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""Dawn French has said she is concerned that cancel culture means modern comedians might not be able to do edgy comedy.
The French and Saunders star, 63, fears comedy could lost one of its 'most interesting,' dynamics if the current climate puts an end to risky stand-up routines.
It caused the Vicar of Dibley actress to say she's glad she's not starting out her career now.""
I think modern comedians are threat to comedy!
Not really.
It’s the same kind of argument about pop killing the music industry. It’s cyclical.
Are policemen looking younger to you?Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
Edgy Comedy is always going to offend someone, She is right, it might not be worth the risk to a up and coming comedian
then again, might give them the publicity to break through
No, they still look like policeman to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Harry Paget Flashman
There's a suggestion that the country is full of snowflakes who are forever being offended. That suggestion is a load of bollocks.Quote:
Originally Posted by blue matt
They need to find some decent material.
No. I was going to write why but it is painfully clear it isn't.
It could be argued the government's requests of the Beeb that more right wing comedy be included would be a threat to comedy.
I don't think her point is about left or right politics its about being risky in you deliverance without worrying who you upset, like the greats such as Bill Hicks, Lenny Bruce ,Billy Connolly or Dave Allen, comedy has always succeeded by being edgy , close to the knuckle, sometimes personal, rude or unforgiving ,without those elements surely it becomes a lost art .
Is that being lost? From your own experience?Quote:
Originally Posted by life on mars
There are still many many edgy comedians. More so now than there probably was in Bill Hicks days - hence why he was a bit of a pioneerQuote:
Originally Posted by life on mars
It's not a threat to comedy. It's probably a threat to some comedians. Bill Burr got some stick this week. He's not getting cancelled though. But Louis CK is done.
He started his monologue saying that he will probably get cancelled.Quote:
Originally Posted by NYCBlue
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Louis CK got pulled for what he did not what he saidQuote:
Originally Posted by NYCBlue
Agreed, tried to watch a few stand up shows on the weekend and it was cringe worthy. Gervais is the only comedian I've been able to watch from start to finish recently.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
Exactly, a few racists get told off and write about it in their national newspaper column or talk about it on their prime time radio slot how they've been cancelled, when quite obviously they haven't.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee
I tell you what cancel culture is, being a catholic or protestant in belfast or glasgow and not being able to work in certain shipyards, or blowing the whistle on banks misbehavior and never working again, campaigning for unions and health and safety in the building trade and being blacklisted.
A few middleclass people trying to stay relevant can f off.
Comedians will always talk about their life experiences, so older people will tend not to associate with the younger comedians because their experiences are so different.
Some people talk about the BBC, but the BBC show next to no live comedy, and only show the occasional panel show, or once or twice a year show a big named performers stand up show. I mean the BBC best biggest offering at the moment is Mrs Browns Boy’s ffs.
The Comedy circuit is as big as it has ever been so if you seem to not like anything out there you are not looking hard enough.
He still got canceled. And now Louis CK is no longer working as a comedian.Quote:
Originally Posted by WJ99mobile
He was still releasing specials on April this year. So he is still releasing comedy.Quote:
Originally Posted by NYCBlue
His actions haven't cancelled him it has made him less attractive to employ or to have in your venue.
Exactly right.Quote:
Originally Posted by qccfc
I'm subscribed to his email newsletters because I purchased one of his stand-ups about 5 years ago (and I'm too lazy to unsubscribe) - he's still peddling his specials and live tours.
Just had a look at the last one I received and it's from July 2nd where he's advertising an "audio series" that he's done. If this is him being cancelled then it appears that nobody has told him.
Exactly. Very well put.Quote:
Originally Posted by OurManFlint II
I watched his special earlier this year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Heisenberg
It did seem a bit of a dip, but I think that happens with a lot of comics, same topics, same style etc.
I personally think he was on the wain anyway
Did like Louis CK before that thing came out mind.
Indeed his comedy wasn't his downfallQuote:
Originally Posted by WJ99mobile
Think that is the point of French's comment , I don't know many edgy comedians these days other than Gervais or Stewart Lee ,a lot have had their wings clipped or cleaned up their content to avoid outrageQuote:
Originally Posted by UNDERHILL1927
There’s plenty.Quote:
Originally Posted by life on mars
Dave Chappelle for me the best around at the moment
I'll give him a listen ,there is some very bland awful ones about like McIntyre, Jimmy /Alan Carr,Russell Howard,Jason Manford, John Bishop, and dreadful Rhod Glibert whose voice makes be cringe in agony .Quote:
Originally Posted by WJ99mobile
According to Wiki, he's still pretty active with entries from 01/2020,04/2020, 07/2020 and 08/2020.Quote:
Originally Posted by NYCBlue
Regarding his special in April of this year, "Amy Schumer, admitted she watched the special saying, "I laughed at a lot of it. But it's hard to not think of what he has done, what he has and hasn't learned, but I definitely laughed.""
Isn't that what "cancelling" essentially boils down to? Some people feel conflicted about supporting your work and chose not to or chose to do so in a different, perhaps lesser, way that before. I'm sure Roy Chubby Brown has been cancelled several times but he's made a lot of money playing to larger crowds than many, just crowds with less mixed views, but we are unlikely to see some, not all, of the characters from Little Britain on TV again.
I don't understand how someone can want to stop something, simply because they don't like it, or don't agree with it. How is that democratic? Yes, I appreciate that times have changed, and quite rightly, racism and sexist are no longer acceptable. But the majority of these 'cancel culture' non-events are not down to racism or sexism - they're down to a small group of people shaming organisers into blocking the appearance of someone, usually that a much larger group of people are quite keen to see.
Brilliant post.Quote:
Originally Posted by OurManFlint II
Potentially mate yeah but I think that'll be the excuse the shit comedians use ha ha. It is possible to be funny without being offensive but I get her pointQuote:
Originally Posted by life on mars