice and confusion created online is a big driver for that.
If brick and mortar were on a level playing field as online in regards to tax dodging and business rates people would still prefer to go shopping, i don't think its a consumer choice just the cost to maintain.
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Originally Posted by
Trigger
The reduction in stake on their betting terminals must have had a huge impact, I remember reading there was some way around it and that they were exploring using paper betting slips for virtual cycling etc, not sure where that ended up.
I suppose most of them are already successful online but it's hard to see where the future for the bricks and mortar bookie could possibly be.
Bookies are closing down every week. William Hill & Ladbrokes/Coral yet to finalise the closures for Cardiff.
Those next to pubs will be the final brick jobs. 5-10 years will be gone IMO.
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IanD
Libraries....ours has gone volunteer-led but serves more of a community function now. Cost saving for the council....yes. Does the idea work...so long as there are enough trained volunteers but I can see that changing over the next 10 years.
As for the others...apart from a bit of holiday cash, I used a travel agents 6 years ago and before that probably in about 1999. Banks are stuffed too. Bookies....going, going....
Record shops.... a few hang on and departmental stores are becoming a thing of the past. Basically the high street is no longer needed apart from grub and booze.
Libraries down this way really are a community hub, linking a library, swimming pool, sports centre, skate park etc etc, got 3 around me that are purpose built
I popped to the swimming pool in Swindon last weekend, i was officiating at a swimming gala, the library it attached to the swimming pool, bounce park, ice rink and leisure centre, the computer section was fairly busy with people using the PC's
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Originally Posted by
qccfc
If libraries will develop, they will form closer links with schools, and communities to become a community hub. I wouldn't like to see libraries go as they provide a valuable service to the youngest and the oldest.
I cannot see how WH Smiths and Hollands and Barrett survive on the high street.
If they got rid of libraries we would see a rewriting of history, which is already happening to some extent on Wikipedia.
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Originally Posted by
IanD
Libraries....ours has gone volunteer-led but serves more of a community function now. Cost saving for the council....yes. Does the idea work...so long as there are enough trained volunteers but I can see that changing over the next 10 years.
As for the others...apart from a bit of holiday cash, I used a travel agents 6 years ago and before that probably in about 1999. Banks are stuffed too. Bookies....going, going....
Record shops.... a few hang on and departmental stores are becoming a thing of the past. Basically the high street is no longer needed apart from grub and booze.
And student accommodation ...
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We seem to have had a decade where staples of the high street were shut down/forced to move to easily accessible "shopping malls" and replaced by outlets that preyed on fads such as vaping, coffee or cocktails. Maybe the next decade will see a backlash as public reach more for healthy and sustainable choices such as "no waste shops", vegan cafes and exercise based shops.
Has the past decade seen people become less interested in their community? Or maybe having less time or money to spend in their local community? Or maybe greater access to destinations further afield which seemed more of interest?
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Wales-Bales
And student accommodation ...
That sounds good. Is there any more space we can find for it?
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Originally Posted by
blueblade
Easy to blame Brexit on stores closing but the Internet and ridiculous rents & rates are the biggest reason why our High Streets have become coffee & haircut zones!
In the next decade I can see lots of businesses disappearing:-
Travel Agents ........ lots of people book holidays online nowadays
Bookmakers
Book shops
Record Shops (HMV)
Departmental stores
I can even see libraries becoming obselete.
Not sure if i have bucked the trend here, but we booked a holiday in a local travel agent recently, 9 more sleeps :biggrin:
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Bookies will continue to close. So easy now to bet online on your phone.
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surge
Has the past decade seen people become less interested in their community? Or maybe having less time or money to spend in their local community? Or maybe greater access to destinations further afield which seemed more of interest?
Certainly the ability to travel more easily on our increasingly clogged up roads means people are more willing to travel further afield for recreation. People will venture further as long as something is good. I think there's an onus on towns to provide facilities and shops that people will travel for.
I also believe people have less time for their communities. Working couples struggle to pay for a mortgage nowadays. Shift patterns are very different from 20 years ago. People less willing to give up their time.
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blue matt
Libraries down this way really are a community hub, linking a library, swimming pool, sports centre, skate park etc etc, got 3 around me that are purpose built
I popped to the swimming pool in Swindon last weekend, i was officiating at a swimming gala, the library it attached to the swimming pool, bounce park, ice rink and leisure centre, the computer section was fairly busy with people using the PC's
St Mellons library has just been revamped...
but the community centre next to it has been demolished...
apparently to make way for a mosque.
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Eric the Half a Bee
I also believe people have less time for their communities. Working couples struggle to pay for a mortgage nowadays. Shift patterns are very different from 20 years ago. People less willing to give up their time.
Thatcher's dream has been fulfilled.
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I was in town on Sunday , high streets and shopping malls awful , but busy .
I then went down all the arcades , and was pleasantly suprised to see a good number of nices eateries , and independent outlets , the arcades in my view are our saving grace.
I dont think Brexit is effecting high streets its just folk are spending elsewhere such as eating out more , ,entertainment and the fact online sales of goods in 2017 increased by 15.9% according to ONS .
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bobh
apparently to make way for a mosque.
Why is that relevant? :hehe:
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Pizza Express likely to be gone soon as they are in severe financial difficulty. Unless town centres solve the parking issues they will disappear within the next 20 years.
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Someone has faith in High Street travel agents:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-49985369
Best of luck to them. I hope they keep the Thomas Cook brand alive.....not that I would use them personally.
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The whole point of Globalisation, including the EU, is to close down the economies of the formerly democratic west and move the money into China where Al Gore and George Soros can increase profits in a country which is exempt from the climate change myths and deliberate social division.
We're at the stage of buying Chinese goods for under a pound in the few surviving high street shops, or getting other Chinese goods delivered through the Internet, but make the most of that because the future will involve mass starvation and an inability to produce power.
On the bright side Donald Trump and Nigel Farage are fighting back against it, but the walking dead generation are doing everything thing they can to frustrate them .
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RonnieBird
The whole point of Globalisation, including the EU, is to close down the economies of the formerly democratic west and move the money into China where Al Gore and George Soros can increase profits in a country which is exempt from the climate change myths and deliberate social division.
We're at the stage of buying Chinese goods for under a pound in the few surviving high street shops, or getting other Chinese goods delivered through the Internet, but make the most of that because the future will involve mass starvation and an inability to produce power.
On the bright side Donald Trump and Nigel Farage are fighting back against it, but the walking dead generation are doing everything thing they can to frustrate them .
The Trump family make all their goods in China. He wants a building with his name on it in every major city.
And this guy thinks trump's fighting globalisation :hehe: :hehe:
I know you love getting replies Ronnie, so you can be satisfied you got one (even if it's for saying something silly).
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lardy
The Trump family make all their goods in China. He wants a building with his name on it in every major city.
And this guy thinks trump's fighting globalisation :hehe: :hehe:
I know you love getting replies Ronnie, so you can be satisfied you got one (even if it's for saying something silly).
Why do think I care whether I get replies ?
Having a go at Trump makes no difference to the point either. He's a politician and a businessman so don't expect him to be nice, but his agenda happens to be the best for people in the former democracies of the West.
Same goes for BoJo, who's a clown, but similarly to Mr Trump, he's not actively trying to **** his own country over.
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RonnieBird
Why do think I care whether I get replies ?
Having a go at Trump makes no difference to the point either. He's a politician and a businessman so don't expect him to be nice, but his agenda happens to be the best for people in the former democracies of the West.
Same goes for BoJo, who's a clown, but similarly to Mr Trump, he's not actively trying to **** his own country over.
If this is true, why is he behind attempts at weakening the EU? European countries are better for having a strong trade organisation, but that's not in America's interests.
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Eric the Half a Bee
If this is true, why is he behind attempts at weakening the EU? European countries are better for having a strong trade organisation, but that's not in America's interests.
As I said in the last but one post, the EU is the only major component part of globalisation which hasn't yet failed. However they spin it, it's not there to help you, it's there to destroy nation states which might stand up to China either economically or militarily. It promotes and even legislates stuff which makes all members except Germany uncompetitive, and it pretty much bans the ability of those states to defend themselves.
This is a situation where the bad guys have successfully convinced a lot of their victims that they're the good guys, and so completely are they taken in that there's not even much point in trying to persuade them otherwise. All I can say is make a list of the stuff they tell you about how we should live and what's important and see how much of it is lies.
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RonnieBird
As I said in the last but one post, the EU is the only major component part of globalisation which hasn't yet failed. However they spin it, it's not there to help you, it's there to destroy nation states which might stand up to China either economically or militarily. It promotes and even legislates stuff which makes all members except Germany uncompetitive, and it pretty much bans the ability of those states to defend themselves.
This is a situation where the bad guys have successfully convinced a lot of their victims that they're the good guys, and so completely are they taken in that there's not even much point in trying to persuade them otherwise. All I can say is make a list of the stuff they tell you about how we should live and what's important and see how much of it is lies.
Yep, all the money that’s been poured into the Welsh infrastructure by the EU is nothing short of a disgrace !!
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splott parker
Yep, all the money that’s been poured into the Welsh infrastructure by the EU is nothing short of a disgrace !!
Don't take their sweeties....you'll be sorry
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RonnieBird
As I said in the last but one post, the EU is the only major component part of globalisation which hasn't yet failed. However they spin it, it's not there to help you, it's there to destroy nation states which might stand up to China either economically or militarily. It promotes and even legislates stuff which makes all members except Germany uncompetitive, and it pretty much bans the ability of those states to defend themselves.
This is a situation where the bad guys have successfully convinced a lot of their victims that they're the good guys, and so completely are they taken in that there's not even much point in trying to persuade them otherwise. All I can say is make a list of the stuff they tell you about how we should live and what's important and see how much of it is lies.
I was wondering when the German nugget would come out. Next thing you'll be telling me that it's Germany's way of taking over Europe :hehe:
Yes, the EU has banned the ability of countries to defend itself to the point where the UK hasn't been able to bomb Syria, hunt Bin Laden, go to war in Iraq.......
Switzerland and Norway are two of the richest countries in Europe. They have deals with the EU though aren't members. If the EU was no good for these countries, they would walk away and have no trade deals. Why do they have them? Because it makes them money. If the two richest countries in Europe realise the need to cooperate and pay to have deals with the EU in order to make money, what the actual fck are we thinking that we know better and could do better than them?
Stick to reading the Beano, sorry, Breitbart.
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RonnieBird
Don't take their sweeties....you'll be sorry
What have the Romans ever done for us?
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Originally Posted by
RonnieBird
As I said in the last but one post, the EU is the only major component part of globalisation which hasn't yet failed. However they spin it, it's not there to help you, it's there to destroy nation states which might stand up to China either economically or militarily. It promotes and even legislates stuff which makes all members except Germany uncompetitive, and it pretty much bans the ability of those states to defend themselves.
This is a situation where the bad guys have successfully convinced a lot of their victims that they're the good guys, and so completely are they taken in that there's not even much point in trying to persuade them otherwise. All I can say is make a list of the stuff they tell you about how we should live and what's important and see how much of it is lies.
Another thought. If you're advocating that all European countries should be able to trade etc independently, let all American states do exactly the same. If you then suggest that America works better when all of its states work and trade together, why is it so wrong that Europe does something similar? Of course, because the EU threatens America's position on the high altar.
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