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Prime Minister's statement was long on huff, puff, procrastination, and exaggerated hand movements.
The bright spot for lockdown fans was his enthusiasm for maintaining social distancing. I suppose some larger pubs and restaurants will be able to open in the months/years/decades ahead with a massively reduced number of patrons which would no doubt be reflected in the prices they charge for them to turn a profit.
Attending mass gatherings at football matches, as an example, can never return until COVID-19 related deaths fall to nil for an extended period.
Stay alert. Take amphetimine.
Ohh be careful
mind how you go
be lucky
Thanks Boris
Hold on a minute , correct me if I am wrong but were you not calling out junkies yesterday ?
So it's ok for you to take whizz , which can cause psychosis and paranoia by the way , and severe anxiety ......maybe we have found your problem .........but people who take cocaine , another drug that can cause paranoia, are junkies ?
But it doesn't matter because you did it in the past ?
Now I could deal with you arguing the toss about responsibility and clean living and the menace of junkies but here you are saying you took it up the nose?
Whichever way you slice it , you are talking in riddles
I am sure you will come back with some nonsense but I am afraid it's irrelevant now
I was a recreational drug user and all drugs paid for by myself.
Didn’t beg or steal to pay for junk.
Didn’t hide behind a plethora of blame everyonelse excuses for my recreational drug use, alcohol abuse or gambling addictions. Still held down a job and by the skin of my teeth a family but then I take ownership for my problems. Self inflicted. Own them, park them, move onward, can’t keep dwelling on the past you’ll never move forward. My own theory. A better theory than anything I received from the MIND counsellor but that’s another story.
I don’t need apologists like you telling me “it’s not your fault, it’s an illness, were you abused as a child?” No I wasn’t, I enjoyed them and I was selfish.
Anyway, stop doing a Dembe with me and keep it all in one thread you absolute danger.
If you are of a certain age, I’m sure you could have got heavily involved in the rave scene around 1992, the party lasted about 20 years for me. It was very good fun albeit with some very dark tuesdays thrown in to balance it out. I’m just about alright, sort of.....
So recreational drug use is ok but those people who have an addictive personality and go on to develop a habit or those who were abused as kids and take drugs to escape the horror of what they went through are just useless junkies ?
That's clearly your view , as expressed on here and as you say you are clearly a selfish , hedonistic individual whose drug use has cost the NHS money in treating you . Unless your struggles were not that big and if you treated anxiety and depression through self help , they clearly were not . You dont get better from disabling and in your case , drug induced anxiety and depression from a few visits to MIND , a salad a day and some yoga . And stiff upper lip .
Yes same. The party only ended about 3 years ago and I’m 44 this year. Penny dropped later than it should have looking back and it’s caused some mental illness but I wouldn’t change it. It was a good ride and now onto the next chapter. Curbed the drugs, curbed the gambling, now drink is my only vice, still a bit too much at times but I’ve got to have some release, when I get stressed / anxious is when I am at my most dangerous of slipping into old habits.
Don’t patronise me on mental health. Not that I need to explain myself to you but I was suicidal to the point of planning my own death to look like an accident rather than suicide so my wife and children would still get my death in service and life insurance. Thankfully I got better. Through some medication (I pay my taxes. You don’t like if? Tough)? and the gym and with no thanks to the useless money grabbing swizzlers at MIND I may add.
And you don’t need to patronise me on addiction either. I’m an addict. A gambling addict. I don’t however blame it on Illness and or whatever bullshit you come up with to excuse poor behaviour. Take some responsibility for your addictions is what I say. No excuses. Own it. 57 days today I haven’t gambled. Tomorrow will be 58 if I get through it. If I don’t it will be my fault no one else’s.
The Rave scene was great :thumbup: we must be a similar age and did the same things back in the early 90's, i must admit, it didnt last 20 years for me though, i started to pee blood and i knew it was time to jack it in, I couldnt ditch my mates as they were my mates, but they were getting worse and worse, so i thought i better find a girl and settle down, i did, funny enough i then got into body building ( but clean body building was hard graft, so i jacked that in )
i drifted from relationship to relationship ( around the world ) till i met my wife :thumbup:
i never had dark tuesdays, just constantly on it, i was wired 7 days a week :angry:
Im just fine, though i guess i just hit it hard for a few years and stopped, i know plenty who carried on for longer and are damaged goods now
And yes Sludge, those who beg, rob and steal to pay for their habit are junkies. A drain on society.
I think a lot of us born in the early to mid 70’s were part of the rave scene of the late 80’s/ early 90’s.
I can’t think of many friends who didn’t dabble with Ecstasy, Speed or Acid.
One of the biggest mistakes I ever made was taking Acid...I’ve simply not not the mental constitution for it.
It was horrible but I’m lucky enough to have lived and learned even though the year after was a massive struggle with my Mental Health afterwards.
I should have known better than to do it in the first place even though friends of mine loved and advocated it.
A Heroin lifestyle seems to be a different choice, intentionally getting out of it rather than “upping” yourself to have fun.
Both are very very dangerous in their own ways as is alcohol.
We do make our own beds, but circumstances and poor choices are certainly a factor in how we do it and how well it is made.
It was a way of life. I know people from all sorts of backgrounds who are / were involved with recreational drugs or hard drugs. Some of the worst heroin / crack addicts I know come from well to do family’s and good homes.
This notion that all heroin or crack addicts have a horrific back story and are just using drugs as an escape to block it out is poppycock and the sort of text book bullshit that people who’ve never used drugs or experienced that lifestyle come out with. There are some victims of course there are but there are many more out there playing the victim and are conniving scum bags. Telling these people they are not to blame and excusing their actions (muggings, burglary) just seems to be the go to excuse to plead for leniency for their wrong doings.
I can’t disagree.
Once certain drugs become a lifestyle, help is difficult to offer after a certain amount of times of being burned.
My cousin who was and still is deep down a lovely lad.
Succumbed and now his kids who were born addicted to heroin and have their struggles while my Uncle has tried in vain to help, where he really should have no business trying to do so at his age.
Sounds like you are doing well JR, I good mate of mine is a gambler, I even lived with him for two years when he was in the thick of it and he managed to hide it. He knows he will be one forever but runs his own business now has a family, got rid of his debts (40k at one point) and is good these days. I always remember him telling how sometimes it would just overcome him, driving back to wales from a job with two grand on him, next thing he knew he had pulled over at a pub or bookies, all cash gone and he was back sitting in his car in tears......
It was prob more like 15 but 92-2002 were full on, managed to curb it somewhat after 2005, got married in 2008 and had basically just had enough, kids a few years later. Different life which I love. Not that I didn’t enjoy partying but there’s a point when you realise you are not 24 and have to move on. Not that some of my mates have, they still love the powder in there mid 40’s, some will never change and have no kids to snap them out of it.
You have to have a strong mind to be able to deal with acid, it’s another level. A good few will never be the same again after it and no doubts it can change your brain forever. Looking back, god knows what I was thinking but as they say, everyone was doing it. Lots came dependant on other things after doing it, booze, weed mainly, but a few got into the brown and never came back.......
Cheers
Yeah, 6 months since I had a serious bump in the road (November 6th) but in the main, touch wood, in the last 3 years there have been very few bumps.
Have a fiver on the football on a Saturday only now just for a bit of interest. Thats why I know how long its been as its been 8 weeks since the National League last played. :hehe: I havent been tempted to bet anything else which is good. Some boys I know are gambling on russian table tennis and people playing FIFA against each other to get their fix. :hehe:
Just keep away from the roulette wheel. Ironically ive always been good with money and im not daft, but put me in front of a roullette wheel and all sense out of the window. Chase, chase, chase.
Been working for the last 4 years on bringing the debt down, will be another 3 providing I dont have many serious bumps and I should finally have the weight off my shoulders.
Gambling is easier to hide than drugs or alcohol but its mentally exhausting.
Addiction is an illness , like mental illness and indeed most people with a substance misuse problem have a dual diagnosis of a mental health problem
So far you have mentioned drugs , alcohol and gambling , that's three
A few days ago, and consistently since you have suggested I am an apologist for junkies and addicts committing crime
So what are you ? Are you still a junkie , are you still an alcoholic ?
Or have you recovered and that now gives you the right to forget your own demons and pontificate on the lifestyle and health of others ?
Because I think that's double standards
Oh I am unwell , I need help , the doctor gives you medication and you stop drinking , gambling and using drugs
And then once you are well the rules dont apply to you and people who have serious mental illness and use drugs are junkies ?
Maybe this woman was just a weekend dabber like you but she had a severe underlying psychosis that was triggered by recreational powder use?
I think you need to have a look at yourself , you dont like being questioned about your own lifestyle but are happy to make judgement on others .
It doesn't work like that .
Question my lifestyle as much as you want, I havent forgotten my demons, they very much live with me but I take full ownership for my own issues. I dont need an apologist like you telling me its an illness and to just do as I damn well please to feed my addiction as its not my fault. It is my fault, we have choices. I choose to take drugs, I choose to throw away thousands of pounds , no-one made me do it.
I was unwell long before the gambling addiction took a grip. Been taking anti depressents for 13 years. In some respects they didnt help with the gambling as they make you not give a shit, living in a bubble, hence why I tried to come off them too quickly last year and ended up having a breakdown, didnt taper long enough.
And yes I will have an opinion on junkies because I didnt rob and threaten others to feed my addiction and hide behind the excuses people like you make for them. You seem to think they can do as they damn well please because theyve got "issues".
For people with mental health issues that are not as a result of any self harm then they have my full empathy, but this notion of yours that everyone with issues has some heartbreaking back story is nonsense.
I was never an alcoholic by the way. Drink more than I should? Yes, as do most people, but never alcohol dependant.
If you want to keep doing this Sludge, start a thread in the alternative forum. Im not having this argument with you across multiple threads like you did with Dembe.
Wonder if media and plebs will conveniently fail to understand Macron's slogan, which translates as ""save lives, stay cautious".
WHAT DOES CAUTIOUS MEAN???????????
[QUOTE=J R Hartley;5075771]Question my lifestyle as much as you want, I havent forgotten my demons, they very much live with me but I take full ownership for my own issues. I dont need an apologist like you telling me its an illness and to just do as I damn well please to feed my addiction as its not my fault. It is my fault, we have choices. I choose to take drugs, I choose to throw away thousands of pounds , no-one made me do it.
I was unwell long before the gambling addiction took a grip. Been taking anti depressents for 13 years. In some respects they didnt help with the gambling as they make you not give a shit, living in a bubble, hence why I tried to come off them too quickly last year and ended up having a breakdown, didnt taper long enough.
And yes I will have an opinion on junkies because I didnt rob and threaten others to feed my addiction and hide behind the excuses people like you make for them. You seem to think they can do as they damn well please because theyve got "issues".
For people with mental health issues that are not as a result of any self harm then they have my full empathy, but this notion of yours that everyone with issues has some heartbreaking back story is nonsense.
I was never an alcoholic by the way. Drink more than I should?
Either you have had mental health problems that have required medical help , or you havnt
Either you have had gambling problems that have required specialist help , or you havnt
Either you accept addiction is an illness or you dont
I personally think you should get some therapy as despite having experienced , so you say , addiction and mental health problems , you have very little empathy for those still do .
I am off to look at pictures of men in black leather playing guitars
I think I am addicted
Oh there we go the paedophile gag
I think that sums you up
You definitely have psychological issues and you clearly havnt dealt with the ones you already had if that's your response
I shall depart now , you clearly have some deep seated stuff to work on
Good luck