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Cardiff Central Train Station Is Crap
Considering the size of cardiff and its commute to work areas , central station is crap and far too small
Other major cities outside of london have large train stations , bristol , newcastle , liverpool , leeds
Cardiff basically has a few platforms and a toilet
Whole thing needs to be enlarged , cardiff is a very fast growing city and the place cant cope
It's no good doing up central square without a new station
Maybe the tories will give the welsh government a load of money as a thank you to all those welsh who voted tory and enable a new station to be built
Or are they just spending money up north ?
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SLUDGE FACTORY
Considering the size of cardiff and its commute to work areas , central station is crap and far too small
Other major cities outside of london have large train stations , bristol , newcastle , liverpool , leeds
Cardiff basically has a few platforms and a toilet
Whole thing needs to be enlarged , cardiff is a very fast growing city and the place cant cope
It's no good doing up central square without a new station
Maybe the tories will give the welsh government a load of money as a thank you to all those welsh who voted tory and enable a new station to be built
Or are they just spending money up north ?
Not sure how spending money on one of the few areas which stayed solid Labour would thank Tory voters
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Cardiff has a train station ???????
Shirley not
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City123
Not sure how spending money on one of the few areas which stayed solid Labour would thank Tory voters
Huge drop in labour vote in wales at last election , if the valleys seats didnt have such a large majority half the country would be blue
Even bridgend went tory
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SLUDGE FACTORY
Huge drop in labour vote in wales at last election , if the valleys seats didnt have such a large majority half the country would be blue
Even bridgend went tory
Read somewhere, that Boris wants to overrule the decision on the M4 Newport relief road !!!!
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BLUETIT
Read somewhere, that Boris wants to overrule the decision on the M4 Newport relief road !!!!
The motorway is clogged
Something needs to be done
I am not sure a relief road is the answer
Plans are to increase train use from the east of cardiff with a new bristol parkway type station
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SLUDGE FACTORY
Huge drop in labour vote in wales at last election , if the valleys seats didnt have such a large majority half the country would be blue
Even bridgend went tory
They don't matter, all that matters are the seats that turned blue, the ones in north Wales. Investing in South East Wales isn't a thank you as they didn't vote Tory, a thank you would be building something in Wrexham
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Central handles 13 to 14 million passengers a year. Far too small. They need to expand into the former Brains site at the back and build some 'dead end' platforms for commuter trains coming in from the west side and free up the 'through' platforms in the main station. Won't happen though.
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-49061910
What happened to this?
Under the impression that this was all financed and part of the metro scheme. They certainly could do with upgrading the ancient trains on the Llantwit to Cardiff run.
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BLUETIT
Cardiff has a train station ???????
Shirley not
Yes next to the bus station
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beakerboyblue
Yes next to the bus station
Er....not any more, it isn't....
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I don't understand why more weren't saying this when the proposal to move the tax office and BBC building to the city centre was first announced? Those extra people coming into town were always either going to i) drive, or ii) get the bus, or iii) get the train but we know that i) roads are already congested before moving these employment hubs and ii) the bus service is expensive and frequently stuck in congested traffic and iii) the train system to the city centre is overcrowded and the largest station in Wales is pretty small really.
Considering where it is there is little room to expand it so maybe best option was building a new one and having two midsize stations in the centre instead? Alternatively, recognising that no option of improving transport links to the city centre and creating another employment hub/several employment hubs around Cardiff.
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surge
I don't understand why more weren't saying this when the proposal to move the tax office and BBC building to the city centre was first announced? Those extra people coming into town were always either going to i) drive, or ii) get the bus, or iii) get the train but we know that i) roads are already congested before moving these employment hubs and ii) the bus service is expensive and frequently stuck in congested traffic and iii) the train system to the city centre is overcrowded and the largest station in Wales is pretty small really.
Considering where it is there is little room to expand it so maybe best option was building a new one and having two midsize stations in the centre instead? Alternatively, recognising that no option of improving transport links to the city centre and creating another employment hub/several employment hubs around Cardiff.
Its sheer stupidity
What on earth does the second rate bbc wales need a new headquarters for and why is it right in the middle of the city ? Same for the new tax office
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tforturton
Er....not any more, it isn't....
Except it should be if it wasn’t for the Labour Party
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the reason for lack of work is down to Westminister not passing over the train tracks in Wales to transport for wales. Was suppose to happen 31 Jan 2020 but not heard it has happened. Think we will see new plans as well
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SLUDGE FACTORY
Considering the size of cardiff and its commute to work areas , central station is crap and far too small
Other major cities outside of london have large train stations , bristol , newcastle , liverpool , leeds
Cardiff basically has a few platforms and a toilet
Whole thing needs to be enlarged , cardiff is a very fast growing city and the place cant cope
It's no good doing up central square without a new station
Maybe the tories will give the welsh government a load of money as a thank you to all those welsh who voted tory and enable a new station to be built
Or are they just spending money up north ?
Everything in the centre of Cardiff other than the Arcades and my beloved Cardiff City is dreadful, poorly managed ,no planning ,very little Independent retailers. Sold our sole to the corporations, top end of St Mary street is a disgrace, Queen Street has been allowed to turn into a poundsvile zone .
Remind me who has been in charge of all this progress.
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life on mars
Everything in the centre of Cardiff other than the Arcades and my beloved Cardiff City is dreadful, poorly managed ,no planning ,very little Independent retailers. Sold our sole to the corporations, top end of St Mary street is a disgrace, Queen Street has been allowed to turn into a poundsvile zone.
No different to most cities, then.
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BLUETIT
Read somewhere, that Boris wants to overrule the decision on the M4 Newport relief road !!!!
Yep.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-wal...in-south-wales
Perhaps we may see red wall Wales move to blue Tory like the shift in the North East of England ,there are similarities to be had in these two regions?
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Eric the Half a Bee
No different to most cities, then.
I've seen a greater independence existing in cities like Bath and Bristol
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life on mars
I've seen a greater independence existing in cities like Bath and Bristol
What like cribs causeway ?
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life on mars
I've seen a greater independence existing in cities like Bath and Bristol
In fairness, Bristol and Bath are more well off and have more affluent surroundings than Cardiff. Some of the top end stores in St Dai's 2 make me wonder if they ever make money.
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life on mars
The racist homophobic leader of the tory party speaking at the welsh tory conference throws out a soundbite
Feck me that's a surprise
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life on mars
In fairness, the Tories have played some blinders in these areas. Councils - cut funding so that people think they're paying more for less and blame the local authorities. BBC - make people think the Beeb are responsible for over 75s losing their free TV licence. They're pretty good at making it look like problems are caused by others.
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SLUDGE FACTORY
What like cribs causeway ?
Central Bristol has many independent music venues, pubs etc. Cribs isn't really classed as a city centre more of a Mall, I visit the City a lot for business and pleasure .
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life on mars
Cuts and lack of investment leading to support for party that has made those political decisions? It could well happen but bit like the bad guy in James Bond who kills people so his newspaper company can get the scoop on it.
There is a sign in Edinburgh that describes forward thinking several decades/hundreds of years ago has ensured city has developed in style that is very attractive to tourists and supports modern day living. Every time there is a new (now empty) "student" block go up makes me think of that sign. A lot of short-term decisions made within past 5-10 years and difficult to say how much is UK government lead and how much is limitation of Cardiff council, certainly there only seems investment in Wales when it benefits Bristol too/more.
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I'm curious that Westminster have delayed passing over the tracks to Transport for Wales because if they do/did so before the new HS2 budget is formally granted then they would be due to pay the Welsh Government money due to rail being (partly) devolved? Maybe they haven't done it on purpose so they get to give even less investment that they already do.
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life on mars
Central Bristol has many independent music venues, pubs etc. Cribs isn't really classed as a city centre more of a Mall, I visit the City a lot for business and pleasure .
If it’s shopping you’re talking about, Bristol City Centre is awful.
Trust me, I live in Bristol and I literally never go there.
We use Cribbs Causeway or Cardiff.
Yes, Queen Street is rotten now, because all the money has gone to The Hays and St. Mary Street has a naff Wetherspoons feel to it, but Cardiff City Centre is still nicer for the chain shops.
As for train stations, whilst Cardiff Central is too small, at least it’s in the right place. Bristol Temple Meads was built in the wrong place and that was when Bristol’s main shopping area was High Street, not Broadmead, which is closer to the station.
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Bristol is more affluent and can support more independent shops.
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I think Queen Street has gone downhill because the whole focus of the city centre has been shifted. Where was the centre in 1970s? Probably the castle end of Queen Street. Where is it now? I'd say the Hayes.
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The Hooded Claw
If it’s shopping you’re talking about, Bristol City Centre is awful.
Trust me, I live in Bristol and I literally never go there.
We use Cribbs Causeway or Cardiff.
Yes, Queen Street is rotten now, because all the money has gone to The Hays and St. Mary Street has a naff Wetherspoons feel to it, but Cardiff City Centre is still nicer for the chain shops.
As for train stations, whilst Cardiff Central is too small, at least it’s in the right place. Bristol Temple Meads was built in the wrong place and that was when Bristol’s main shopping area was High Street, not Broadmead, which is closer to the station.
I like it go at least once or twice a month think the CABOT is a half decent commercial shopping / entertainment/eatery venue , love the many independent pubs , many music venues .
In and around St Nicolas Market is great . lovely outdoor food , cracking pubs down the side of the market try this link :
https://www.yelp.com/search?cflt=pub...ristol+BS1+1TG
Like the Waterfront , roads up to Clifton shops , pubs eateries , outlets alongside the river down the to the Theckla .
I honesty dont get the same vibe in a a day / night out situation in Cardiff and I love my City .
Each to their own I guess :thumbup:
