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Someone advise Tan correctly this time.
Before the previous managers drove down Leckwith Road , the current board members had never even heard of them. Admittedly , Warnock turned the club around getting promotion against the odds. The only problem was, he was way out of his depth and duly kept up his record of never keeping a team up in the Premier League. Then East Ender was appointed,a choice which was disappointing to most Cardiff fans. He had a good go last season, but like Warnock, was soon found out and after the recent run of results , everyone knew what was going to be inevitable. Whoever the club uses to get the managers in the club, please get it right this time. The long suffering ,faithful fans ,deserve better.
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Re: Someone advise Tan correctly this time.
I vote for Bobby Dandruff.
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Re: Someone advise Tan correctly this time.
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Originally Posted by
Hilts
I vote for Bobby Dandruff.
At least I spotted that Harris wasn’t up to it months ago. Like most people. Apart from you, which must be pretty embarrassing.
Anyway, I suppose that it just confirms that you aren’t the man for the job either :-)
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Re: Someone advise Tan correctly this time.
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Originally Posted by
Bobby Dandruff
At least I spotted that Harris wasn’t up to it months ago. Like most people. Apart from you, which must be pretty embarrassing.
Anyway, I suppose that it just confirms that you aren’t the man for the job either :-)
Bobby is the 'Leader' :hehe:
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Originally Posted by
Tuerto
Bobby is the 'Leader' :hehe:
I DO have my FA Level 1 coaching badge. Does that count? :-)
Dennis, you can be Director of Football.
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Re: Someone advise Tan correctly this time.
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Originally Posted by
Bobby Dandruff
At least I spotted that Harris wasn’t up to it months ago. Like most people. Apart from you, which must be pretty embarrassing.
Anyway, I suppose that it just confirms that you aren’t the man for the job either :-)
No doubt you will moan continually, as you have done over the last 18 months, no matter who gets appointed.
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Re: Someone advise Tan correctly this time.
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Originally Posted by
Bobby Dandruff
I DO have my FA Level 1 coaching badge. Does that count? :-)
Dennis, you can be Director of Football.
I reckon we'd sort it Bob, in all honesty :hehe:
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Re: Someone advise Tan correctly this time.
The only person who's advised Tan correctly in recent years is his mum.
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Re: Someone advise Tan correctly this time.
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Originally Posted by
Ivortheengine
Before the previous managers drove down Leckwith Road , the current board members had never even heard of them. Admittedly , Warnock turned the club around getting promotion against the odds. The only problem was, he was way out of his depth and duly kept up his record of never keeping a team up in the Premier League. Then East Ender was appointed,a choice which was disappointing to most Cardiff fans. He had a good go last season, but like Warnock, was soon found out and after the recent run of results , everyone knew what was going to be inevitable. Whoever the club uses to get the managers in the club, please get it right this time. The long suffering ,faithful fans ,deserve better.
Why do you think Swansea seem to get it right time and again ?
Owners who have no football knowledge but a board advisor named Alan Curtis who has been at the club for many years.
Dalman, move out so we can get a DOF in at senior level
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Re: Someone advise Tan correctly this time.
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Originally Posted by
DubaiDai
Why do you think Swansea seem to get it right time and again ?
Owners who have no football knowledge but a board advisor named Alan Curtis who has been at the club for many years.
Dalman, move out so we can get a DOF in at senior level
I don't see what was wrong with Harris's credentials at the time of appointment? It was less of a risk than Steve Cooper.
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Originally Posted by
WJ99mobile
I don't see what was wrong with Harris's credentials at the time of appointment? It was less of a risk than Steve Cooper.
But they knew exactly what they wanted and probably laid it out at interview time.
It’s not as simple as “we want promotion, go and get it”.
Harris’s credentials would have shown us exactly what to expect.
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Originally Posted by
DubaiDai
Why do you think Swansea seem to get it right time and again ?
Owners who have no football knowledge but a board advisor named Alan Curtis who has been at the club for many years.
Dalman, move out so we can get a DOF in at senior level
Why would Dalman have to move out so we can get a DOF in?
Board Chair and Director of Football are two completely different roles.
In a few cases they are combined, but usually not. Both are important.
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Re: Someone advise Tan correctly this time.
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Originally Posted by
DubaiDai
Why do you think Swansea seem to get it right time and again ?
Owners who have no football knowledge but a board advisor named Alan Curtis who has been at the club for many years.
Dalman, move out so we can get a DOF in at senior level
Just to piss us off?
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Re: Someone advise Tan correctly this time.
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Originally Posted by
jon1959
Why would Dalman have to move out so we can get a DOF in?
Board Chair and Director of Football are two completely different roles.
In a few cases they are combined, but usually not. Both are important.
If Choo is the MD what does Dalman actually do ?
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Re: Someone advise Tan correctly this time.
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Originally Posted by
DubaiDai
If Choo is the MD what does Dalman actually do ?
He looks good in an expensive suit. Every club needs someone like that.
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If vote for Bobby over many of the Harris fans on here.
Unbelievably some are still arguing his case.
I'd also probably take Bobby over the fun boy three to pick the new guy too.
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Re: Someone advise Tan correctly this time.
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Originally Posted by
DubaiDai
If Choo is the MD what does Dalman actually do ?
Does Tan pay him for anything? What does he do?
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Its not an easy gig being the font of all football knowledge.
Someone did advise Tan correctly a few times as we were promoted twice with those managers , its the after party we have a problem with .
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Re: Someone advise Tan correctly this time.
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Originally Posted by
Ivortheengine
Before the previous managers drove down Leckwith Road , the current board members had never even heard of them. Admittedly , Warnock turned the club around getting promotion against the odds. The only problem was, he was way out of his depth and duly kept up his record of never keeping a team up in the Premier League. Then East Ender was appointed,a choice which was disappointing to most Cardiff fans. He had a good go last season, but like Warnock, was soon found out and after the recent run of results , everyone knew what was going to be inevitable. Whoever the club uses to get the managers in the club, please get it right this time. The long suffering ,faithful fans ,deserve better.
Warnock's highs as a manager were higher than Harris' but his lows (big spending, long contracts, dire football) were lower than Harris' lows also.
A disappointing choice - why? If we had a DoF they would have brought in someone similar to Warnock but looking to improve our playing style, improve our dealings in the market and improve our use of the academy while still making us competitive. Harris managed 50% of that well and for a period of time managed 75% of it. Harris was the right choice at the time, but it also right to part ways with him now.
The next manager should be given the same brief as Harris but hopefully will be a little more tactically astute; they will face many of the same difficulties as Harris due to wasted resources over 10 years* and the low moments from Warnock's time here; and they will have a lot easier time of it if we don't reject them straight away or refuse to accept that maybe, just maybe, they're capable of developing as managers as players are capable of developing also so their reputation at previous club is not everything.
*and yet I would still argue that Tan's running of the club has not been the main issue over the past two years.
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Originally Posted by
WJ99mobile
I don't see what was wrong with Harris's credentials at the time of appointment? It was less of a risk than Steve Cooper.
Have you compared their CVs? One of them worked at Millwall the other worked at Liverpool and England.
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Originally Posted by
Ivortheengine
Before the previous managers drove down Leckwith Road , the current board members had never even heard of them. Admittedly , Warnock turned the club around getting promotion against the odds. The only problem was, he was way out of his depth and duly kept up his record of never keeping a team up in the Premier League. Then East Ender was appointed,a choice which was disappointing to most Cardiff fans. He had a good go last season, but like Warnock, was soon found out and after the recent run of results , everyone knew what was going to be inevitable. Whoever the club uses to get the managers in the club, please get it right this time. The long suffering ,faithful fans ,deserve better.
Here starteth the problem....
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Re: Someone advise Tan correctly this time.
I'd like to point out that on this message board I was suggesting Graham potter when he was at ostersunds, Ralf hassnhuutl when he was still at Ingolstadt and Bielsa when he was a free agent a long time before he went to Leeds, so I'd happily give Vinnie some pointers.
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Re: Someone advise Tan correctly this time.
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Originally Posted by
Tuerto
I reckon we'd sort it Bob, in all honesty :hehe:
Done :-)
We can have Hilts as Head of Recruitment and dml1954 as Team Psychologist. ;-)
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Originally Posted by
blue lewj
If vote for Bobby over many of the Harris fans on here.
Unbelievably some are still arguing his case.
I'd also probably take Bobby over the fun boy three to pick the new guy too.
For that you can be my Head of Football Analytics. :-)
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Will you be giving up your season ticket when you are manager?
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Did someone like Warnock advise Tan on this occasion ?
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Re: Someone advise Tan correctly this time.
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Originally Posted by
Tuerto
He looks good in an expensive suit. Every club needs someone like that.
Swiss Tony!
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Re: Someone advise Tan correctly this time.
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Originally Posted by
DubaiDai
If Choo is the MD what does Dalman actually do ?
What does it mattter to you or me what he does so long as we have a good manager and maybe a good DoF?
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Originally Posted by
xsnaggle
What does it mattter to you or me what he does so long as we have a good manager and maybe a good DoF?
I made the point as it seems clear Tan will not invest in a DOF. Something everyone has been calling for over a number of years.
If budgets are the issue I was simply pointing out that the money we pay Dalman would be far better invested in an experienced DOF
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Originally Posted by
DubaiDai
I made the point as it seems clear Tan will not invest in a DOF. Something everyone has been calling for over a number of years.
If budgets are the issue I was simply pointing out that the money we pay Dalman would be far better invested in an experienced DOF
I still don't get this thing with people saying we don't have a player budget (Just before we brought 2 players in) and now talking about "The money we pay" Dahlman.
Tan pays Dahlam and if he couldn't afford it or Dahlman wasn't doing what he wanted he'd be gone yesterday. If Tan decides he wants a DoF he will get one. Why people think they know the finances of Tan or his football club and can decide we cannot afford this or that is beyond me.
Is there anything that leads you to believe that 'budgets' are the problem given that you say yourself that VT will not have one?
