Being Welsh - and proud

Moving on from Sludge's earlier thread about being Welsh and the things NOT to be proud of, here's a few things that WOL might not print in one of their stereo typing "Ten things about...." articles.

The first mechanically powered flight was achieved by Bill FROST of Saundersfoot on 24th Sept 1896 when he flew his patented flying machine for 500 metres. That's 7 years before the WRIGHT brothers first successful flight.

Swansea's William GROVE invented the Fuel Cell in 1842. The cell combines hydrogen and oxygen to create electricity and will probably be the future power source for cars.

Carmarthen's Philip VAUGHAN invented the Ball Bearing in 1794. Placing the balls between an axle and a carriage wheel allowed movement of carriage wheels with reduced friction. The design remains unchanged in all rotating machines and vehicles to this day.

David HUGHES (1831 - 1900) of Bala invented the microphone. It's believed he also discovered radio waves 10 years before Heinrich HERTZ.

Pryce PRYCE-JONES (1834 - 1920) of Newtown invented Mail Order, selling Welsh Flannel to Europe, Australia and America. He also invented the Sleeping Bag in 1876.

Isaac ROBERTS (1829-1904) of Denbighshire developed the system for deep space photography. He solved the problem of keeping the camera pointing at small celestial objects which required long exposures while the Earth was still rotating.

There's plenty more where they came from.

I'd imagine variations of the sleeping bag existed loooong before 1876

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Originally Posted by delmbox

I'd imagine variations of the sleeping bag existed loooong before 1876

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No one had patented it before that date, therefore, he's accredited with inventing it.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/ahistoryofthewo...Ryyc2fOqSjKiLw

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Originally Posted by Harry Monk

No one had patented it before that date, therefore, he's accredited with inventing it.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/ahistoryofthewo...Ryyc2fOqSjKiLw

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Yeah I've seen that, not disputing he patented and developed the modern sleeping bag but to say he invented a self enclosed bag for sleeping is probably a stretch

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Originally Posted by Harry Monk

Moving on from Sludge's earlier thread about being Welsh and the things NOT to be proud of, here's a few things that WOL might not print in one of their stereo typing "Ten things about...." articles.

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Well, as it happens....

https://walesonline.co.uk/lifestyle/...ve-2601007.amp

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Originally Posted by Baloo

Well, as it happens....

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.w...ve-2601007.amp

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Between this and the sleeping bag fiasco, Monk's had an absolute howler here

Who invented the skip?

Tried to fix my link but ran out of edit time. This works: https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.w...ve-2601007.amp

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Josephson

Brian David Josephson FRS (born 4 January 1940) is a Welsh theoretical physicist and professor emeritus of physics at the University of Cambridge. Best known for his pioneering work on superconductivity and quantum tunnelling, he was awarded the Nobel Prize in Physics in 1973 for his prediction of the Josephson effect, made in 1962 when he was a 22-year-old PhD student at Cambridge University. Josephson is the only Welshman to have won a Nobel Prize in Physics.

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Between this and the sleeping bag fiasco, Monk's had an absolute howler here

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If you can find any reference to a sleeping bag prior to 1876 I'll concede.

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Originally Posted by Baloo

Tried to fix my link but ran out of edit time. This works: https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.w...ve-2601007.amp

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:yikes:

Maybe I should start reading WOL again.

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Originally Posted by lardy

Who invented the skip?

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You’ve missed out that in 1872 Ryan Dafydd Shanks, great great grandfather of Armytage born in Pontlottyn invented and patented the very first Toilet Seat.
Us Paddies put the hole in it in 1873 😂😀🚽🚽🇮🇪

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Originally Posted by Harry Monk

If you can find any reference to a sleeping bag prior to 1876 I'll concede.

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Native American have transported their children around in papooses for centuries.

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Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie

Native American have transported their children around in papooses for centuries.

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Yet they didn't think of developing it for use by adults.

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Originally Posted by Harry Monk

If you can find any reference to a sleeping bag prior to 1876 I'll concede.

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Many people claim to have “invented” the sleeping bag. Our own research suggests that the first was developed by Norwegian explorer Fridtjof Nansen and the first commercial one that we would recognise was produced with his guidance by the Norwegian company G. Fuglesang AS who had been producing “wadding” since 1855.

https://www.tundrasleepingbags.com/n...e-sleeping-bag

Sorry, not picking on you but we needed to get to the truth about sleeping bags.

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Originally Posted by Harry Monk

Yet they didn't think of developing it for use by adults.

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I don't know if that's the case but the Welsh guy concerned hardly 'invented' the concept, as you stated.
Native Americans didn't have Patent Office at the time :hehe:

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Originally Posted by Baloo

Many people claim to have “invented” the sleeping bag. Our own research suggests that the first was developed by Norwegian explorer Fridtjof Nansen and the first commercial one that we would recognise was produced with his guidance by the Norwegian company G. Fuglesang AS who had been producing “wadding” since 1855.

https://www.tundrasleepingbags.com/n...e-sleeping-bag

Sorry, not picking on you but we needed to get to the truth about sleeping bags.

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Thanks for doing that, it's incredibly important that this issue is clarified

Is max Boyce on the list ?

Nice to see our dead lads doing well. But why should this make me proud?

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Originally Posted by lardy

Who invented the skip?

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Was it alan partridge?

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Originally Posted by lardy

Who invented the skip?

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KP.

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Originally Posted by valleys caveman

KP.

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Bravo, truly :hehe::hehe::hehe:

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Who invented the skip?

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Some basket case!

Robert Recorde from Tenby invented the = equals sign: https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-wales-34259108

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Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie

I don't know if that's the case but the Welsh guy concerned hardly 'invented' the concept, as you stated.
Native Americans didn't have Patent Office at the time :hehe:

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I'm fairly sure a Welshman from Newport invented the concept of patents and established the first Patent Office in his home town.

Robert Owen (14 May 1771 – 17 November 1858), a Welsh textile manufacturer, philanthropist and social reformer, was one founder of utopian socialism and the cooperative movement.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Owen

John Frost (25 May 1784 – 27 July 1877) was a prominent leader of the British Chartist movement in the Newport Rising.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Frost_(Chartist)

Alfie Thomas that rugby bloke

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Price

Ryan and Ronnie, or something like that. Pioneers of outstanding Welsh comedy..

That fat bloke who sings the go compare adverts dressed as an opera singer

And gets paid to do stand up at tory party fundraising meetings

That bloke who did that do the ayatollah video for the fa cup final

That was brilliant that was

He will go down in the history books

Bryn Terfyl

Proud welshmen, supports manchester united , who are english

Anyone from Wales that supports an English team is clearly not proud of where they’re from. To me, supporting teams (and acting like you’re a part of it) because they’re successful indicates a personality flaw.

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Originally Posted by Baloo

Many people claim to have “invented” the sleeping bag. Our own research suggests that the first was developed by Norwegian explorer Fridtjof Nansen and the first commercial one that we would recognise was produced with his guidance by the Norwegian company G. Fuglesang AS who had been producing “wadding” since 1855.

https://www.tundrasleepingbags.com/n...e-sleeping-bag

Sorry, not picking on you but we needed to get to the truth about sleeping bags.

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That's after 1876. He produced "wadding" in 1855, and did research in 1888 where he then "produced" sleeping bags in 1889. That's 23 years after PRYCE sold 60,000 of his sleeping bags to the Russian Army.

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Originally Posted by Harry Paget Flashman

I'm fairly sure a Welshman from Newport invented the concept of patents and established the first Patent Office in his home town.

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Nope regarding the concept of patents. That was around in Ancient Greece and 15th century Venice.

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Originally Posted by Harry Monk

That's after 1876. He produced "wadding" in 1855, and did research in 1888 where he then "produced" sleeping bags in 1889. That's 23 years after PRYCE sold 60,000 of his sleeping bags to the Russian Army.

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This is all very curious and I think something we really need to get to the bottom of. Further research has revealed the following.

As it turns out, the modern-day outdoorsman has the French to thank for the creation of sleeping bags as we loosely know them. In the 1850s, French customs officials patrolled the Pyrenees between Spain and France. Naturally, they needed to keep warm overnight so they created a knapsack bag from sheepskin. They lined the interior with wool and then attached some buckles so they could roll it up during the day. It wasn't pretty and I don't imagine nightly bathroom breaks were easy, but the bag got the job done!

The evolution continued into the 1870s when a Welsh inventor named Pryce Pryce-Jones created the first commercially successful sleeping bag. As the father of the mail order business, P.J. was bound to have an entrepreneurial spirit and proved that with the Euklisia Rug.

The Euklisia Rug was a wool blanket with a pocket near the top for a sewn in, inflatable rubber pillow. Users just climbed in, folded the blanket over their bodies, and fastened the sides together. It seems so simple but this design style eliminated the hassle of men climbing into sack-like sleeping bags. In fact, it was so popular that PJ immediately sold 60,000 bags to the Russian army to be used during the Siege of Plevna during the Russo-Turkish War.

Unfortunately for PJ, the city fell before the Russian Army fulfilled their entire order, so he was stuck with 17,000 unused Euklisia Rugs. Never one to sit idle, he added the Rug to his catalog and marketed it as inexpensive bedding for charities. The Rug gained traction, and it was soon being used by outdoor adventurers in the Australian Outback and the British Army.

https://www.sierra.com/blog/lifestyl...-sleeping-bag/

When I was a kid I invented a Cardiff cream sundae.
You had to use Lowes pop and Thayers ice cream.
PROUD.