NH didn’t mention him yesterday. Apparently he has a foot problem. Does he need a chiropodist or a pschyiatrist?
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NH didn’t mention him yesterday. Apparently he has a foot problem. Does he need a chiropodist or a pschyiatrist?
He’s to short for all the high ballsQuote:
Originally Posted by pomeroy
It's an odd one. I recall Jurgen Klopp talking about players who can play when they're not right, he said that most players are never 100%, such is the intensity of the game and that they need to learn how to try and switch certain problems off. He was referring to Daniel Sturridge. I'm not saying that Vassell is that type of player, his injuries are genuine, it just seems that some players need to be 100% in order to play. Maybe Vassell is one of those players.Quote:
Originally Posted by pomeroy
O dear again:hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by BLUETIT
It's a sport with you two, typo's and spelling mistakes.Quote:
Originally Posted by splott parker
IAnd to be fair, you’re coming on wonderfully, since you’ve been watching your qs & ps......erm....ps & qs:hehe::thumbup:Quote:
Originally Posted by Tuerto
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Originally Posted by splott parker
Gotta keep you on your Tooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo's :hehe:
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Originally Posted by splott parker
I,I
Two right:thumbup::hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by BLUETIT
Sorry, you’re being too kind, which is a rarity for you when it comes to judging players.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tuerto
He’s been an absolute joke of a signing. Club clearly didn’t do it’s due diligence. Just signing players on the whims of Colin and the agents he had on board the CCFC gravy train with him. Should just pay the **** up the remainder of his contract and **** him off.
I'd say that i'm fair in my judgement of players, although i wont let them get away with certain things like some fans do, or make excuses up for them. Vassell, wasn't it a million? A punt in my opinion, hasn't worked.Quote:
Originally Posted by J R Hartley
The fleeting glimpse I had of him ,he seemed quick and looked good for that brief 15 minutes or so.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tuerto
Colin and agents....
Anyone else think like me? We've been totally screwed over, not just Vassell but many more
Double that price I believe.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tuerto
Some of his signings were good , some still playing and contributing, I think as a club we're always susceptible to this type of signing or as someone put it 'punt' it could have worked or ended up like this , its not just a Warnock thing ,.Quote:
Originally Posted by Porth Pouncer
I'm sure some of our stato experts may have some deeper details of our successful and unsuccessful fit signings by manager by game time then drill down further the on field contribution v injuries ie prone players like Tomlin & Vassell v Holilet & Smithies
I listen to quite a few podcasts and most players say they were actually fit about twice in their careers! I think Vassell has go to get somewhere near fit first! What an awful signing. 2/3m depending on who you believe and decent money, could be as much as 5/6m down the toilet. It’s a good job he wasn’t injury prone before...Quote:
Originally Posted by Tuerto
He hasn't played 15 or more games in a season since 2016-17 in League 2. He's only played 15 or more games in a season 3 times with 2 of those being below Conference level.
He did look good when he did play for us, and against us, but I would love to know what was written about his injury record when assessing if we should sign him to a three year contract.
£2m on a 3 year deal. Joke of a signing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tuerto
It is very easy to criticise a player or a club for signing him in the first place, if you don't have any true facts about how much he cost or how much he is being paid. For all you lot know, bearing in mind his previous injury, he could be on a pay as you play deal and the transfer fee was probably structured based on appearances and/or goals scored. In which case he will so far have cost us very little. He was signed for his potential and could still come off in future. Easy target for the keyboard warriors who have no idea what the facts are but why let facts get in the way of a good bit of Warnock bashing eh !
Harris said some weeks ago that “ he had a foot problem “ but was now training on grass but we would be unlikely to see him before January. It seems therefore that the problem is more than a verruka, a bunion or an in growing toenail. Could it be athletes foot or a nail fungal infection or a metatarsal spur or does he have one foot shorter or longer than the other. If he is training on grass then it would seem that the “ foot problem “ is not that serious so why do we still have to wait another six weeks to see Isaac kick a ball in anger. I think a report from a sports psychologist would be in order. I, for one, hopes that the lad makes a remarkable recovery and becomes the goal scoring hero, for us, that he could be.
If that were the case, the club would have let it be known by now. That kind of deal would have represented a shrewd bit of dealing by the club. Given light of Vassell's prolonged absence and speculation about a possible high salary, the club would be quick to point out that they had not taken a big financial hit by his signing.Quote:
Originally Posted by dml1954
Yes that's true. He can't use either one!! :getscoat:Quote:
Originally Posted by pomeroy
This is too good :hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by dml1954
Any news of that massive Gary Madine loan fee? Have Sheffield Utd coughed up yet?Quote:
Originally Posted by dml1954
I don't think he'll ever be fit enough to play again
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Another setback for Isaac Vassell, quad has gone again. Neil Harris says it could alter the club's thinking now in January. <br><br>Cardiff thought they had enough forwards in their ranks, but long-term Tomlin and Vassell absences are big blows <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/CCFC?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#CCFC</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Bluebirds?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Blueb irds</a> <a href="https://t.co/BQDeVReEf4">https://t.co/BQDeVReEf4</a></p>— Glen Williams (@GlenWilliams12) <a href="https://twitter.com/GlenWilliams12/status/1332577967562584064?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 28, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Exactly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rock_Flock_of_Five
Why would they release private details of a players contract ?. Thats not something they do. It isn't the club speculating about his contract, fee or wages. It is a number of ‘know all’ fans. It was announced as an an ‘undisclosed fee’ for a reason. He is obviously injury prone and his signing was a gamble but so what ? It could have come off.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rock_Flock_of_Five
So, come on then, how much was his transfer fee, what are they paying him. No idea ? I thought so. Know all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Heisenberg
Awful signing, hardly difficult to predict either.
Jesus Christ, no wonder you get so much stick on here!Quote:
Originally Posted by dml1954
So, by your way of thinking, perhaps a club shouldn't disclose how long a contract is for, because that would be 'private', right? There are things related to a player's contract which are obviously not for disclosure, salary being the main one. But certain terms of contract have always been out there - a 'pay-as-you-play' arrangement being one example.
The player's agent would look for it to be known he is on such a contract, in the hope that another club would come in with a better offer of a more secure deal.
After Vassell had scored the winner against Luton on his debut, Hatters boss Graeme Jones told the press: "At one stage, he was coming here (Luton). But other clubs got involved and we were unable to compete financially."Quote:
Originally Posted by dml1954
Before City had actually signed Vassell, Jones said: "Cardiff have financially gone out on a limb for him and that’s obviously how it is."
https://thelutonian.com/cardiff-have...ys-luton-boss/
Luton were very keen to sign him, Swansea were keen to sign him, Middlesbrough had previously been interested but had dropped out of the race due to the cost and fears about his injury record, Birmingham couldn't afford to keep him, and yet you seem to seriously believe Vassell's deal with Cardiff (a three-year contract, no less) could be on a pay-as-you-play basis and he might have been a very cheap signing.
You don't really think these things through, do you?
Some thought hevess worth a punt unless everyone ls a fecking bulshitterQuote:
Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman
Try again.Quote:
Originally Posted by life on mars
Watched Vassell have to come off in u23 game he played a few months ago, burst into tears and Harris had to comfort him. He seems to really care at least.
Er, haven't you placed yourself in the same category as these "know all" fans by speculating on Vassell being on a pay as you play deal when I'm not aware of anything to give that claim any legitimacy from either party?Quote:
Originally Posted by dml1954
Also, you talk of people criticising the player. Clearly, with an injury record like his, he is going to attract the occasional derogatory comment, but I've not seen or heard a great deal of criticism of him from City fans - if anything, I'd say there's been a degree of sympathy. That's certainly what I felt early earlier this year I believe it was in an under 23 match when I saw Vassell attempting a comeback - he lasted about twenty minutes and then broke down. It was so sad to see his frustration and hurt because he appeared to know that it was back to square one for him, you would have needed a heart of stone not to feel sorry for him at that moment.
Some managers thought he was worth a punt unless it was all media /agent bullshit 😇Quote:
Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman
Absolutely.Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
Undoubtedly. He's clearly a promising player when fit, which unfortunately is very rarely. Warnock decided to take a punt, but it didn't pay off. However, the notion that it was a cheap punt, as dml1954 claims, is clearly nonsense based on all of the available evidence.Quote:
Originally Posted by life on mars
I'm sure they did, his record when fit suggests he could be a good player at this level, but I don't see that as the issue here - the name of the player Neil Warnock recently said the Cardiff Board wouldn't sign after he'd recommended him escapes me at the moment, but maybe we could have got him if Warnock had not gambled on players with injury and fitness records like Vassell and Tomlin.Quote:
Originally Posted by life on mars
As you say, Vassell was a "punt" and, as such, Neil Warnock is hardly in a position to aim digs at City's Board after the way he was backed when signing the player.
Ollie WatkinsQuote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson