Will football stop when we go into full lockdown again?

I'd imagine it would have too?

What full lockdown?

Yes.

Next Friday when kids finish school. 2 weeks lockdown from midnight

I don't think it will mean no football.

I think professional teams will continue because they tested.

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Originally Posted by uncle bob

Next Friday when kids finish school. 2 weeks lockdown from midnight

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Yep hearing the same , there goes another load of business and jobs .

Elite sports should be able to carry on. I would have thought

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Originally Posted by life on mars

Yep hearing the same , there goes another load of business and jobs .

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Pubs, restaurants, hairdressers will be closed.

They have changed the name to Circuit Break Lockdown as per the tweet below.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Get ready Wales.... FM preparing the ground yesterday for a “fire-break” and saying officials would look at it over the weekend. Appears from this <a href="https://twitter.com/WelshGovernment?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@WelshGovernm ent</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/fmwales?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@fmwales</a> have already made up their mind ���� <a href="https://t.co/thrvEs9Azv">https://t.co/thrvEs9Azv</a></p>&mdash; Rupert Evelyn (@rupertevelyn) <a href="https://twitter.com/rupertevelyn/status/1317472127294099458?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 17, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Can I go fishing ?

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

Can I go fishing ?

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Only if you stay 2 metres away from the fish, and you, and the fish, have tested negative for the virusAnd you don't enter their home, so no waders.

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Originally Posted by bobh

Only if you stay 2 metres away from the fish, and you, and the fish, have tested negative for the virusAnd you don't enter their home, so no waders.

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I am fecked

So we shut down for two weeks, get bored, but the infection rate drops slightly.
Then they re-open things, and we can all go out again, and the rates go back up.
I fail to see the point of this.

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Originally Posted by tforturton

So we shut down for two weeks, get bored, but the infection rate drops slightly.
Then they re-open things, and we can all go out again, and the rates go back up.
I fail to see the point of this.

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Politician's Logic: We must do something. This is something. Therefore, we must do this.

What bout all athe people who live in England, are not in lockdown and work in Wales? Anf those that live in Wales and woerk in England in "non essential" jobs? Will they be prohibited from going to work, and who will compensate them?
The whole thing is a joke, and I believe it is purely politically motivated. There is no point in a lock down if England isn't doing it. It is unenforceable. And Mr Drakeford knows that It will severely damage the welsh economy both in the short and long term and he knows that too, but it is not of as much interest to him as appearing to be different to the UK Government.
And of course if it's lifted after 17 days no one later will be able to tell if it had any affect or not.
Ir reminds me of the first world war when the ammunition factories were missing their quotas and when asked why the owners said it was because the workers went to the pub at lunchtime and after didn't work properly. The government brought in 'temporary' pub closing times that lasted 80 years and the production still went down because the problem wasn't the pubs it was bad management.

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Originally Posted by xsnaggle

What bout all athe people who live in England, are not in lockdown and work in Wales? Anf those that live in Wales and woerk in England in "non essential" jobs? Will they be prohibited from going to work, and who will compensate them?
The whole thing is a joke, and I believe it is purely politically motivated. There is no point in a lock down if England isn't doing it. It is unenforceable. And Mr Drakeford knows that It will severely damage the welsh economy both in the short and long term and he knows that too, but it is not of as much interest to him as appearing to be different to the UK Government.
And of course if it's lifted after 17 days no one later will be able to tell if it had any affect or not.
Ir reminds me of the first world war when the ammunition factories were missing their quotas and when asked why the owners said it was because the workers went to the pub at lunchtime and after didn't work properly. The government brought in 'temporary' pub closing times that lasted 80 years and the production still went down because the problem wasn't the pubs it was bad management.

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People aren't going to be stopped going to work, if there is a lockdown of the proportions that we saw initially then i'll come on here and personally apologise to you. It looks to me that places where the chances of passing the virus on are considerably higher will have to shut down for a bit. There's a lot of protection in place now (for workers) that wasn't before. In simple terms, we may have to do this in order to stop a few hundred people needlessly dying. It may happen a few more times as well.

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Originally Posted by Tuerto

People aren't going to be stopped going to work, if there is a lockdown of the proportions that we saw initially then i'll come on here and personally apologise to you. It looks to me that places where the chances of passing the virus on are considerably higher will have to shut down for a bit. There's a lot of protection in place now (for workers) that wasn't before. In simple terms, we may have to do this in order to stop a few hundred people needlessly dying. It may happen a few more times as well.

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I hope you're right but they are talking about non-essential closing, like department stores, shops factories not making essentials, it is either lockdown or it's not. If it isn't total there is no point, and if it is it will be so very harmful long term.

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Originally Posted by xsnaggle

I hope you're right but they are talking about non-essential closing, like department stores, shops factories not making essentials, it is either lockdown or it's not. If it isn't total there is no point, and if it is it will be so very harmful long term.

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I can see it being clothes shops, pubs, restaurants etc. We shall see. I can see the logic, if it means that the transmission rate and the death rate slows down. The reality is that people will just have to lump it, what are the government supposed to do in this situation? first time around was a ****ing shambles, and most people were cursing the state for almost allowing people to die of this virus, we can't have it both ways. I can understand peoples frustrations and anxieties, and it must be an absolute disaster for youngsters. What i don't understand is some of the spoilt entitled behaviour of those of a certain age who should really know better. The way some people have carried on is akin to being banged up in the solitary unit in Belmarsh. It is shit, but we're not slumming it. Just adapt and use the imagiation.

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Originally Posted by Tuerto

I can see it being clothes shops, pubs, restaurants etc. We shall see. I can see the logic, if it means that the transmission rate and the death rate slows down. The reality is that people will just have to lump it, what are the government supposed to do in this situation? first time around was a ****ing shambles, and most people were cursing the state for almost allowing people to die of this virus, we can't have it both ways. I can understand peoples frustrations and anxieties, and it must be an absolute disaster for youngsters. What i don't understand is some of the spoilt entitled behaviour of those of a certain age who should really know better. The way some people have carried on is akin to being banged up in the solitary unit in Belmarsh. It is shit, but we're not slumming it. Just adapt and use the imagiation.

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Great Post!

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Originally Posted by Tuerto

I can see it being clothes shops, pubs, restaurants etc. We shall see. I can see the logic, if it means that the transmission rate and the death rate slows down. The reality is that people will just have to lump it, what are the government supposed to do in this situation? first time around was a ****ing shambles, and most people were cursing the state for almost allowing people to die of this virus, we can't have it both ways. I can understand peoples frustrations and anxieties, and it must be an absolute disaster for youngsters. What i don't understand is some of the spoilt entitled behaviour of those of a certain age who should really know better. The way some people have carried on is akin to being banged up in the solitary unit in Belmarsh. It is shit, but we're not slumming it. Just adapt and use the imagiation.

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But who will pay the people who cannt work?

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Originally Posted by Tuerto

I can see it being clothes shops, pubs, restaurants etc. We shall see. I can see the logic, if it means that the transmission rate and the death rate slows down. The reality is that people will just have to lump it, what are the government supposed to do in this situation? first time around was a ****ing shambles, and most people were cursing the state for almost allowing people to die of this virus, we can't have it both ways. I can understand peoples frustrations and anxieties, and it must be an absolute disaster for youngsters. What i don't understand is some of the spoilt entitled behaviour of those of a certain age who should really know better. The way some people have carried on is akin to being banged up in the solitary unit in Belmarsh. It is shit, but we're not slumming it. Just adapt and use the imagiation.

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Behaviour of certain people running this Country hasn’t helped at all. One rule for some and another for the rest of us. That’s been a big negative in this pandemic.

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Originally Posted by Cleve van Leef

Behaviour of certain people running this Country hasn’t helped at all. One rule for some and another for the rest of us. That’s been a big negative in this pandemic.

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That's always been the case. I agree, it hasn't helped. I'm talking about Welsh Labour, i really don't know what people expect them to do at the moment. I'd say the same whoever was in power.

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Originally Posted by LeningradCowboy

Politician's Logic: We must do something. This is something. Therefore, we must do this.

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Opposition Logic

We must do something. But not their something. This is our something. Therefore we must do this

( True of all oppositions for the last countless number of years!!)

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Originally Posted by xsnaggle

What bout all athe people who live in England, are not in lockdown and work in Wales? Anf those that live in Wales and woerk in England in "non essential" jobs? Will they be prohibited from going to work, and who will compensate them?
The whole thing is a joke, and I believe it is purely politically motivated. There is no point in a lock down if England isn't doing it. It is unenforceable. And Mr Drakeford knows that It will severely damage the welsh economy both in the short and long term and he knows that too, but it is not of as much interest to him as appearing to be different to the UK Government.
And of course if it's lifted after 17 days no one later will be able to tell if it had any affect or not.
Ir reminds me of the first world war when the ammunition factories were missing their quotas and when asked why the owners said it was because the workers went to the pub at lunchtime and after didn't work properly. The government brought in 'temporary' pub closing times that lasted 80 years and the production still went down because the problem wasn't the pubs it was bad management.

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Its much easier than enforcing the existing rules .

We lockdown virus hides for a week or two.

Folk then won't go back to work or school.

We creep back slowly .

We open up slowly.

Positive rise

Around and around we go until we have millions unemployed, folk poorer , dying or suffering from other ailments ,5hiscwil, hurt Wales and it doesn't have too .

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Originally Posted by tforturton

So we shut down for two weeks, get bored, but the infection rate drops slightly.
Then they re-open things, and we can all go out again, and the rates go back up.
I fail to see the point of this.

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I thought the main aim of lockdown was to stop the spread slightly to prevent hospitals getting overwhelmed. If the amount of people that need intensive care goes through the roof then the death toll will be bad.

Hopefully football resumes.

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Originally Posted by Tuerto

I can see it being clothes shops, pubs, restaurants etc. We shall see. I can see the logic, if it means that the transmission rate and the death rate slows down. The reality is that people will just have to lump it, what are the government supposed to do in this situation? first time around was a ****ing shambles, and most people were cursing the state for almost allowing people to die of this virus, we can't have it both ways. I can understand peoples frustrations and anxieties, and it must be an absolute disaster for youngsters. What i don't understand is some of the spoilt entitled behaviour of those of a certain age who should really know better. The way some people have carried on is akin to being banged up in the solitary unit in Belmarsh. It is shit, but we're not slumming it. Just adapt and use the imagiation.

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What we had in March, April and May wasn't great, but it hardly qualified as a full lockdown when you compare it with what people in other countries were asked to do. The generation I belong to (often called the babyboomers) have never known the sort of hardship that previous generations of our families had to deal with and I'm afraid that "entitled" is exactly the right word to describe the selfish attitude of some when it comes to the personal sacrifices we've all been asked to make in recent months.

Mark Drakeford has confirmed that professional football and rugby will continue during the coming "fire break".

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

I am fecked

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YOU've just got time to go out and buy some fish from the market, put them in the bath and fish away all day. I feel for you, have done a bit of fly fishing myself, know how good it is.

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Originally Posted by tforturton

So we shut down for two weeks, get bored, but the infection rate drops slightly.
Then they re-open things, and we can all go out again, and the rates go back up.
I fail to see the point of this.

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The infection rate would drop a fair bit in that time and give the hospitals a breather. I can see this happening every so often in the months ahead until there is a vaccine.

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Originally Posted by Pearcey3

The infection rate would drop a fair bit in that time and give the hospitals a breather. I can see this happening every so often in the months ahead until there is a vaccine.

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~But others on here saying the hospitals are not overrun or near it, with links.
So who do you or I believe?
Personally I don't trust any of them, they give me no confidence at all, and if a lot of people think the same way that is a recipe for a bad result whatever they do.

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Originally Posted by uncle bob

I'd imagine it would have too?

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No.

Professional Sports not affected due to regular continuous testing in place for squads, management and media.

Schools will be open as 'normal' after half term as well.

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

Mark Drakeford has confirmed that professional football and rugby will continue during the coming "fire break".

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so 30-40 men can drip sweat and saliva over each other (as long as they are paid) but groups of 2 - 3 cant play golf, in the Open , where contact within 2 metres is rare, at least with my group it is.

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Originally Posted by Philbccfc

so 30-40 men can drip sweat and saliva over each other (as long as they are paid) but groups of 2 - 3 cant play golf, in the Open , where contact within 2 metres is rare, at least with my group it is.

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Two quick points:

1) You and your mates are not professional golfers.

2) Absolutely nobody wants to watch you and your mates play golf.

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Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman

Two quick points:

1) You and your mates are not professional golfers.

2) Absolutely nobody wants to watch you and your mates play golf.

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Harsh, but it seems you have missed the most important point that sportsman are not immune from this virus, professional or not.

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Originally Posted by Philbccfc

Harsh, but it seems you have missed the most important point that sportsman are not immune from this virus, professional or not.

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The most important point is that professional sportsmen are subject to intensive screening, testing and controls within the environments they play, while amateur golfers aren't.

If it was up to me, you and your mates could play golf to your heart's content. However, I think any comparison with professional sport is a bit daft under the circumstances.

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Originally Posted by Elwood Blues

Opposition Logic

We must do something. But not their something. This is our something. Therefore we must do this

( True of all oppositions for the last countless number of years!!)

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Anything has to be better than the shambles of Westminster.

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Originally Posted by Jeff Mansfield

YOU've just got time to go out and buy some fish from the market, put them in the bath and fish away all day. I feel for you, have done a bit of fly fishing myself, know how good it is.

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Fly Fishing has to be the safest self isolation sport on the planet, Dripford is mad,free the fly 's ,I hear you shout .

Indeed they are screened, but they can still pass it on before being detected. there are a number of high profile sportsmen/women with the virus, how many people were they in contact with before a positive test.

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Originally Posted by Philbccfc

Indeed they are screened, but they can still pass it on before being detected. there are a number of high profile sportsmen/women with the virus, how many people were they in contact with before a positive test.

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At a guess: not many. It's daily testing isn't it? At least that is what I've taken from players who have said that they were clean yesterday, the day before, but tested positive today etc. Even if there is a bit of a lag, their exposure will be significantly reduced vs the rest of us. So my guess is that if/when they find out that they have it, they will do so a lot sooner than the general population would.