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One of the few joys of being self employed. Do it and you bill it. Then again you have to wait for months and months to then receive it.
I have a built in honesty box,
On rare occasions I will finish 30/45 mins early or take extended lunch break, if I have commitments in my outside work life. and not officially tell anyone or book it off, but then I will equally do something extra in my week which I feel will match/make up for that loss time.
I feel by the end of the week I have done the same if not more work than if I was in the office but have completed loads more jobs and gotten way more done because I have been flexible when I needed to and worked when I usually would be bumming round. the joys of working from home!
a couple of hours a week
About 3 days a month....usual for NHS
None, Council - strictly flexi clocking in and out. As I've been working from home I'm tempted to clock in if I'm even thinking about work :hehe:
Between 5-15
A week?Quote:
Originally Posted by J R Hartley
Yes. Im supposed to work 8-5 with an hour lunch. Rarely have a full hour and rarely finish dead on 5. Often work til 7/8pm.Quote:
Originally Posted by WJ99mobile
If that's a week, then you need to have a word, although i do understand compromise, especially if you're working for a small to medium outfit. I was self employed for 26 years, if i worked out all the hours i worked, pricing jobs, traveling, sitting down doing estimates, cleaning out the van, running around for material etc, i'd have been on about £3.50 per hour :hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by J R Hartley
That is absolutely nuts. You must either really love your job or you're being seriously taken advantage of.Quote:
Originally Posted by J R Hartley
Yup, **** that, unless it was short term pain for long term gain.Quote:
Originally Posted by Freitag 4.17
I'm contracted to work 37.5 hours a week. I probably work about 40
It is what it is. I live 5 mins from the office, no commuting. That would add 1.5/2 hours a day if I worked in Cardiff.Quote:
Originally Posted by Freitag 4.17
I now live around 2 metres from my office, I’m still not giving it 15hrs/week for free! That’s crazy man!?
It depends and comes in waves, pre-pandemic I’d say anywhere between 2-5hrs a week perhaps. I have about two working day’s worth of flexi/toil built up atm but since wfh I’ve now tended to be more disciplined with my time, working on less, but also have less reason to take time off, either through overtime or leave. Normally I’d use built up overtime to have an early finish on Friday or another less busy day.
I think when we do move back to incorporating some office based working, having to commute to the office, etc., I will make more of an effort to be stricter on finishing time as it seems silly in retrospect to be spending longer than contracted in an office and delaying a trip on cramped public transport.
15 is an extreme, usually before im due a holiday where I try and get as much done for my colleagues as possible, or end of the month when production is at its busiest. I do more 5 hour overtime weeks than 15 hours. Plus its not technically free because its built into my salary where extra hours are expected. Obviously not 15 hours but 5 hours is neither here nor there to me and mindset. I work to print deadlines you cant just log off at 5pm and leave things for the morning. Its not the public sector.Quote:
Originally Posted by Freitag 4.17
I do take some hours back but nowhere near what I give.
Ignorance is bliss :shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by J R Hartley
4 hours a month maybe, that's more than enough thank you, and I make sure I take more than a few leisurely poo's on work time to cover
Hard to know because my contract says something like 35 hours, plus whatever is needed. I certainly do more than 35. I imagine I average about 50, but some weeks can be mental and I’ll do 80+. I actually took a job that was more traditional 9-5 but couldn’t deal with the lack of stress so went back to the one I’m in now. Sometimes I hate it and sometimes it gets a bit too much, but on the whole it’s a rewarding job and on the whole I like it. What does irritate me is when people assume I’m ok to work whenever they want, in particular my colleagues in the US.
wait, you do between 15-45 additional hours unpaid!?Quote:
Originally Posted by Optimistic Nick
None
Slave labourQuote:
Originally Posted by I'll give you the Malky!!
You’d need a job firstQuote:
Originally Posted by Its been emotional
Far less than I used to deliberately. Rarely take more than 20-30 mins for lunch. Almost never work late. Sometimes work for an hour or so over the weekend depending on what I have coming up on Monday.
45 extra is very rare, maybe only once or twice a year and normally means working overnight or doing significant amounts on the weekend. We used to have a rule that if you did two weeks of 50+hours in a row, you got a day off to recover. The maths don't really stack up on that! And for the more junior people we do have to monitor it as we might have NMW issues otherwise. It's down a lot while I'm working from home because I'm more detached from others doing the same thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Splott-light...
But my contract doesn't say 35 hours. It says my office hours are 9-5, but to be flexible depending on the business needs. So it's not overtime really. When I started I used to work longer hours than I do now but I did switch off when I left the office. Nowadays I do try to finish up by 7, but with work iPhones and working from home, I never really switch off properly. And that is much more exhausting than the extra hours.
Go on, enlighten me....Quote:
Originally Posted by I'll give you the Malky!!
Typically 18 but it's been up to 30 hours on occasions. 2 hours a day during the week & Sat/Sun mornings,
It works both ways mate. I use it to my advantage when the time is right. It helps with pay negotiations. Id rather work a few extra hours and bump my own pay than they employ more people so I can finish on time. Plus, it’s not like I’m on 8 quid an hour and giving them an extra 20% or on a zero hour contract so earning **** all in the quiet periods.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tuerto
We’ve recently let a third of the staff go thanks to covid. By putting a few extra hours in and being flexible then it obviously helps on these situations.
what a martyr :hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by J R Hartley
GrafterQuote:
Originally Posted by OurManFlint II
What is NMW?Quote:
Originally Posted by Optimistic Nick
National minimum wage. And we are talking about people who would be considered to be on decent pay, here. £25k-£30k. In the crazy months, minimum wage becomes a problem on that sort of salary.Quote:
Originally Posted by lardy
My arse! bet you load videos on Linkedin and use hastags for your #grafting. Anyone doing that much overtime who isn't a front-line, or support health worker, and/or is at war...then sorry, got to be a marketing gig?Quote:
Originally Posted by J R Hartley
National Minimum WageQuote:
Originally Posted by lardy
Brexit?Quote:
Originally Posted by Optimistic Nick
Not sure I follow? To be honest I've no idea why the rule disappeared. Possibly because it is so obviously a piss-take. They did introduce paid overtime for staff below a certain grade at the same time... But the time that people put in and the time that hits a time sheet isnt always the same thing. It is what it is. It's horrible at times, but mostly it's pretty good.Quote:
Originally Posted by OurManFlint II
That much overtime? 5-15 on their 40 hour week? To anyone with the slightest bit of work ethic it’s **** all. I know people working 72 hour weeks and earn less.Quote:
Originally Posted by OurManFlint II
LinkedIn ffs. Pretentious? Moi?
Me for exampleQuote:
Originally Posted by J R Hartley
Anyway you have earned enough from your fishing books
And my catalogue work.Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY