They played for dirty money in sun city , south africa

Shirley Bassey

Elton John

Queen

Status Quo

Sabbath bloody sabbath !

Ray Charles

KC and the sunshine

Frank Sinatra

There are many many more corporate whores who despite musicians union directives chased the money and played sun city

I find the inclusion of ray charles staggering but there you go

It always makes my blood boil when I hear Brian May pontificating on animal rights, shame he didn’t have the same concerns for millions of South Africans.

The Kinks turned it down.

Rod Stewart is another cuunt who played there.

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I find the inclusion of ray charles staggering but there you go

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George Benson.

But a lot of people went there when apartheid was the accepted status quo (Excuse the musical pun) so it wasn't seen as so bad as it is now in hindsight.
Plus of course there were parts of the USA that in reality weren't much better but still accepted.

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But a lot of people went there when apartheid was the accepted status quo (Excuse the musical pun) so it wasn't seen as so bad as it is now in hindsight.
Plus of course there were parts of the USA that in reality weren't much better but still accepted.

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When was this time? The time when apartheid was seen as OK? When a world pariah state based on institutionalised racism was just the way it is? When artistes without the benefit of hindsight should be cut a bit of slack for chasing the rand when they couldn't (really couldn't) have known better? Really?

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When was this time? The time when apartheid was seen as OK? When a world pariah state based on institutionalised racism was just the way it is? When artistes without the benefit of hindsight should be cut a bit of slack for chasing the rand when they couldn't (really couldn't) have known better? Really?

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When they were still playing international sport when their government was still recognised all over the world. You may not like it but it was so and all the outrage in the world won't change it.

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It always makes my blood boil when I hear Brian May pontificating on animal rights, shame he didn’t have the same concerns for millions of South Africans.

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Yeah he can do one

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When they were still playing international sport when their government was still recognised all over the world. You may not like it but it was so and all the outrage in the world won't change it.

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The musicians union made it clear they fell in line with un sanction directives . Those that played knew exactly what they were doing . They were propping up apartheid.

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Shirley Bassey

Elton John

Queen

Status Quo

Sabbath bloody sabbath !

Ray Charles

KC and the sunshine

Frank Sinatra

There are many many more corporate whores who despite musicians union directives chased the money and played sun city

I find the inclusion of ray charles staggering but there you go

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To be fair to Ray, his manager probably told him he was playing in London

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The musicians union made it clear they fell in line with un sanction directives . Those that played knew exactly what they were doing . They were propping up apartheid.

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Did they? So why didn't the remove their musicians union accreditation, then they wouldn't have been able to play anywhere else?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aopKk56jM-I
Artists United Against Apartheid - Sun City

One movie where i cried quite uncontrollable as young teenager was Cry Freedom, that end scene was ****ing gruesome!

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To be fair to Ray, his manager probably told him he was playing in London

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Ouch!

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When they were still playing international sport when their government was still recognised all over the world. You may not like it but it was so and all the outrage in the world won't change it.

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They were banned form most international sport from c1970 til 1990s!

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Shirley Bassey



I find the inclusion of ray charles staggering but there you go

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Why single out Ray? Tina Turner and Dionne Warwick also played Sun City!

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:hehe:

One of Ray's best.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQXsM1l2wZ8

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Why single out Ray? Tina Turner and Dionne Warwick also played Sun City!

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So did our very own shirley bassey of Nigerian heritage , which is why I mentioned her

Theres loads more

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It always makes my blood boil when I hear Brian May pontificating on animal rights, shame he didn’t have the same concerns for millions of South Africans.

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And shame he turned a blind eye to some of Mercury's antics.

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So did our very own shirley bassey of Nigerian heritage , which is why I mentioned her

Theres loads more

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You're becoming the Victor Meldrew of CCMB!

I realise you're frustrated by the dearth of boilers at secluded laybys and car parks for you to arse end, but come on, stop moaning.

Invite that piece with the wonky eye who used to work at the butcher's around for a game of nude Monopoly.

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When they were still playing international sport when their government was still recognised all over the world. You may not like it but it was so and all the outrage in the world won't change it.

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Except it did

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But a lot of people went there when apartheid was the accepted status quo (Excuse the musical pun) so it wasn't seen as so bad as it is now in hindsight.
Plus of course there were parts of the USA that in reality weren't much better but still accepted.

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The UN blacklisted Queen for playing there and the anti-apartheid movement was well underway, Sun City was built in 1979 and negotiations to end apartheid began just 11 years later.

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The UN blacklisted Queen for playing there and the anti-apartheid movement was well underway, Sun City was built in 1979 and negotiations to end apartheid began just 11 years later.

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Is that the same queen who sang the signature song for the Barcelona olympics in 1992?

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Is that the same queen who sang the signature song for the Barcelona olympics in 1992?

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No it isn't as Queen didn't sing Barcelona

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No it isn't as Queen didn't sing Barcelona

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Do you think he killed jill dando ?

Or was that the bloke that dressed up like him ?

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Freddie Mercury sang for the barcelona olympics and the queen record made a fortune in the charts on the back of it. But hey the UN Sanction doesn't count for the Olympics does it?

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Freddie Mercury sang for the barcelona olympics and the queen record made a fortune in the charts on the back of it. But hey the UN Sanction doesn't count for the Olympics does it?

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Clearly not seeing as they are separate organisations. Still not Queen, and I'd imagine it also has something to do with Mercury's well documented battle with AIDS and how his story would fit well with the Olympic ideal of triumphing through adversity etc. It still doesn't disprove the point that one of the bands who played Sun City were blacklisted by the UN, I can't see how that shows that people were fine with it as you seem to claim

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Clearly not seeing as they are separate organisations. Still not Queen, and I'd imagine it also has something to do with Mercury's well documented battle with AIDS and how his story would fit well with the Olympic ideal of triumphing through adversity etc. It still doesn't disprove the point that one of the bands who played Sun City were blacklisted by the UN, I can't see how that shows that people were fine with it as you seem to claim

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Shirley a UN Sanction would cover all other organisations wouldn't it? Did you you just assume the aids link or have you got some documentary linkage?
I have no feelings about these performers one way or the other but people must have been fine with it or it wouldn't have happened would it?

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And shame he turned a blind eye to some of Mercury's antics.

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What antics would they be?

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To be fair to Ray, his manager probably told him he was playing in London

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You don't think that he turned a blind eye then?

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You don't think that he turned a blind eye then?

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lol you'll be stoned you know. You must take this outrage seriously, even if it is over 30 years too late.

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But a lot of people went there when apartheid was the accepted status quo (Excuse the musical pun) so it wasn't seen as so bad as it is now in hindsight.
Plus of course there were parts of the USA that in reality weren't much better but still accepted.

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An arsehole as well as being thick, what a surprise.

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lol you'll be stoned you know. You must take this outrage seriously, even if it is over 30 years too late.

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Whoooooosh

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An arsehole as well as being thick, what a surprise.

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More insults, just because you disagree with what is said.
you really are a keyboard warrior aren't you? so tough.
I think you're following me, your a troll.

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More insults, just because you disagree with what is said.
you really are a keyboard warrior aren't you? so tough.
I think you're following me, your a troll.

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What you said makes you a thick arse hole, sorry if that offends you.

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What you said makes you a thick arse hole, sorry if that offends you.

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Why? Does it offend your inclusive sensibilities, you poor lamb?

You are a keyboard warrior.