0-0 so far. Seems strange watching goalkeepers picking up passbacks. Wales looking threatening on the break.
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0-0 so far. Seems strange watching goalkeepers picking up passbacks. Wales looking threatening on the break.
i noticed that!..alsoQuote:
Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee
no players names on shirts
shorts still very short
The Italian club game was dominate with so many top players playing for Italian clubs
Where is this on? Just watched Wales vBelgium Euro 2016 for the umpteenth time. I still have tears in my eyes when I watch it.
Yep would love to win this one against a world champion team ,imagine that 🤔
score flash...Rush has just put wales up 1-0
now if we can only hold on !!!
He's looking sharp I fell of my chair , he could gone on to great things , great atmosphere .Quote:
Originally Posted by blue nun
Nice to see we have multiple forward threats and options
Loving the game. Much comment about it over on Twitter.....
least we forget...Nev was a world class goal keeper
Yes he was and Ratcliffe, Rush, Saunders, Hughes and Giggs were top players. Speed was coming through and Giggs was shortly to emerge yet we still didn’t qualify.Quote:
Originally Posted by blue nun
Why was Peter Shilton the pundit?
Yes, I thought that was a bit odd. Also, how awful were Grahame Lloyd and Leighton James? Lloyd must be one of the worst commentators Welsh football has had. Heard somewhere he didn't get on all that well with the late Phil Suarez.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pearcey3
I'm guessing it was because of the World Cup the year before.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pearcey3
Useful for advice on saving German penalties.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Bloop
as much as it hurts me to say it but they are way behind the current squad for skill and pace.
If we're honest, football in general has moved on so much. Even that German side looked quite ponderous. Arguably one of the greatest advances in the game is fitness. So much of the game is scientific in terms of diet, training etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by valley boy
Yes because he retired after the 1990 World Cup but no Welsh connections at all. Odd.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Bloop
yes i agree with all that. i suppose given all those things most of that squad would cope today. Time moves on and it is games like this that highlights it to us.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee
try watching games from the 70's and 80's on u tube too valley boy to see there,s no comparison to modern football . we've always had discussions on this board about the greatest players but you can't compare from different eras
the same in every sport but I think rugby is a sport where it really hits home the power and pace thats required these days at the top level . a run of the mill club rugby side would smash the great wales sides from the early 70' s etc
i think the modern athlete has reached his/her peak now in terms of power and pace . .Where is top level sport going in the future say in 5 or 10 years time ?
Absolutely.Quote:
Originally Posted by valley boy
I watch old games on Youtube a lot. The pace and organisation isn't what it is nowadays. In a way it all still cancels each other out.
The danger is to look back at the past with rose-tinted glasses. to halyonic days when things were supposedly better, but they weren't really. They were just different.
A genius would be just that in any era as they'd have the same advantages. I don't really understand the point you make, are you saying that Einstein wouldn't be a genius if he was born into our generation, or beethoven, Darwin etc?Quote:
Originally Posted by MOZZER2
Interesting concept. I think they are geniuses of their era. There's no way of proving or disproving whether they'd be geniuses in current timesQuote:
Originally Posted by Tuerto
agree eric they were and still are geniuses from there era in all sports .
in the 80s used to think glen hoddle was the greatest player on earth but would probably struggle to get in spurs 2'nd team these days . no doubt people will say if he was around now he would adapt but we will never know .
Give them today's stricter diet controls, more scientific training methods and better facilities and you never know. I imagine it must be more difficult dribbling a modern football given they are lighter - a heavy touch sees the ball bounce some distance away. Would some of the old dribblers cope as well with lighter balls?Quote:
Originally Posted by MOZZER2
I can't believe what i'm reading. Glenn hoddle could see a pass before most players had even got out of bed and brushed their teeth. If he was playing now then he'd be subject to the same training methods, diet plans, resting periods etc. According to you though, he may not be able to cope.Quote:
Originally Posted by MOZZER2
I'm with you on this Tuerto. I think some are judging those players from 1991 too harshly here. I watched the game on IPlayer last night and something struck me within about fifteen seconds of the game starting when Neville Southall was preparing to kick the ball forward in open play - the pitch may have looked pretty good from a distance, but when Southall bounced the ball, it came up to about two thirds of the height he was obviously expecting it to. Pitches in the nineties were certainly an improvement on those in the decades that preceded them, but they were still some way short of the bowling greens they play on now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tuerto
Also, while I accept that the modern ball is tougher to control in terms of quality of contact, the results are often spectacular when it is done in a manner that is spot on technically. We've been praising Peter Whittingham on here in recent weeks and a lot of that stems from his long range goals and excellent delivery from free kicks and corners. Although not perfect, his technique when striking the ball was better than many Premier League players and you only have to see the mess which is frequently made of things in such cases in top level matches throughout the game to realise that many players' techniques do not stand up to the highest examination.
Players are undoubtedly fitter, better prepared and encouraged more to be creative than they were thirty years ago, but, as long as many of those on the pitch that day were able to live with the demands brought on by those advances, they'd cope fine today.
Yeah agreed. He would be worth an absolute fortune as a player in today’s game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tuerto
Hoddle would be twice the player nowadays than in the 80s.
a nice article in the WOL regarding how rugby has changed over the years. You can apply this too in every contact sport
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/...ayers-10376705
That article is just reinforcing what i and others are saying. Players aren't behaving in the way that they did 30 years ago-shock-Horror! Are you saying that a modern day Bobby Charlton, with the advantage of medicine, Science, Living standards, dietary needs, training methods etc, wouldn't get into the Manchester United team of today-Are you really saying that?Quote:
Originally Posted by MOZZER2
Anyone know if there is another Wales game being shown today?
BBC Wales, at that stage, rarely showed international football games. Note also their use of words like "soccer". "Football" was preceded by the word "rugby". Our sport was "soccer". It has changed now, but the sport was treated with disdain by BBC Wales at the time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee
I remember being annoyed by Shilton being in the studio. I badly wanted to go to that game, but we couldn't afford it.
Just checked, they're showing the Wales v Ireland Grand Slam winning game in 2005 this afternoon, but no football.Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
Only BBC Wales is showing Rugby. The other BBC regions are showing highlights from 4 World Cup games. There will undoubtedly be an England bias but it may be better than nothing.
You can also watch Wales V Belgium from Euro 2016 Qualifying on the FAW Facebook page at 3pm -https://www.faw.cymru/en/news/faw-re...ying-campaign/