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10-05-20, 20:43
Philbccfc

Go back to work

with non family members , as many as you like , keeping 2mtrs apart obviously, play tennis (if that's your want) but only with members of your household. does this fking government actually know what they are doing.
10-05-20, 20:44
adz-a32

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Originally Posted by Philbccfc

with non family members , as many as you like , keeping 2mtrs apart obviously, play tennis (if that's your want) but only with members of your household. does this fking government actually know what they are doing.

Nope
10-05-20, 20:48
xsnaggle

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Originally Posted by Philbccfc

with non family members , as many as you like , keeping 2mtrs apart obviously, play tennis (if that's your want) but only with members of your household. does this fking government actually know what they are doing.

When dic the government say that? :shrug:
10-05-20, 20:51
Philbccfc

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tonight,
10-05-20, 20:52
Philbccfc

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Explaining how things will change from Wednesday, he added: "You can sit in the sun in your local park, you can drive to other destinations, you can even play sports but only with members of your own household
10-05-20, 20:53
Croesy Blue

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Maddest thing out of it for me was go back to work tomorrow, thanks for the 12 hours notice pal!
10-05-20, 20:55
MOZZER2

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been working since the lock down acting on public health england/wales guidelines to safe guard your health so nothing new here and lots of people been doing the same in construction and manufacturing

don't want to speak for the whole government but our current PM is the worse in my lifetime
10-05-20, 21:00
xsnaggle

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Originally Posted by Philbccfc

tonight,

no they didn't.
10-05-20, 21:00
J R Hartley

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Worked from home for first 2 weeks of lockdown but been back in the office since. Glad to go to work. Working from home wasn’t for me. Especially when the missus also started to work from home the 2nd week I was off.

I only live a 15 minute walk so offered to work fron home and not go on the work from home rota. Same for another local lad. The other 2 happy to work from home as ones asthmatic and the other travels from Cardiff so saves himself a few quid in fuel. Team player me. :hehe:
10-05-20, 22:10
CCFCC3PO

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Originally Posted by Croesy Blue

Maddest thing out of it for me was go back to work tomorrow, thanks for the 12 hours notice pal!

:hehe:
10-05-20, 23:43
Pedro de la Rosa

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Originally Posted by Philbccfc

with non family members , as many as you like , keeping 2mtrs apart obviously, play tennis (if that's your want) but only with members of your household. does this fking government actually know what they are doing.

Just stay alert. If you see a giant ball of virus coming towards you, duck and cover.
11-05-20, 05:33
Organ Morgan.

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Government will have to modify its public health advice following Johnson's statement last night.

Anyone can get it, becomes: anyone can get it except for tennis players, sunbathers, builders and other workers who should return to work from tomorrow because then they will develop natural immunity.

Anyone can spread it, now reads: anyone can spread it therefore we want a great many more to have the opportunity to do so.

If you go out, you can spread it. People will die, switches to: If you go out, you can spread it. People will die, and we no longer give a shit.

https://news.images.itv.com/image/fi...stream_img.jpg
11-05-20, 06:31
Taunton Blue Genie

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Am I confused or have you swung from criticising the government for the unnecessary lockdown to criticising them for loosening the lockdown guidelines?
11-05-20, 06:41
lardy

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Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie

Am I confused or have you swung from criticising the government for the unnecessary lockdown to criticising them for loosening the lockdown guidelines?

We are at war with Eastasia. We have always been at war with Eastasia.
11-05-20, 06:57
Baloo

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If you find the words confusing just remember red = stop, green = go. :shrug:

Attachment 3815
11-05-20, 07:37
Taunton Blue Genie

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Originally Posted by lardy

We are at war with Eastasia. We have always been at war with Eastasia.

Indeed - and I never got a response to the question I asked three times regarding the swing from one conspiracy theory to another one. I'm not sure why we bother with some people as they can't see their own inconsistencies and 180 degree swings. It's obviously a very strong form of denial.
11-05-20, 07:55
The Lone Gunman

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Originally Posted by Organ Morgan.

Government will have to modify its public health advice following Johnson's statement last night.

The events of the last few days must have been a considerable blow to the conspiracy theorists. After all, it's now been very clearly demonstrated that the political leaders in three countries on one small island can't agree on a coherent policy to deal with Covid-19, let alone the political leaders all over the globe.

Looks like none of them got the memo from the controlling elite......
11-05-20, 08:28
lardy

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Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie

Indeed - and I never got a response to the question I asked three times regarding the swing from one conspiracy theory to another one. I'm not sure why we bother with some people as they can't see their own inconsistencies and 180 degree swings. It's obviously a very strong form of denial.

Its definitely a 180 swing. Organ has said all along he wants people to make their own decisions. That is the crux of what Boris said - you can go out but it's your responsibility.
11-05-20, 08:29
Croesy Blue

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Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman

The events of the last few days must have been a considerable blow to the conspiracy theorists. After all, it's now been very clearly demonstrated that the political leaders in three countries on one small island can't agree on a coherent policy to deal with Covid-19, let alone the political leaders all over the globe.

Looks like none of them got the memo from the controlling elite......

All part of the plan I bet :hehe:
11-05-20, 08:30
Heisenberg

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Originally Posted by lardy

Its definitely a 180 swing. Organ has said all along he wants people to make their own decisions. That is the crux of what Boris said - you can go out but it's your responsibility.

Yep, he was banging on about us being in quarantine yesterday and on Friday night. He must be massively pissed off that the narrative has changed again to oppose what he says is happening :hehe:
11-05-20, 08:31
Organ Morgan.

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It's the social distancing measure that's the keystone.

It's the equivalent of perpetual war in Orwell's 1984. It'll ensure this COVID-19 affair will never achieve an end date.
11-05-20, 08:37
lardy

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Originally Posted by Organ Morgan.

It's the social distancing measure that's the keystone.

It's the equivalent of perpetual war in Orwell's 1984. It'll ensure this COVID-19 affair will never achieve an end date.

I bet you wish your previous posts went in the memory hole :hehe:
11-05-20, 08:44
Croesy Blue

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Originally Posted by Organ Morgan.

It's the social distancing measure that's the keystone.

It's the equivalent of perpetual war in Orwell's 1984. It'll ensure this COVID-19 affair will never achieve an end date.

Fine for those of us without Asian lungs since it doesn't affect us anyway
11-05-20, 08:45
IanD

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Originally Posted by Organ Morgan.

It's the social distancing measure that's the keystone.

It's the equivalent of perpetual war in Orwell's 1984. It'll ensure this COVID-19 affair will never achieve an end date.

A bit like flu, the common cold and STDs then. Something we have to live with. So long as the virus doesnt mutate far more quickly that than any vaccination can keep up with.
11-05-20, 08:48
the other bob wilson

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Originally Posted by Organ Morgan.

It's the social distancing measure that's the keystone.

It's the equivalent of perpetual war in Orwell's 1984. It'll ensure this COVID-19 affair will never achieve an end date.

So, are you arguing for herd immunity at a time when I don't believe that it's been proved conclusively that you are immune once you've had the virus or have I misunderstood you?
11-05-20, 08:53
IanD

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Originally Posted by Baloo

If you find the words confusing just remember red = stop, green = go. :shrug:

Attachment 3815

The government's new Covid alert levels, one to five, has been copied almost directly from Nandos' Peri-ometer!
We are currently on medium hot.
11-05-20, 08:57
Heisenberg

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

So, are you arguing for herd immunity at a time when I don't believe that it's been proved conclusively that you are immune once you've had the virus or have I misunderstood you?

Rule No. 1: Never ask Organ what he's arguing. He doesn't know.

Social distancing could be removed entirely next week and he would move on to how something else is the problem.
11-05-20, 09:05
Organ Morgan.

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

So, are you arguing for herd immunity at a time when I don't believe that it's been proved conclusively that you are immune once you've had the virus or have I misunderstood you?

I used to argue for that, Bobsy. But I now go with the flow, when in Rome and other cliches of that nature.

Besides, I've adapted very well to the new normal and have accepted it is here to stay.
11-05-20, 09:14
goats

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

So, are you arguing for herd immunity at a time when I don't believe that it's been proved conclusively that you are immune once you've had the virus or have I misunderstood you?

They are pretty sure you can’t get it again....I posted something about it the other day, not conclusive yet as nothing can be, but people who have had it do carry the antibody from having it which should protect them from it again. Flu mutates a bit every year also but these viruses have never changed much, thank god. I suspect working on these and being prepared for the next one will be a huge industry for the next decade.
11-05-20, 09:22
Heisenberg

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https://youtu.be/Mtiqf2q8-uM

:hehe:
11-05-20, 09:23
Croesy Blue

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Originally Posted by goats

They are pretty sure you can’t get it again....I posted something about it the other day, not conclusive yet as nothing can be, but people who have had it do carry the antibody from having it which should protect them from it again. Flu mutates a bit every year also but these viruses have never changed much, thank god. I suspect working on these and being prepared for the next one will be a huge industry for the next decade.

I don't think they are pretty sure you can't get it agian are they? I'm not sure what the current thinking is but the WHO said a week or 2 ago that there is no evidence yet to say you are immune.
11-05-20, 10:14
the other bob wilson

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Originally Posted by goats

They are pretty sure you can’t get it again....I posted something about it the other day, not conclusive yet as nothing can be, but people who have had it do carry the antibody from having it which should protect them from it again. Flu mutates a bit every year also but these viruses have never changed much, thank god. I suspect working on these and being prepared for the next one will be a huge industry for the next decade.

But, if you are going to start planning ahead on the grounds that people who have had the virus won't catch it again, you need to have something more than "pretty sure" to back you up before deciding to embark on such a course.

I think I'm right in saying that the number of people who have tested positive twice some time apart is very small in percentage terms and I understand there are always some who have done this historically, but there are still a minority who have done so and this, surely, has to be investigated.

I was listening to a British born person who is high up in the WHO on the radio this morning and he said that we do not know yet whether people will be immune once they've had it.

Incredibly. it would appear that those who were advising the Government and were, seemingly, advocating a herd immunity approach were doing so on the basis of assuming people would be immune.
11-05-20, 10:57
trampie09

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

But, if you are going to start planning ahead on the grounds that people who have had the virus won't catch it again, you need to have something more than "pretty sure" to back you up before deciding to embark on such a course.

I think I'm right in saying that the number of people who have tested positive twice some time apart is very small in percentage terms and I understand there are always some who have done this historically, but there are still a minority who have done so and this, surely, has to be investigated.

I was listening to a British born person who is high up in the WHO on the radio this morning and he said that we do not know yet whether people will be immune once they've had it.

Incredibly. it would appear that those who were advising the Government and were, seemingly, advocating a herd immunity approach were doing so on the basis of assuming people would be immune.

Good post Bob.
11-05-20, 12:07
delmbox

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

But, if you are going to start planning ahead on the grounds that people who have had the virus won't catch it again, you need to have something more than "pretty sure" to back you up before deciding to embark on such a course.

I think I'm right in saying that the number of people who have tested positive twice some time apart is very small in percentage terms and I understand there are always some who have done this historically, but there are still a minority who have done so and this, surely, has to be investigated.

I was listening to a British born person who is high up in the WHO on the radio this morning and he said that we do not know yet whether people will be immune once they've had it.

Incredibly. it would appear that those who were advising the Government and were, seemingly, advocating a herd immunity approach were doing so on the basis of assuming people would be immune.

Stop being so negative, goats's "they are pretty sure you can't get it again" is enough for me. Onwards!
11-05-20, 13:05
goats

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

But, if you are going to start planning ahead on the grounds that people who have had the virus won't catch it again, you need to have something more than "pretty sure" to back you up before deciding to embark on such a course.

I think I'm right in saying that the number of people who have tested positive twice some time apart is very small in percentage terms and I understand there are always some who have done this historically, but there are still a minority who have done so and this, surely, has to be investigated.

I was listening to a British born person who is high up in the WHO on the radio this morning and he said that we do not know yet whether people will be immune once they've had it.

Incredibly. it would appear that those who were advising the Government and were, seemingly, advocating a herd immunity approach were doing so on the basis of assuming people would be immune.

I’ll find the report I was reading, think it was from South Korea. They thought initially that people had caught it again after testing positive, but that wasn’t the case, it was just the antibodys showing up from previous infection, which the6 were very pleased to note because If it anyway similar to other Coronavirus it should give you immunity for some time.
11-05-20, 13:05
goats

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Originally Posted by delmbox

Stop being so negative, goats's "they are pretty sure you can't get it again" is enough for me. Onwards!

Crack on...thank me later
11-05-20, 13:27
J R Hartley

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Originally Posted by goats

I’ll find the report I was reading, think it was from South Korea. They thought initially that people had caught it again after testing positive, but that wasn’t the case, it was just the antibodys showing up from previous infection, which the6 were very pleased to note because If it anyway similar to other Coronavirus it should give you immunity for some time.

I heard that on the radio that the second cases were not as first feared
11-05-20, 13:40
xsnaggle

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Originally Posted by J R Hartley

I heard that on the radio that the second cases were not as first feared

I heard or read somewhere that those who tested positive after already having the virus were retested and showed negative, implying the original post infection test had either been faulty or incorrectly garnered.
But it still needs to be investigated more thoroughly.
Also I have still heard nothing further about the use of blood plasma from survivors to treat people in hospital. Anyone have news on that?

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