6PM Curfew - for Men.?

https://www-dailymail-co-uk.cdn.ampp...rd-murder.html

Im sure sky sports will be looking into earlier KO times to adhere to this new measure that they are fully supporting.

Maybe a 6pm curfew for police officers?

I'd estimate at least half that page is about women sharing their experience and showing solidarity with other women. If the headline of the speech used in the opening of the article has got people engaging with the second half then it's not a tactic I would employ but it might have worked.

bring it on, someone else can pop to the shops in the pouring rain next time we need an ingredient after 6.

Baroness Numbskull of Cuckooland more like it. Are we sure she doesn't represent the Monster Raving Loony Party. Lord Sutch would have been proud of her.

33 Female Million in the UK , hopefully majority are safe , the danger is in around urban cities for young children , men , LBGT , BAME in London the stabbings are crazy .

I seen the video and it came across as hyperbole to point out the absurdity of women being asked to 'not go out alone at night'

the fact her suggestion sounds crazy is the point she is making, we wouldn't think of asking men to not go out at night, but women are commonly told this by police, relatives ect,

women often end up having a 'de facto curfew' because it is not regarded as safe to be outside alone after dark.

I am not saying that I agree with her point, In fact statistically it is much more dangerous for a young male to be out at night than a young women. However in the interest of fairness I think the context of her point should be recognized.

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Originally Posted by chris lee

I seen the video and it came across as hyperbole to point out the absurdity of women being asked to 'not go out alone at night'

the fact her suggestion sounds crazy is the point she is making, we wouldn't think of asking men to not go out at night, but women are commonly told this by police, relatives ect,

women often end up having a 'de facto curfew' because it is not regarded as safe to be outside alone after dark.

I am not saying that I agree with her point, In fact statistically it is much more dangerous for a young male to be out at night than a young women. However in the interest of fairness I think the context of her point should be recognized.

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Nobody would argue with her concern for women's safety on the streets at night but her proposal to introduce a 6pm curfew for men tells me one thing. She's absolutely bonkers

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Originally Posted by Moodybluebird

Nobody would argue with her concern for women's safety on the streets at night but her proposal to introduce a 6pm curfew for men tells me one thing. She's absolutely bonkers

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Is that what she is suggesting, or is it to highlight the fact that women are told not to go out on their own at certain times, like the previous poster alluded to.

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I wouldn't even wipe my backside with the DM

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Originally Posted by ToTaL ITK

I wouldn't even wipe my backside with the DM

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Always had you down as a Sunday Sport reader anyhow lol

If we assume she's using it as a way of conveying her message, rather than it being a hill she wants to die on, the method of messaging seems to have failed.

Saw a thing earlier which used an apparent American study to have firstly men and then women describe actions they take to prevent being attacked, abused or raped. In the men's column they said it's not something they think about it while in women's column there was a long list that included not going jogging at night, checking backseat before getting into a car, not going in lifts with a lone man/group of men, avoiding woods even in daytime, avoiding making eye contact with men when walking in the street...

I guess the curfew point, though apparently badly made, is what can men do to make that list for women much shorter/not exist?

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Originally Posted by Moodybluebird

Nobody would argue with her concern for women's safety on the streets at night but her proposal to introduce a 6pm curfew for men tells me one thing. She's absolutely bonkers

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Have you actually read the article? She's clearly just making a point :shrug:

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Originally Posted by Moodybluebird

Always had you down as a Sunday Sport reader anyhow lol

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its hard to find good journalism. if you have any tips

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Originally Posted by surge

If we assume she's using it as a way of conveying her message, rather than it being a hill she wants to die on, the method of messaging seems to have failed.

Saw a thing earlier which used an apparent American study to have firstly men and then women describe actions they take to prevent being attacked, abused or raped. In the men's column they said it's not something they think about it while in women's column there was a long list that included not going jogging at night, checking backseat before getting into a car, not going in lifts with a lone man/group of men, avoiding woods even in daytime, avoiding making eye contact with men when walking in the street...

I guess the curfew point, though apparently badly made, is what can men do to make that list for women much shorter/not exist?

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Seen something similar a few years ago where women were asked what they'd do if for 1 day men didn't exist. Vast majority said go for walk, walk in a national park, walk at night.

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Originally Posted by OurManFlint II

Seen something similar a few years ago where women were asked what they'd do if for 1 day men didn't exist. Vast majority said go for walk, walk in a national park, walk at night.

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I feel bad that Women feel that way, but do question if the potential threat justifies the need to be living in fear. Maybe I am naïve, but I did lots of backpacking through Asia, Europe and North America in my early twenties. I met many fellow like minded backpackers, mainly in hostels who were solo girl travelers in their early twenties.

Unfortunately I am sure some of them did have negative experiences (as did I) but on the whole I never heard of anything genuinely bad happening and they had all the positive memories and benefits that solo travelling around the world provides, I would encourage my daughter to have similar experiences, I would worry of course but I also realise that the threat is small in comparison to the damage wrapping her up in cotton wool would do.

Sludge can hopefully shed some light on this.
He’s been under a 6pm curfew around the Bridgend area for yrs.

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Originally Posted by Moodybluebird

Nobody would argue with her concern for women's safety on the streets at night but her proposal to introduce a 6pm curfew for men tells me one thing. She's absolutely bonkers

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Are you taking the piss or genuinely not understanding the point? It's a metaphor mate

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Originally Posted by Llandaff Blue

Are you taking the piss or genuinely not understanding the point? It's a metaphor mate

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I know people who’ve taken the words literally.

As men we have to think what can we do differently to make the area safer for women.

There’s not a huge amount we can do apart from encourage spending on police, street lighting and probably speaking up when other men are being ****s

Most already do that so there’s not much that we can really do. Such a shame but it’s just life. There’s a lot of nutters out there

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Originally Posted by WJ99mobile

As men we have to think what can we do differently to make the area safer for women.

There’s not a huge amount we can do apart from encourage spending on police, street lighting and probably speaking up when other men are being ****s

Most already do that so there’s not much that we can really do. Such a shame but it’s just life. There’s a lot of nutters out there

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Mad statement, unless you're being ironic?

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Originally Posted by WJ99mobile

Most already do that so there’s not much that we can really do. Such a shame but it’s just life. There’s a lot of nutters out there

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I don’t think this is the case is it

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Originally Posted by Croesy Blue

I don’t think this is the case is it

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Agreed, the same applies to women too. People are incentivised to not challenge authority and not create waves, people are quite often publicly ostracised for standing up for what they believe in.

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Originally Posted by Llandaff Blue

Are you taking the piss or genuinely not understanding the point? It's a metaphor mate

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The issue as usual is that some people will misinterpret the point as a serious policy proposal and then eventually that will get used the 'anti woke' lot to belittle the actual issue.

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The issue as usual is that some people will misinterpret the point as a serious policy proposal and then eventually that will get used the 'anti woke' lot to belittle the actual issue.

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Nailed it

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Originally Posted by surge

If we assume she's using it as a way of conveying her message, rather than it being a hill she wants to die on, the method of messaging seems to have failed.

Saw a thing earlier which used an apparent American study to have firstly men and then women describe actions they take to prevent being attacked, abused or raped. In the men's column they said it's not something they think about it while in women's column there was a long list that included not going jogging at night, checking backseat before getting into a car, not going in lifts with a lone man/group of men, avoiding woods even in daytime, avoiding making eye contact with men when walking in the street...

I guess the curfew point, though apparently badly made, is what can men do to make that list for women much shorter/not exist?

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rapists are gonna rape, murderers are gonna murder. There's nothing we can do about that as our punishment of criminals doesn't stop the crime itself.

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Originally Posted by WJ99mobile

As men we have to think what can we do differently to make the area safer for women.

There’s not a huge amount we can do apart from encourage spending on police, street lighting and probably speaking up when other men are being ****s

Most already do that so there’s not much that we can really do. Such a shame but it’s just life. There’s a lot of nutters out there

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what could you have done to stop this latest murder?

incidentally, the single biggest demographic that are the victims of murder and children under 1. Infanticide caused by post partum depression in women is higher than any other form of murder. Should we take all new borns off women just to be safe?

sounds daft doesn't it.

Does this mean, if you are in the pub at 6pm, you gotta stay there till the morning !?

It'll lead to a lot of alcoholism and divorces !

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Originally Posted by BLUETIT

Does this mean, if you are in the pub at 6pm, you gotta stay there till the morning !?

It'll lead to a lot of alcoholism and divorces !

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for every negative there's a positive

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Originally Posted by Feedback

what could you have done to stop this latest murder?

incidentally, the single biggest demographic that are the victims of murder and children under 1. Infanticide caused by post partum depression in women is higher than any other form of murder. Should we take all new borns off women just to be safe?

sounds daft doesn't it.

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You are out of date: https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulat...ndingmarch2019

“The most common age-group for victims of homicides recorded in the year ending March 2019 was 25- to 34-year-olds (136 victims). This was followed by 16- to 24-year-olds (113 victims), and 35- to 44-year-olds (107 victims) and 45- to 54- year-olds (107 victims). (Figure 3).”

And also you missed the point. This debate is about sexual harassment and gender equality

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You are out of date: https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulat...ndingmarch2019

“The most common age-group for victims of homicides recorded in the year ending March 2019 was 25- to 34-year-olds (136 victims). This was followed by 16- to 24-year-olds (113 victims), and 35- to 44-year-olds (107 victims) and 45- to 54- year-olds (107 victims). (Figure 3).”

And also you missed the point. This debate is about sexual harassment and gender equality

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firstly, the age range of those under 1 is less than a year. You are claiming the 25-34 age group - ten years - is greater than those under 1. It is not. More babies under 1 are murdered each year than at any other age. Read table 4 of the stats of your own analysis

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulat...nglandandwales

for someone who claims to study economics your interpretation of data is lacking. look up the concept of normalisation.

you've also missed point by a country mile. Infanticide, specifically the murder of children under the age of 1, forms the single biggest group by age, and is caused predominantly by women. Yet we aren't blaming women as a whole for this as to do so would be assuming all women are to blame. thats absurd.

It follows that the murder of a woman by a man should not be about gender and looking to blame men, but about the murderer's own psychotic issues and look to understand what caused them

To slightly misquote that Daniel Sloss video going around...

"When 1 in 10 men are sh*t and the other 9 do nothing they may as well not be there. You have to be actively good."

Being actively good will contribute to undoing/slowing the build up of some people's psychotic issues, it will take away some of the opportunity for those "murders are going to murder etc." including women behind those infanticide figures.

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Originally Posted by surge

To slightly misquote that Daniel Sloss video going around...

"When 1 in 10 men are sh*t and the other 9 do nothing they may as well not be there. You have to be actively good."

Being actively good will contribute to undoing/slowing the build up of some people's psychotic issues, it will take away some of the opportunity for those "murders are going to murder etc." including women behind those infanticide figures.

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its an interesting proposition. How would you or I castigating sludge for his posts about women have helped to stop this week's murder?

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Originally Posted by surge

To slightly misquote that Daniel Sloss video going around...

"When 1 in 10 men are sh*t and the other 9 do nothing they may as well not be there. You have to be actively good."

Being actively good will contribute to undoing/slowing the build up of some people's psychotic issues, it will take away some of the opportunity for those "murders are going to murder etc." including women behind those infanticide figures.

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It’s spot on, like with everything shit in this world if people are actively good it’ll make a difference even if it’s just a small difference individually.

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Originally Posted by Feedback

firstly, the age range of those under 1 is less than a year. You are claiming the 25-34 age group - ten years - is greater than those under 1. It is not. More babies under 1 are murdered each year than at any other age. Read table 4 of the stats of your own analysis

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulat...nglandandwales

for someone who claims to study economics your interpretation of data is lacking. look up the concept of normalisation.

you've also missed point by a country mile. Infanticide, specifically the murder of children under the age of 1, forms the single biggest group by age, and is caused predominantly by women. Yet we aren't blaming women as a whole for this as to do so would be assuming all women are to blame. thats absurd.

It follows that the murder of a woman by a man should not be about gender and looking to blame men, but about the murderer's own psychotic issues and look to understand what caused them

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I can’t imagine how anyone can be this much of a twat :hehe:

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Originally Posted by Croesy Blue

I can’t imagine how anyone can be this much of a twat :hehe:

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you can only begin to imagine my shock that we find out that once again, you've got nothing constructive to add.

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Originally Posted by Croesy Blue

It’s spot on, like with everything shit in this world if people are actively good it’ll make a difference even if it’s just a small difference individually.

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Being less indulgent or engaged with people to proudly boast about indecent exposure and masturbation in a crowded night club would be a good start I guess.

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Originally Posted by Feedback

what could you have done to stop this latest murder?

incidentally, the single biggest demographic that are the victims of murder and children under 1. Infanticide caused by post partum depression in women is higher than any other form of murder. Should we take all new borns off women just to be safe?

sounds daft doesn't it.

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Well since hed recently been arrested for indecent exposure maybe locking him up before he committed murder. Or at least tag him so he couldnt leave the house.