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Sheffield Wednesday , Invasion Of Cardiff , May 1984 , Remember that ! ?
They were already promoted I think
We put the admission prices up to make some money , good old Ron Jones
Howard Wilkinson asked their fans not to travel
But like us up to Hereford under Rick Wright, sod that
The crowd was 15000 , I reckon they had at least 8000 there that day , the biggest away following I had seen since Sunderland
I remember the 5000 who went to scunthorpe in the old fourth division under Eddie may , that was a good effort , but since the days of all seating I dont think those sort of followings will be seen again in football .
We took loads to Chelsea in the FA Cup some years back when we were given the whole end and also arsenal
But when Everton won the league in 85 ? for the first time in donkeys years I think they took 15000 to their title winning last away game .
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Yep I remember it , was in the pub opposite the castle ( rummer ) watching Coach after coach go o
Past
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Toadstool
Yep I remember it , was in the pub opposite the castle ( rummer ) watching Coach after coach go o
Past
Thousands of them
Don't know why but they always have had tremendous support , I think they were promoted that year with Chelsea and Newcastle and brought more than them .
Leeds we played in the February and they won with a late Scott sellars goal , they brought about 2000 but nobody matched the owls support that season
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Sunderland was the one I remember as the most away fans.
On the international front Scotland possibly brought more down on the night of Jock S death.
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SLUDGE FACTORY
They were already promoted I think
We put the admission prices up to make some money , good old Ron Jones
Howard Wilkinson asked their fans not to travel
But like us up to Hereford under Rick Wright, sod that
The crowd was 15000 , I reckon they had at least 8000 there that day , the biggest away following I had seen since Sunderland
I remember the 5000 who went to scunthorpe in the old fourth division under Eddie may , that was a good effort , but since the days of all seating I dont think those sort of followings will be seen again in football .
We took loads to Chelsea in the FA Cup some years back when we were given the whole end and also arsenal
But when Everton won the league in 85 ? for the first time in donkeys years I think they took 15000 to their title winning last away game .
Biggest away following ive seen at our club.
Think Gary Bannister scored a couple.
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Majorblue
Sunderland was the one I remember as the most away fans.
On the international front Scotland possibly brought more down on the night of Jock S death.
The uncovered away Grange end was filled by Sunderland, it fitted 10000 I think
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Hilts
Biggest away following ive seen at our club.
Think Gary Bannister scored a couple.
There were a few minor skirmishes but on the whole a good bunch
Always had time for the owls
Big club
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Re: Sheffield Wednesday , Invasion Of Cardiff , May 1984 , Remember that ! ?
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
They were already promoted I think
We put the admission prices up to make some money , good old Ron Jones
Howard Wilkinson asked their fans not to travel
But like us up to Hereford under Rick Wright, sod that
The crowd was 15000 , I reckon they had at least 8000 there that day , the biggest away following I had seen since Sunderland
I remember the 5000 who went to scunthorpe in the old fourth division under Eddie may , that was a good effort , but since the days of all seating I dont think those sort of followings will be seen again in football .
We took loads to Chelsea in the FA Cup some years back when we were given the whole end and also arsenal
But when Everton won the league in 85 ? for the first time in donkeys years I think they took 15000 to their title winning last away game .
I was there Sheff wed huge numbers, quite an experience for a 10 year old. also went to Scunthorpe when we took loads, lots in fancy dress!
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Made a massive impression on me as a kid. I went to the game with a group of mates and wondered if there would’ve been any trouble after seeing the Sheffield Wednesday numbers. With the amount of lads they had who seemed pissed up to the eyeballs I found them a good set of lads who could’ve acted up if they chose to. I remember walking up Sloper Road and a few of them were offering us cans of Hemeling.:biggrin:
I declined, even as a 13 year old I knew that Hemeling was dishwater.
It’s a shame now that when I think of Sheffield Wednesday I always think of that annoying bunch of wankers who play those trumpets.
Biggest away support at Ninian Park was Scotland in 85.
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Park Life
I was there Sheff wed huge numbers, quite an experience for a 10 year old. also went to Scunthorpe when we took loads, lots in fancy dress!
They said we took 5000 to scunthorpe
I have to say with two and a half sides of the ground it seemed a lot more than that
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Jordi Culé
Made a massive impression on me as a kid. I went to the game with a group of mates and wondered if there would’ve been any trouble after seeing the Sheffield Wednesday numbers. With the amount of lads they had who seemed pissed up to the eyeballs I found them a good set of lads who could’ve acted up if they chose to. I remember walking up Sloper Road and a few of them were offering us cans of Hemeling.:biggrin:
I declined, even as a 13 year old I knew that Hemeling was dishwater.
It’s a shame now that when I think of Sheffield Wednesday I always think of that annoying bunch of wankers who play those trumpets.
Biggest away support at Ninian Park was Scotland in 85.
They came on the pitch to celebrate at the end , they were a good bunch , if that had been leeds or Chelsea the scrapping would still be going on now
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SLUDGE FACTORY
They came on the pitch to celebrate at the end , they were a good bunch , if that had been leeds or Chelsea the scrapping would still be going on now
Wasn’t it the Chelsea game a few months previously where there was loads of trouble? Did that game with my father who used to get free tickets for a few games. Chelsea were more of a handful for our ‘lads’.
Caught a real bollocking from my father when he found out I’d ventured to Ninian Park for the Wednesday game as it goes.
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Jordi Culé
Wasn’t it the Chelsea game a few months previously where there was loads of trouble? Did that game with my father who used to get free tickets for a few games. Chelsea were more of a handful for our ‘lads’.
Caught a real bollocking from my father when he found out I’d ventured to Ninian Park for the Wednesday game as it goes.
There was trouble all day
Cardiffs trendies were surrounded in the grand stand and had a thumping
Huge fight on sloper Road after the game
I was in the bob bank and pockets of Chelsea fans would make themselves heard then get surrounded and disappear under a flurry of boots and fists
The train carrying chelsea fans home was bricked
Yet sheffield Wednesday just wanted to party
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Re: Sheffield Wednesday , Invasion Of Cardiff , May 1984 , Remember that ! ?
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SLUDGE FACTORY
The uncovered away Grange end was filled by Sunderland, it fitted 10000 I think
The new Grange End? 4000 tops.
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
There was trouble all day
Cardiffs trendies were surrounded in the grand stand and had a thumping
Huge fight on sloper Road after the game
I was in the bob bank and pockets of Chelsea fans would make themselves heard then get surrounded and disappear under a flurry of boots and fists
The train carrying chelsea fans home was bricked
Yet sheffield Wednesday just wanted to party
The Chelsea game. Started off in the Grandstand ended up in the Canton Stand. Sloper Road was mayhem when leaving the ground and saw one poor Chelsea fan taking a massive kicking from a group of Cardiff hyenas’. The bloke who came with us giving the Cardiff group a massive gobful about having it with someone ‘one to one’.
Different levels of hooliganism during the 80s wasn’t it.
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NYCBlue
The new Grange End? 4000 tops.
The uncovered one sunderland filled in 79 80 , 10,000
The new one , after segregation about 6000
2500 away fans , 3500 home fans
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Re: Sheffield Wednesday , Invasion Of Cardiff , May 1984 , Remember that ! ?
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Jordi Culé
The Chelsea game. Started off in the Grandstand ended up in the Canton Stand. Sloper Road was mayhem when leaving the ground and saw one poor Chelsea fan taking a massive kicking from a group of Cardiff hyenas’. The bloke who came with us giving the Cardiff group a massive gobful about having it with someone ‘one to one’.
Different levels of hooliganism during the 80s wasn’t it.
against Leeds we were walking back to the car and a group of them came towards us , my mates old man , a complete nutter got a golf club out of the boot and started swinging it above his head
They ran back to the Leeds coaches
It was scary at first but we were laughing our heads off when we got home
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SLUDGE FACTORY
against Leeds we were walking back to the car and a group of them came towards us , my mates old man , a complete nutter got a golf club out of the boot and started swinging it above his head
They ran back to the Leeds coaches
It was scary at first but we were laughing our heads off when we got home
My favourite going to the match with my Dad (which wasn’t a weekly thing as he was still playing local league) was an Easter Monday game v Jacks in the late 80s down the Vetch. He’d knew a few Swansea and Cardiff officials and we jumped into the car and met someone near their East Stand who give us entry into the North Bank. My father suggested I keep quiet but in all honesty although there was a fair bit of animosity it didn’t seem as bad as what it would become. The crowd was only about 6000 odd if I remember rightly.
Swansea won 2-0, my old man was engaged in yap with an older Swansea supporter talking Allchurch, John Charles etc whilst a couple of likely lads approached me asking where was I from. My father broke conversation and interrupted our wannabe defenders of the North Bank with “You two **** off or I’ll snap your legs.” He then went back to his conversation about Welsh football with his Jack friend who was moaning about the once a year warriors who only went to football for trouble.
It was one of the few times, I ever heard my father swear:biggrin:
Neither of us mentioned it on the way home either.
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SLUDGE FACTORY
The uncovered one sunderland filled in 79 80 , 10,000
The new one , after segregation about 6000
2500 away fans , 3500 home fans
This is the fullest I ever saw it. That is not 10,000 fans. Do you mean the old wooden Grange End?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3I6CIxCcJ9k
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Majorblue
Sunderland was the one I remember as the most away fans.
On the international front Scotland possibly brought more down on the night of Jock S death.
And me scrapping everywhere
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NYCBlue
yes your right , i can recall being up the back, as they came in
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NYCBlue
Snap. Never saw Ninian Park as full as that game.
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Re: Sheffield Wednesday , Invasion Of Cardiff , May 1984 , Remember that ! ?
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Originally Posted by
Jordi Culé
My favourite going to the match with my Dad (which wasn’t a weekly thing as he was still playing local league) was an Easter Monday game v Jacks in the late 80s down the Vetch. He’d knew a few Swansea and Cardiff officials and we jumped into the car and met someone near their East Stand who give us entry into the North Bank. My father suggested I keep quiet but in all honesty although there was a fair bit of animosity it didn’t seem as bad as what it would become. The crowd was only about 6000 odd if I remember rightly.
Swansea won 2-0, my old man was engaged in yap with an older Swansea supporter talking Allchurch, John Charles etc whilst a couple of likely lads approached me asking where was I from. My father broke conversation and interrupted our wannabe defenders of the North Bank with “You two **** off or I’ll snap your legs.” He then went back to his conversation about Welsh football with his Jack friend who was moaning about the once a year warriors who only went to football for trouble.
It was one of the few times, I ever heard my father swear:biggrin:
Neither of us mentioned it on the way home either.
Lol
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Re: Sheffield Wednesday , Invasion Of Cardiff , May 1984 , Remember that ! ?
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NYCBlue
Sunderland had more than that , it was rammed to the gills , the official safety capacity of that end was 10000
I would say you could have got another 1000 fans on that terrace the night of the Scotland game
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Look at it. Look how shallow it is. The old Grange was much deeper.]No way you get 10,000 on that. [ATTACH=CONFIG]4052[/ATTACH
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NYCBlue
Look at it. Look how shallow it is. The old Grange was much deeper.]No way you get 10,000 on that. [ATTACH=CONFIG]4052[/ATTACH
The Grange end the Sunderland fans filled in the late seventies had a safety capacity of 10000
It was rammed
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That Sunderland game was in 1980. I know Sunderland brought a lot of fans. But they didn't have 10,000 on that Grange End, because that Grange End never held a capacity of 10,000. Nowhere near. Look at it.
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NYCBlue
That Sunderland game was in 1980. I know Sunderland brought a lot of fans. But they didn't have 10,000 on that Grange End, because that Grange End never held a capacity of 10,000. Nowhere near. Look at it.
it had a safety capacity of 10000
They filled it
What other conclusion is there to make ?
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SLUDGE FACTORY
it had a safety capacity of 10000
They filled it
What other conclusion is there to make ?
The logical conclusion is that you're mistaken.
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NYCBlue
The logical conclusion is that you're mistaken.
well if the safety certificate capacity was set at 10000 , and thet day at the end of the 1979 1980 season saw Sunderland fill that end then there were 10000 Sunderland fans in a 10000 capacity enclosure
Unless you are saying the safety certificate for the grange end in 1979 1980 was 6000 ?
It wasnt , it was 10000
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SLUDGE FACTORY
well if the safety certificate capacity was set at 10000 , and thet day at the end of the 1979 1980 season saw Sunderland fill that end then there were 10000 Sunderland fans in a 10000 capacity enclosure
Unless you are saying the safety certificate for the grange end in 1979 1980 was 6000 ?
It wasnt , it was 10000
How do you know this?
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Re: Sheffield Wednesday , Invasion Of Cardiff , May 1984 , Remember that ! ?
So how many Swansea fans are on the Grange End in this video? 6000? 7000? 8000?
Does anyone else remember the time that Swansea brought over 6000 fans to NP? Because I don't. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOvrAXaZKfg
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NYCBlue
How do you know this?
My mates old man was in charge of match day policing at ninian park until 1985
He told me sunderland had ten thousand fans in the grange end that day and this was its capacity
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NYCBlue
So how many Swansea fans are on the Grange End in this video? 6000? 7000? 8000?
Does anyone else remember the time that Swansea brought over 6000 fans to NP? Because I don't.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOvrAXaZKfg
about 5000
The coppers roped off the section three quarters of the way along
And you can clearly see that the swansea fans are not very tightly packed either unlike the Scots and Sunderland fans were
Swansea had at least 7000 fans in the crowd that day , they were in the grandstand , the enclosures and the canton stand . Me and my old man were surrounded by loads of Jack's in the family enclosure . You can see them celebrating when Leighton James scored . The only place swansea were not in that day was the Bob Bank.
Swansea easily had 7000 fans at ninian Park that day , if not 8
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NYCBlue
So how many Swansea fans are on the Grange End in this video? 6000? 7000? 8000?
Does anyone else remember the time that Swansea brought over 6000 fans to NP? Because I don't.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOvrAXaZKfg
I’ve never seen them bring more than 2000, Boxing Day 88 or 89.....always had quite poor support here I thought, we always took far more to them.
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goats
I’ve never seen them bring more than 2000, Boxing Day 88 or 89.....always had quite poor support here I thought, we always took far more to them.
I totally agree with that but in 1980 , when John buchanons great strike shut them all up , they brought at least 6 thousand if not more , in the grange , grandstand, enclosures and canton
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SLUDGE FACTORY
I totally agree with that but in 1980 , when John buchanons great strike shut them all up , they brought at least 6 thousand if not more , in the grange , grandstand, enclosures and canton
Swansea were on their way up to the old First Division. I think they had a maximum of 4000 in the Grange End and a few hundred more scattered around the ground. I remember it being a massive crowd for the time, but I don't remember the ground being overrun by Swansea.
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NYCBlue
Swansea were on their way up to the old First Division. I think they had a maximum of 4000 in the Grange End and a few hundred more scattered around the ground. I remember it being a massive crowd for the time, but I don't remember the ground being overrun by Swansea.
Loads of jacks there that day , when cardiff scored in the canton most of the people are sitting down
Lollipop man ran over to the family enclosure canton side as there were loads of swansea fans in there , pain the arse they were , it was like being on the north bank
That was the biggest away following swansea brought in my lifetime , they failed to go up that season and went up the year after .
It was the Welsh cup game down the vetch when there was serious trouble that saw swanseas following down this way decline .
From being a team nobody bothered with swansea going up seemed to mobilise our lunatics , December 83 when we beat them three two was pretty nasty and the carnage of the Easter game in 84 at the vetch seemed to put a lot of them off coming down to ninian
However swansea are not the poorly supported team away from home a lot of our fans think . They took 5000 up to Bury many years ago and when we were promoted in 93 under may they packed the away end at elm Park reading in their final match before the play offs . At least 4000.
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Swansea went up that season.
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NYCBlue
Swansea went up that season.
Year after wasnt it ?
I thought they went fourth , third , two years second , first division