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Decent performance tonite but the fact is we lost and we are in the bottom half of the table.
With the players at our disposal we should be doing a lot better. I know we say it every year but there is nothing in the Championship that we need to fear.
I have a feeling Messrs Dalman and Tan may not be in a good mood tonight.
No
No. Harris in.
It's definitely time for Harris to go, but not simply on the basis of tonight's game. It's a judgment on the 11 league performances this season. We're almost at the quarter-stage mark, and the results and performances are simply not good enough. My only worry is the next clown Dalman will select. The club failed to carry out a proper search when Warnock resigned; and I have little faith in Dalman finding someone of value when Harris ultimately goes.
Do we have that great a team though? Individually on paper I mean. I think most of our success under the Neil's has come down to the team as a unit rather than a particularly excellent selection of players.
It's frustrating as the league looks fairly below par, think eventually Bournemouth and Watford will get going but the rest are a bit meh. Unfortunately Swansea well placed.
The problem i have with Harris is his insistence to play the log ball, particularly if the first phase of play doesn't bring anything, and crosses. I don't mind playing that way from time to time, but we have to be able to change, we have to be able to work opportunities, turn defenders, make it uncomfortable for them. Most of our attacking play is done in front of the opposition back line, usually thirty yards in front of them. It's much easier for a defender to react when it's easy to see what's coming. How about stretching defenders, forcing them out a bit. It aint going to happen. I'm now finding the football predictable and boring.
out
Have you any faith in the board and their ability to appoint another manager? May as well stick with Harris, played really well tonight, unlucky not to winQuote:
Originally Posted by Former Labour leader
Do we have a replacement lined up? We've got 9 games in 4 weeks after the international break. Do we want Sol Bamba or Steve Morison as caretaker manger during that period?
We don't have any more parachute payments forthcoming, so there will have to be significant cost cutting next summer if we don't get promoted this season. Is a better manager than Harris going to join us with that on the cards?
I think we could get a foreign manager or a lower league manager that's up and coming. Who that is, is another question but yes, we're one of the top clubs in the Championship.Quote:
Originally Posted by LeningradCowboy
Don't think a team should want to change managers with so much to play for unless things are going really badly, and, apart from the QPR and Sheffield Wednesday games, there has been enough to say things aren't going really badly. However, I would expect the board to be paying closer attention to what is going on and booking a meeting room to sound out replacements if next 5 games don't pick up a lot more points.
I hope Harris can turn things around, he may well do given the chance. My biggest concern is that he can't change the style that we're seeing at the moment.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa
Have we had parachute payments? What did we do with them?Quote:
Originally Posted by LeningradCowboy
I put on another thread, I think we're a victim of getting into the playoffs, he had a 3 week preseason to change things and I think the NML situation really knocked the stuffing out of the squad, as well as a playoff hangover. He's bought well I think but has he addressed enough issues? Probably not. Do we know our best team? Does he? I think he's inheriting a team at the end of their cycle and its quite a big rebuilding job. I don't think any of our wingers are the answer any more and Moore needs bodies around him, which we don't have. We're painfully slow and we've got 0 imagination in the middle.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tuerto
I'd say that we have 4 undroppable players: Smithies, Morrison, Ralls and Wilson. The rest are OK but will they be here next year? Would you build a side around any of them? Perhaps being a tad harsh on Bennett and Nelson...
Wage bill.Quote:
Originally Posted by surge
We've just played 7 games in 20 days. I doubt that the squad had much time on the training pitch in that period. There are two weeks off for the international window, but after that we play 9 games in 28 days, so Harris (or a new manager) will have the same issue until Christmas.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tuerto
You can add that our best player last year (Tomlin) got injured and hasn't featured this year which wouldn't have happened if we weren't in play-offs last year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa
I agree with most of your post especially bit in bold.
Forgot about Tomlin, who could potentially fall into the bold category. We won't be giving him another contract, even if I think he'll be very useful for the 2 seasons we have left of him.Quote:
Originally Posted by surge
It all goes back to Warnock spunking big money on some incredibly bang average players last season. Pretty much every player that Harris brought in has improved the squad, although we haven't seen Benković, but we still have fundamental weaknesses.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa
Of course, awful manager.Quote:
Originally Posted by Former Labour leader
A good win against a poor Barnsley but as soon as we went defensive once again it was obvious we were looking to be on the back foot straight away, early goal shocked no one and with Harris struggles to break down teams.
Let's be honest most knew from the line up what was going to happen.
Harris out! Pearson in!
“He’s had a transfer window”
Yes with players he couldn’t get rid of too.
They hired a manager who achieves about the level we are at now so what do they expect? Buy cheap, buy twice.....do we ever hire a decent manager?Quote:
Originally Posted by Former Labour leader
I don’t think you can start building a team around any loan player. Wilson will be leaving at the end of the season I am sureQuote:
Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa
How can you say that Tomlin will be ‘very useful for the 2 seasons we have left of him’?! Seriously?Quote:
Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa
He is an unquestionable talent and our best player, but he never plays!! He isn’t fit enough to play 90 mins and is only getting older.
I just cannot believe that anyone thinks that we are going to get anything out to Tomlin other than the odd cameo. He never plays!
Absolutely amazing. 🤦*♂️
Pearson had had covid and is only now on the mend after being unwell for some time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Soul '68
I'm genuinely conflicted about the Harris situation. On one hand we have seen better performances, after our playoff miss certainly affected the players and I think he should be given more time. On the other hand I look at the players and think another, more savvy manager would be getting more out of them.
Any new manager would have to play a similar style, no tippy tappy with our lot so perhaps our next question is to name the new manager.
Pearson is a obvious choice but he has been unwell due to covid so I am not sure he's the man.
Any further offers ?
Well the obvious answer is Eddie Howe but he’d never come here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Former Labour leader
Any manager that can get a team of decent standard Championship players playing passing, possession based football, like every other forward thinking, successful team these days, and doesn’t produce a team that bores everyone to tears, would do me.
Harris will have until Christmas, if we’re still struggling we should go for former Bluebirds supporter who now manages the Jacks?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bobby Dandruff
HA HA:biggrin:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ianto13
Lol😀Quote:
Originally Posted by jeepster
Nigel Pearson
Only to sack him in 6 months after he headbutts Joe BennettQuote:
Originally Posted by Harry Paget Flashman
Guy is a nutcase, no thanks
Of all the players I'd like to see him nut he is one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Llandaff Blue
She's only just won the VP nomination. Give her 'til the end of the January window ffs!
I know Bennett's a big head but that's a bit harsh. 😛Quote:
Originally Posted by Harry Paget Flashman
Can't have a left back with a hair doo like Liberace.Quote:
Originally Posted by Former Labour leader
Liberace had an excuse. 😀Quote:
Originally Posted by Harry Paget Flashman