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bought an album by the butthole surfers many years ago , the front cover is painting done in prison by John Wayne Gacy , th American serial killer thought to have raped and murdered at least 33 young men in the seventies .
Only just started reading about him .
Had a tough upbringing .
But some of the stuff he got up to was truly horrific
Probably best not to read this before you go to bed .
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Wayne_Gacy
that was a deeply unpleasant read.
interesting that they list his political affiliation on his Wikipedia entry - as though that had any bearing on his crimes. I guess everything is politicised in the states.
Its shocking isn't itQuote:
Originally Posted by Rjk
People throw around the term psycho or nutter or madman or schizo with no idea what they are talking about
His poor upbringing undoubtedly led to him being the person he was
A person who hears voices telling them to kill people is ill with schizophrenia
Gacy was clearly a psychopath , he was evil , he enjoyed stalking , hunting , raping and killing people . If he were alive today he would have recorded the killing and raping of his victims .
You can treat psychosis and schizophrenia , you can't treat a psychopath
so many of these type of cases that have a really traumatic childhood.
I can remember a case a few years ago where 2 brothers had brutally assaulted 2 other kids leaving them hospitalised but fortunately they survived. during the trial the kids were completely emotionless when talking about the assault, and were mimicking their fathers voice when talking about it. but as soon as anyone mentioned their father's abuse against them they immediately broke down in tears and were two little boys again.
They say Hitler was abusedQuote:
Originally Posted by Rjk
Definitely a psychopath at first
Then on so much pain killing medicine he went into paranoia
"Daddy?"Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
"Yes, son?"
"W-w-w-what does regret mean?"
"Well, son...a funny thing about regret is that it's better to regret something you _have_ done, instead of something you _haven't_ done. And if you see your mom this weekend, be sure and tell her...SATAN!!! SATAN!!! SATAN!!!"
I went to a museum once called Little Dean Jail - there are no words to describe just how deeply strange this place is. But among the collection of curiosities are a series of paintings by Charles Bronson (prisoner not actor) and a collection of letters and mix tapes by Peter Sutcliffe. There is something so revealing and unsettling about knowing what tunes a serial killer is into.
Manson : Helter SkelterQuote:
Originally Posted by PhyllisStant
Also hitler as a young man served in the great war, and his battalion were absolutely decimated in "the Ypres massacre of the innocents", there's no telling what seeing that kind of carnage up close does to someone who has already had a abusive childhood. Must have been horriffic for those young soldiers on both sides.Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
Its not an excuse of course, as the vast majority of people who have these awful upbringings don't go on to do these things thankfully
Jello Biafra from the dead Kennedys on lead vocals lolQuote:
Originally Posted by life on mars
Classic stuff
very compelling isn't itQuote:
Originally Posted by PhyllisStant
I am into sabbath , godfesh , slayer , black metal etc but I am not a serial killer
But denis neilson ? Jazz and classical music
can you imagine surviving stalingrad then coming home ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Rjk
And a lot of speed.Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
I've read that Hitler served well and enjoyed fighting in WW1. Apparently, he never got over the defeat and especially the terms of the treaty of Versailles.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rjk
Same here. And I say that as someone who got an A in A Level History despite not doing it GCSE so academically I'm unquestionable.Quote:
Originally Posted by NYCBlue
Sludge, have you heard Sufjan Steven’s ‘John Wayne Gaby Jr.’? Maybe not heavy enough for your good self but haunting nevertheless.Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=otx49Ko3fxw
I see he was a Jaycee, which is a stomping ground for future presidents, and there was quite a bit of debauchery going on by the sounds of things.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rjk
Very haunting indeedQuote:
Originally Posted by Shep Proudfoot
I got a merit in the A level History special paper.Quote:
Originally Posted by delmbox
So there!
(Oh alright I got a B in the actual paper)
Ted Bundy
What on earth went on in his life
Complete psychopath
Ted Bundy
Complete psychopath
No feelings whatsoever for the women he raped , beat to death and would return to have six with them until they were too decomposed
Broke out of custody twice
At least 35 victims , police think double or maybe three times that , others think could be in the hundreds
Got married to a woman halfway through his trial
Found guilty, managed to have sex with her in prison
After his execution hundreds of women went to their doctors for help with depression after 5hey had been writing to him in prison and they fell in love despite knowing he had raped , murdered and had s3x with dead women
Off his potty
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Bundy
Does that make me unquestionable?Quote:
Originally Posted by delmbox
Gibby is pretty normal these days. I've met him a few times and and I'm good friends with his brother. But I must say, that show in Newport really freaked me out. 1985?
did you get an A in A Level History despite not doing it GCSE?Quote:
Originally Posted by NYCBlue
sweet loafQuote:
Originally Posted by NYCBlue
Hairway to Stephen
Classic stuff
he was off his face when he made some great music thats for sureQuote:
Originally Posted by NYCBlue
As were The Jesus Lizard , an electrifying live band
No, but I did get an A-Level in pottery without taking the O-Level. Does that count?Quote:
Originally Posted by delmbox
it sounds like you went to a pretty rough school so I'm going to agree so as not to piss you offQuote:
Originally Posted by NYCBlue
:hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by delmbox
I am is so much awe of that fact you know him and his brother , I attended two gigs in Newport one at Stow Hill Labour Club where he came on stage stood on a stool. and burst what I presumed to be fake blood all over himself , and the front row .Then again upstairs in Newport Center where they had lots of strobe lighting going and so loud on that folk left ,finally caught them at Hamersmith as well , every gig was madness it was like a acid trip without the acid. l particular love the songs ( Pepper) and ( Moving To Florida )Quote:
Originally Posted by NYCBlue
Cheap Sweaty Fun indeed
Well, well I been movin' down to Florida
And I'm gonna bowl me a perfect game
Well I'm gonna cut off my leg down in Florida, child
And I'm gonna dance one-legged off in the rain
Now, they say that Sidney Poitier was a blind man
And they say that LBJ was a Soviet Jew
When I go down Florida Way
They're ain't no kind of sexual healing that I would not, could not, should
The gigs sounded like an acid trip as most of the times Haynes was tripping on itQuote:
Originally Posted by life on mars
Very interesting band , lots of loops and beats in their music and some heavy guitar
Whats not to like ?
When's the film coming out...be a cracker