Football Commentators, The Accused

leading on from another thread I think most of them are crap , as are most of the pundits

Clive Tyldesley has got to be the worst of all time ?

Jimmy Hill , complete idiot

Alan Parry , excited scouse school kid

Tony Gubba , potential but like city never made the big time

That part geordie one on the BBC? Get rid of him

Phil Thompson , money for old rope

Martin Tyler .......don't have SKY , is he still on it ? He was OK


Locally anyone remember Idwal Robling ?

Watching Wales v Scotland at anfield 1977 on TV

Welsh team warming up , Idwal says Welsh centre back looks very much like John Toshack ! Fella on microphone says thats because that is John Toshack Idwal

We have all been there

Hi Sludge. you been fishing lately?

Saw some guys on the River Blackwater the other day which was in flood so they were clearly escaping something rather than trying to catch something which is understandable.

Been seriously considering ripping a Cat's whisker through a trout lake although it's a 20+ mile drive from here.

And yes I remember Idwal Robling.

Take care. TIB

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Originally Posted by Taffy Blue in Berkshire

Hi Sludge. you been fishing lately?

Saw some guys on the River Blackwater the other day which was in flood so they were clearly escaping something rather than trying to catch something which is understandable.

Been seriously considering ripping a Cat's whisker through a trout lake although it's a 20+ mile drive from here.

And yes I remember Idwal Robling.

Take care. TIB

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No its banned mate by the clubs I am in

Wheres the river Blackwater?

If it was a coarse river I would wait till the floods were over and fish in the smaller rivers running off it where the small fish take cover and that's where the pike and perch which is what I am into go to hunt them

I have access to a few small rivers but can't fish for trout , even if I could , as the season is march to September

Only fished a stillwater for trout once or twice , are they open all year round your way ?

Idwal won a tv competition which thousands entered to become a commentator on the 1970 world cup. He got to the last two and was up against Ian St. John but Idwal got it on the casting vote of Alf Ramsey.

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

leading on from another thread I think most of them are crap , as are most of the pundits

Clive Tyldesley has got to be the worst of all time ?

Jimmy Hill , complete idiot

Alan Parry , excited scouse school kid

Tony Gubba , potential but like city never made the big time

That part geordie one on the BBC? Get rid of him

Phil Thompson , money for old rope

Martin Tyler .......don't have SKY , is he still on it ? He was OK


Locally anyone remember Idwal Robling ?

Watching Wales v Scotland at anfield 1977 on TV

Welsh team warming up , Idwal says Welsh centre back looks very much like John Toshack ! Fella on microphone says thats because that is John Toshack Idwal

We have all been there

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Clive Tildesley has recently been demoted by ITV as their lead commentator. He gave quite a tirade on Twitter over it. He's now become main commentator on Rangers TV, so he's now universally hated by Celtic fans! He took to selling off old hand written match notes he'd made.

Parry is now one of the football league commentators on Sky, still going. Tyler is still there but well past his best.

I quite like John Murray on Radio 5, the part Geordie one.

Clive Tildesley commentates on EPL games for NBC. I think he commentated on one of the FA Cup matches for ESPN today.

The main commentators for NBC -who have the rights to the EPL- are Arlo White and Peter Drury.

First thing they have to do is get rid of all the women , both at games and in the studio. None of them know anything, and I don’t need to be told something by a woman, when i’m fully aware of what’s happening. I used to enjoy radio commentators more, in the past. They had to be more descriptive, more informative ,which led to football being much more enjoyable before Sky came in.They made you feel as though you were actually there. Bring back the good old days.

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Originally Posted by NYCBlue

Clive Tildesley commentates on EPL games for NBC. I think he commentated on one of the FA Cup matches for ESPN today.

The main commentators for NBC -who have the rights to the EPL- are Arlo White and Peter Drury.

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There's an international feed for Premier League games, covered mainly by White and Drury. Clearly NBC use that feed.

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Originally Posted by Cyncoed Slumdog

Idwal won a tv competition which thousands entered to become a commentator on the 1970 world cup. He got to the last two and was up against Ian St. John but Idwal got it on the casting vote of Alf Ramsey.

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Our very own Hugh Johns , commentate on 1970 World Cup

Covered HTV sport for ages

God rest his soul

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Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee

Clive Tildesley has recently been demoted by ITV as their lead commentator. He gave quite a tirade on Twitter over it. He's now become main commentator on Rangers TV, so he's now universally hated by Celtic fans! He took to selling off old hand written match notes he'd made.

Parry is now one of the football league commentators on Sky, still going. Tyler is still there but well past his best.

I quite like John Murray on Radio 5, the part Geordie one.

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if you see John Murray tell him I want a word

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Originally Posted by Ivortheengine

First thing they have to do is get rid of all the women , both at games and in the studio. None of them know anything, and I don’t need to be told something by a woman, when i’m fully aware of what’s happening. I used to enjoy radio commentators more, in the past. They had to be more descriptive, more informative ,which led to football being much more enjoyable before Sky came in.They made you feel as though you were actually there. Bring back the good old days.

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no women allowed to go to football matches ?

Thats a bit harsh

I have met some right sorts down the city

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Originally Posted by Ivortheengine

First thing they have to do is get rid of all the women , both at games and in the studio. None of them know anything, and I don’t need to be told something by a woman, when i’m fully aware of what’s happening. I used to enjoy radio commentators more, in the past. They had to be more descriptive, more informative ,which led to football being much more enjoyable before Sky came in.They made you feel as though you were actually there. Bring back the good old days.

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You're leaving yourself open to abuse on here mate expressing those sentiments ! Although I'm not quite as anti-woman as you appear to be, broadly speaking I'm in your camp.

For me the worse female match commentator is Vicki Sparks. I hate her voice with a passion. She speaks in tired old clichés and uses ridiculous inflections in her voice to generate excitement. She even copied the famous Agueerrrro commentary, the one when his late goal won the league for Man City. Leicester scored and she screamed out Vaaarrrrrdy in the same drawn out fashion and sounded like a wailing banshee.

The worse co-commentator by far us Karen Carney. Horrible nasal twang and a lazy way of speaking. She takes hindsight to a new level. If a player has a shot saved by placing it high, she says he should have hit it low and vice versa. Hope the BBC get rid of her ASAP.

Feckin hate Alan Green, glad the BBC dropped him. Worst pundit, Pat Nevin, can't understand a word he says, sounds like he permanently pissed

Idwal Rowling loved Arfon Griffiths. There'd be a seemingly terrible pass but apparently that was due to his team mates not having the vision to have run there.

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Originally Posted by Moodybluebird

You're leaving yourself open to abuse on here mate expressing those sentiments ! Although I'm not quite as anti-woman as you appear to be, broadly speaking I'm in your camp.

For me the worse female match commentator is Vicki Sparks. I hate her voice with a passion. She speaks in tired old clichés and uses ridiculous inflections in her voice to generate excitement. She even copied the famous Agueerrrro commentary, the one when his late goal won the league for Man City. Leicester scored and she screamed out Vaaarrrrrdy in the same drawn out fashion and sounded like a wailing banshee.

The worse co-commentator by far us Karen Carney. Horrible nasal twang and a lazy way of speaking. She takes hindsight to a new level. If a player has a shot saved by placing it high, she says he should have hit it low and vice versa. Hope the BBC get rid of her ASAP.

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I agree completely about Vicki Sparks, I can't listen to her for long, apart from that, the women commentators don't bother me and someone like Alex Scott is a better analyst than most of the men,

As for the men, I've never really got why Martin Tyler is so highly rated, same with Motson - Barry Davies was much better than him. Guy Mowbray's alright and I don't mind Johnathan Pearce when he commentates naturally rather than acting at it like he did in his early days. I think Steve Wilson is the best of the current crop though and although the "part Geordie" sounds like a full Geordie to me, I enjoy listening to John Murray.

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

I agree completely about Vicki Sparks, I can't listen to her for long, apart from that, the women commentators don't bother me and someone like Alex Scott is a better analyst than most of the men,

As for the men, I've never really got why Martin Tyler is so highly rated, same with Motson - Barry Davies was much better than him. Guy Mowbray's alright and I don't mind Johnathan Pearce when he commentates naturally rather than acting at it like he did in his early days. I think Steve Wilson is the best of the current crop though and although the "part Geordie" sounds like a full Geordie to me, I enjoy listening to John Murray.

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It drives me around the twist how Alex Scott doesn't pronounce her t's.

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Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie

It drives me around the twist how Alex Scott doesn't pronounce her t's.

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Danny Gabbidon is even worse at that.

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

No its banned mate by the clubs I am in

Wheres the river Blackwater?

If it was a coarse river I would wait till the floods were over and fish in the smaller rivers running off it where the small fish take cover and that's where the pike and perch which is what I am into go to hunt them

I have access to a few small rivers but can't fish for trout , even if I could , as the season is march to September

Only fished a stillwater for trout once or twice , are they open all year round your way ?

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River Blackwater runs near Sandhurst on the Berks/Hants border then into the Loddon south of Reading which then joins the Thames east of Reading.

Some Stillwater trout fishing round here but in winter it’s all lure ripping which ain’t my cuppa.

Might have a go spinning for pike on some of the open waters on the Thames.

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

Our very own Hugh Johns , commentate on 1970 World Cup

Covered HTV sport for ages

God rest his soul

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Hugh John's was great.
He'd say the score was 1- nothing, rather than 1-nil. If a shot was just wide he'd describe it as being perpendicular.
Every commentator has their quirks and he had his fair share.

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

leading on from another thread I think most of them are crap , as are most of the pundits

Clive Tyldesley has got to be the worst of all time ?

Jimmy Hill , complete idiot

Alan Parry , excited scouse school kid

Tony Gubba , potential but like city never made the big time

That part geordie one on the BBC? Get rid of him

Phil Thompson , money for old rope

Martin Tyler .......don't have SKY , is he still on it ? He was OK


Locally anyone remember Idwal Robling ?

Watching Wales v Scotland at anfield 1977 on TV

Welsh team warming up , Idwal says Welsh centre back looks very much like John Toshack ! Fella on microphone says thats because that is John Toshack Idwal

We have all been there

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Hugh Johns used to ruin Soccer Sunday

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Originally Posted by The Bloop

Hugh John's was great.
He'd say the score was 1- nothing, rather than 1-nil. If a shot was just wide he'd describe it as being PERPENDICULAR.
Every commentator has their quirks and he had his fair share.

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My memory says that he used to say it was "ADJACENT", horrible word for football.

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Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie

It drives me around the twist how Alex Scott doesn't pronounce her t's.

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She was always downing us, when we were in the prem.

Horrible woman, hope Question of Sport goes down in the ratings

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Originally Posted by Moodybluebird

You're leaving yourself open to abuse on here mate expressing those sentiments ! Although I'm not quite as anti-woman as you appear to be, broadly speaking I'm in your camp.

For me the worse female match commentator is Vicki Sparks. I hate her voice with a passion. She speaks in tired old clichés and uses ridiculous inflections in her voice to generate excitement. She even copied the famous Agueerrrro commentary, the one when his late goal won the league for Man City. Leicester scored and she screamed out Vaaarrrrrdy in the same drawn out fashion and sounded like a wailing banshee.

The worse co-commentator by far us Karen Carney. Horrible nasal twang and a lazy way of speaking. She takes hindsight to a new level. If a player has a shot saved by placing it high, she says he should have hit it low and vice versa. Hope the BBC get rid of her ASAP.

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I'm in this camp as well although Gabby Logan, Kelly Cates, Caroline Barker and the Wurzel girl on Soccer Saturday are all excellent but there are too many now on tv for what they are rather than what they know. The female pundit on Chelsea v Luton yesterday appeared to know very little about the EFL but BBC Wales rugby programmes are even worse. Scrum V now has a female presenter, pundits and interviewers yet when women's football or rugby is shown, there's not a bloke in sight.
Rant over, have a good day.

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

I agree completely about Vicki Sparks, I can't listen to her for long, apart from that, the women commentators don't bother me and someone like Alex Scott is a better analyst than most of the men,

As for the men, I've never really got why Martin Tyler is so highly rated, same with Motson - Barry Davies was much better than him. Guy Mowbray's alright and I don't mind Johnathan Pearce when he commentates naturally rather than acting at it like he did in his early days. I think Steve Wilson is the best of the current crop though and although the "part Geordie" sounds like a full Geordie to me, I enjoy listening to John Murray.

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Do we really need analysts ? Jamie Carragher, Neville spout on before, during and after every game and it's just jibberish. One of the delights of a wet Saturday afternoon when City were away was to sit in front of Gillette Soccer Saturday and enjoy a few middle aged blokes - just like you'd meet at a game - tutting, shaking their heads, having a laugh, a moan. The last thing I want is some smart-arsed bloke or woman explaining the finer points of kicking a bit of leather and plastic around the pitch..

There’s more talking on football highlights shows, than there is action.

I record and fast forward

Tyldesley has got to be the worst ever.
Completely OTT and would be better suited to radio commentary as he would make the listener think the drab nil nil was a classic.

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Originally Posted by BLUETIT

There’s more talking on football highlights shows, than there is action.

I record and fast forward

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Me too.
Lineker, Shearer I simply cannot watch.
Wright used to be okay but he's being sucked in too.

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Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish

Do we really need analysts ? Jamie Carragher, Neville spout on before, during and after every game and it's just jibberish. One of the delights of a wet Saturday afternoon when City were away was to sit in front of Gillette Soccer Saturday and enjoy a few middle aged blokes - just like you'd meet at a game - tutting, shaking their heads, having a laugh, a moan. The last thing I want is some smart-arsed bloke or woman explaining the finer points of kicking a bit of leather and plastic around the pitch..

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If an analyst tells me something about a game I hadn’t noticed I’ve got no problem with them and Alex Scott has done that a few times.

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Originally Posted by BLUETIT

There’s more talking on football highlights shows, than there is action.

I record and fast forward

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I do the same with your posts on here.


Just teasing, old fruit :-)

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

I agree completely about Vicki Sparks, I can't listen to her for long, apart from that, the women commentators don't bother me and someone like Alex Scott is a better analyst than most of the men,

As for the men, I've never really got why Martin Tyler is so highly rated, same with Motson - Barry Davies was much better than him. Guy Mowbray's alright and I don't mind Johnathan Pearce when he commentates naturally rather than acting at it like he did in his early days. I think Steve Wilson is the best of the current crop though and although the "part Geordie" sounds like a full Geordie to me, I enjoy listening to John Murray.

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Thinking of Tyler, here's a comparison with Motty for Gerrard's leveller in the 2006 FA Cup final.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IISJfDnOnJE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8uVF74OqZDY

I reckon we'd all have different opinions on this and think it's good to have a head to head. My vote goes for Tyler. I prefer the way he lets the crowd paint the picture in the immediate aftermath of the goal. It was a 'wow' moment. It was not only one of the greatest ever FA cup final goals, but in the context of how it happened, it was even more unbelievable. Listening to the crowd for several seconds before a simple "stunning". Not much more to say. Sometimes commentators want to use a load of words to describe an event, where pictures and crowd sound would suffice. Barry Davies was the master at it and Tyler is probably second to him in that. I felt that Motty wanted to ram a load of words over the airwaves and it detracted slightly from the moment.

I'd be very interested in other people's views on this.

I love this commentary, Jimmy magee the Irish commentator for maradonas second vs England.

He only says "Different class. Different class."

But it's how he says it. Phenomenal.

https://youtu.be/JmQOwgYQ4eU

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I love this commentary, Jimmy magee the Irish commentator for maradonas second vs England.

He only says "Different class. Different class."

But it's how he says it. Phenomenal.

https://youtu.be/JmQOwgYQ4eU

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Never heard that before. Yes, superb bit of commentary.

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Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee

Never heard that before. Yes, superb bit of commentary.

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You can tell he is blown away by what he's watching. It's all he needs.

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Originally Posted by Des Parrot

Feckin hate Alan Green, glad the BBC dropped him. Worst pundit, Pat Nevin, can't understand a word he says, sounds like he permanently pissed

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Alan Green what a tosser

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Originally Posted by Taffy Blue in Berkshire

River Blackwater runs near Sandhurst on the Berks/Hants border then into the Loddon south of Reading which then joins the Thames east of Reading.

Some Stillwater trout fishing round here but in winter it’s all lure ripping which ain’t my cuppa.

Might have a go spinning for pike on some of the open waters on the Thames.

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imitating prey fish ?

I have done a bit of fly fishing in the past , black and peacock fished just below the surface , on local rivers but too much finesse for me .....like to get out a lure and spin for pike , perch chub or trout on rivers

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Originally Posted by The Bloop

Hugh John's was great.
He'd say the score was 1- nothing, rather than 1-nil. If a shot was just wide he'd describe it as being perpendicular.
Every commentator has their quirks and he had his fair share.

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this is no time for pretty pretty keep ball ......was one of his favourites

Vicki Sparks is absolutely terrible. She sounds like pre pubescent boy doing a cliched impression of a football commentator. I can’t listen to her.

Barry Davies was the best by a country mile. In addition to being an excellent commentator he also knew when to say nothing. 'You sure do miss the silence when it's gone.'

StT.
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One from the past, who remembers Roger Malone ? He used to commentate on most of the west country matches in the 60's and 70's. Used the word "there" after a player's name, especially if they scored. "Chrissie Garland there !" etc. Not a bad commentator but good fun to take the p*ss out of at the time, especially as he was reputedly a Bristol City fan.

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Originally Posted by Steve the Tea

Barry Davies was the best by a country mile. In addition to being an excellent commentator he also knew when to say nothing. 'You sure do miss the silence when it's gone.'

StT.
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Agree that sometimes less is more, especially on TV.
I didn't realise at the time, Dan Maskell on tennis was the master at saying just enough.

Having said that, imagine if you were blind or even partially sighted.
I'd imagine the experience would be much better with a more descriptive commentator.