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GET CASTLE STREET OPEN TO TRAFFIC, voting form hopefully here.
https://keepingcardiffmoving.co.uk/p.../castlestreet/
I know there are some who want it to remain shut to traffic, but for those of you with common sense, please vote to get our City moving.
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Re: GET CASTLE STREET OPEN TO TRAFFIC, voting form hopefully here.
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Re: GET CASTLE STREET OPEN TO TRAFFIC, voting form hopefully here.
I know we are a lot of old dinosaurs on here, but there is a bigger picture that might not effect us, but will effect our children and grandchildren.
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Re: GET CASTLE STREET OPEN TO TRAFFIC, voting form hopefully here.
Just done it. Not a very good survey. For example, they ask you how often you use Castle Street - when it's been closed to traffic for months. They also ask you to tick which age group you fall into but mine (55-65) is missing completely. They also wanted to know if I identify as trans. Do they have different cars to the rest of us?
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Re: GET CASTLE STREET OPEN TO TRAFFIC, voting form hopefully here.
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Originally Posted by
Former Labour leader
I know we are a lot of old dinosaurs on here, but there is a bigger picture that might not effect us, but will effect our children and grandchildren.
I the interest in equality, you can vote to keep it shut if you want.
Never let it be said, "I'm not fair" :hehe:
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Re: GET CASTLE STREET OPEN TO TRAFFIC, voting form hopefully here.
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Re: GET CASTLE STREET OPEN TO TRAFFIC, voting form hopefully here.
The more people are discouraged from using cars the better? The majority of us use cars out of laziness.
Then again, banning stuff without offering an alternative is also silly.
Will transport links to the city centre be improved?
Why is castle street so essential anyway? Just go via the bay or gabalfa if you want to get from one side to the other?
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Re: GET CASTLE STREET OPEN TO TRAFFIC, voting form hopefully here.
I do wonder what has happened, the real reason, for CCC to offer the option to the city dwellers.
Could it be that the residents affluent area of Llandaff are up in arms due to the volume of traffic now passing their homes since the closure?
Perhaps they realised that the iminent volume of traffic from the development in the north west will bring the city to a standstill?
Whatever the reason, a lot of time and money could have been saved had they had they offered this option to the public before the change and a proper rationale given.
Signed!
By the way, it's rumoured that the M4 could be back on!
Anyone else heard?
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Re: GET CASTLE STREET OPEN TO TRAFFIC, voting form hopefully here.
I've voted for a turret to be built for bluetit on the castle wall so that he can count the diners if it does end up pedestrianised.
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Re: GET CASTLE STREET OPEN TO TRAFFIC, voting form hopefully here.
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Originally Posted by
Tuerto
I've voted for a turret to be built for bluetit on the castle wall so that he can count the diners if it does end up pedestrianised.
it's definitely going to be pedestrianised, I cancelled his vote out with mine so he can enjoy a panini filled summer
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Re: GET CASTLE STREET OPEN TO TRAFFIC, voting form hopefully here.
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Originally Posted by
delmbox
it's definitely going to be pedestrianised, I cancelled his vote out with mine so he can enjoy a panini filled summer
Well done delm, I've got hundreds of email accounts, that should swing it in our favour.
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Re: GET CASTLE STREET OPEN TO TRAFFIC, voting form hopefully here.
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Originally Posted by
delmbox
it's definitely going to be pedestrianised, I cancelled his vote out with mine so he can enjoy a panini filled summer
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Originally Posted by
Tuerto
Well done delm, I've got hundreds of email accounts, that should swing it in our favour.
I've also identified as 'Trans' which as we all know, counts as 100 votes to a straight white males 1 vote, what with the council promoting equality. I'm ahead of the game butt.
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Re: GET CASTLE STREET OPEN TO TRAFFIC, voting form hopefully here.
I haven't got any common sense so haven't answered the survey.
With regards to the M4 relief road question- I believe that Boris is considering it as part of his uk wide infrastructure plan.
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Re: GET CASTLE STREET OPEN TO TRAFFIC, voting form hopefully here.
I vote open Queen Street again to two lanes of speeding traffic, didn’t half keep you alert on those pavements on a packed Saturday. Death defying looking back on it, those pavements were so narrow and they’d be heaving with people, if you were near the kerb the wind from the buses would part your hair. :hehe:
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Re: GET CASTLE STREET OPEN TO TRAFFIC, voting form hopefully here.
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splott parker
I vote open Queen Street again to two lanes of speeding traffic, didn’t half keep you alert on those pavements on a packed Saturday. Death defying looking back on it, those pavements were so narrow and they’d be heaving with people, if you were near the kerb the wind from the buses would part your hair. :hehe:
That's actually a good idea. It would be fun watching people staring into their phone, not looking where they're going, headphones in, getting clipped by a no 27 bus.
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Re: GET CASTLE STREET OPEN TO TRAFFIC, voting form hopefully here.
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Tuerto
That's actually a good idea. It would be fun watching people staring into their phone, not looking where they're going, headphones in, getting clipped by a no 27 bus.
Do you remember it Tuerto? It’s a good few years back now but, Christ, it was manic. People being forced to walk in the gutter through the volume of bodies on the pavement with lorries skimming past them, it was like extreme sports:hehe:
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Re: GET CASTLE STREET OPEN TO TRAFFIC, voting form hopefully here.
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Originally Posted by
BLUETIT
I the interest in equality, you can vote to keep it shut if you want.
Never let it be said, "I'm not fair" :hehe:
Mate of mine is quite high up in the council.....it will never open like before again he says. In fact, they plan to reduce traffic on more roads around the centre
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Re: GET CASTLE STREET OPEN TO TRAFFIC, voting form hopefully here.
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Originally Posted by
goats
Mate of mine is quite high up in the council.....it will never open like before again he says. In fact, they plan to reduce traffic on more roads around the centre
:thumbup:
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Re: GET CASTLE STREET OPEN TO TRAFFIC, voting form hopefully here.
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goats
Mate of mine is quite high up in the council.....it will never open like before again he says. In fact, they plan to reduce traffic on more roads around the centre
Make train travel a £1 and free park and ride and crack on closing every road as far as I care.
Let’s hope this metro is a success
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Re: GET CASTLE STREET OPEN TO TRAFFIC, voting form hopefully here.
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Originally Posted by
WJ99mobile
Make train travel a £1 and free park and ride and crack on closing every road as far as I care.
Let’s hope this metro DREAM is a success
:facepalm:
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Re: GET CASTLE STREET OPEN TO TRAFFIC, voting form hopefully here.
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Originally Posted by
WJ99mobile
Make train travel a £1 and free park and ride and crack on closing every road as far as I care.
Let’s hope this metro is a success
I can see free park and ride but I'm sure people are gonna have to pay for their own drugs.
(Well you should've added your comma :hehe:)
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Re: GET CASTLE STREET OPEN TO TRAFFIC, voting form hopefully here.
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Originally Posted by
splott parker
Do you remember it Tuerto? It’s a good few years back now but, Christ, it was manic. People being forced to walk in the gutter through the volume of bodies on the pavement with lorries skimming past them, it was like extreme sports:hehe:
Vaguely, I was very young when it was pedestrianised. I can obviously remember St Mary st when it had traffic, used to get the bus there. The stop i used was outside of some horrendous rough arsed clubs that concentrated on shite stereotypical eighties stuff. Always used to be fights there and the police arresting fat middle aged blokes and women. It was dangerous.
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Re: GET CASTLE STREET OPEN TO TRAFFIC, voting form hopefully here.
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Originally Posted by
Tuerto
Vaguely, I was very young when it was pedestrianised. I can obviously remember St Mary st when it had traffic, used to get the bus there. The stop i used was outside of some horrendous rough arsed clubs that concentrated on shite stereotypical eighties stuff. Always used to be fights there and the police arresting FAT MIDDLE AGED BLOKES and women. It was dangerous.
No need to describe "Splott Parker" like that :hehe::hehe:
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Re: GET CASTLE STREET OPEN TO TRAFFIC, voting form hopefully here.
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Originally Posted by
The Bloop
I haven't got any common sense so haven't answered the survey.
With regards to the M4 relief road question- I believe that Boris is considering it as part of his uk wide infrastructure plan.
Boris is trying to engineer votes for Tories in Wales and plans on withholding money from Wales if not spent on M4 relief road. But, just like the Boris bridge I or II or Boris water cannon, it doesn't make sense. Unless we're ready to talk about an M4 relief, relief road already.
Keeping Castle Street closed to traffic also, probably, doesn't make sense given layout of City centre.
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Re: GET CASTLE STREET OPEN TO TRAFFIC, voting form hopefully here.
I presume this is the bus lane as you go past the Hilton
Also why cant we have a tunnel from weston to our side :hehe::hehe::hehe::hehe:
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Re: GET CASTLE STREET OPEN TO TRAFFIC, voting form hopefully here.
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Originally Posted by
surge
Boris is trying to engineer votes for Tories in Wales and plans on withholding money from Wales if not spent on M4 relief road. But, just like the Boris bridge I or II or Boris water cannon, it doesn't make sense. Unless we're ready to TALK about an M4 relief, relief road already.
Keeping Castle Street closed to traffic also, probably, doesn't make sense given layout of City centre.
They have SPENT billions on it already, what's to talk about ?
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Re: GET CASTLE STREET OPEN TO TRAFFIC, voting form hopefully here.
The layout of the city centre and north of it is pretty much restricted traffic wise. With Castle St closed the only through roads from east to west from town up are Tyndall St/ Callaghan Sq/ Penarth Rd and then Western Avenue. That’s a fair old distance of stop ends, the city centre itself, the castle, the castle grounds, Blackweir and all of North Rd up to the flyover. It’s like the Berlin Wall separating two parts of a short distance. Difficult to sort out with all that parkland, which we don’t want to lose to an intermediate through road. Bit of a distance from Cardiff Bridge to Western Avenue Bridge, most cities with a river running through it have a series of road/rail bridges quite close together. 100 years ago the buildings in front of the castle green were being demolished to allow a freer flow of traffic, it opened up the front of the castle, which wasn’t a bad thing, perhaps they should have gone the whole hog and tunnelled under Blackweir, the river, Sophia Gardens & Pontcanna Fields opposite the Law Courts. I’m blaming the city fathers of that time for lack of foresight although we’d all be complaining now about the tunnel being only two lanes:hehe:
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Re: GET CASTLE STREET OPEN TO TRAFFIC, voting form hopefully here.
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Originally Posted by
surge
Boris is trying to engineer votes for Tories in Wales and plans on withholding money from Wales if not spent on M4 relief road. But, just like the Boris bridge I or II or Boris water cannon, it doesn't make sense. Unless we're ready to talk about an M4 relief, relief road already.
Keeping Castle Street closed to traffic also, probably, doesn't make sense given layout of City centre.
I dont think they should close it now. As you say the layout doesn't suit. However, keeping it open indefinitely doesn't make sense either. They should incorporate plans to eventually close it once alternative east/west solutions have been explored and implemented.
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Re: GET CASTLE STREET OPEN TO TRAFFIC, voting form hopefully here.
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Originally Posted by
BLUETIT
They have SPENT billions on it already, what's to talk about ?
Billions?! I hope you get an accountant to do your books,Tone :hehe:
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Re: GET CASTLE STREET OPEN TO TRAFFIC, voting form hopefully here.
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Heisenberg
Billions?! I hope you get an accountant to do your books,Tone :hehe:
Artistic license :hehe:
https://www.southwalesargus.co.uk/ne...ief-road-went/
Which you and me could have told um for £20 each :hehe:
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Re: GET CASTLE STREET OPEN TO TRAFFIC, voting form hopefully here.
The area should be completely closed off and pedestrianised to join up with Queen Street and St Mary street, to make the area more appealing to shoppers and visitors.
I wouldn’t even allow buses or cyclists.
I believe when it was open, it had the fourth most street pollution in the UK.
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Re: GET CASTLE STREET OPEN TO TRAFFIC, voting form hopefully here.
As a non Cardiff resident I'm quite happy to vote to keep it closed.
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Re: GET CASTLE STREET OPEN TO TRAFFIC, voting form hopefully here.
Cardiff needs a tram running from central station to queens street station via westgate st castle st, queen st, station terrace, then back to central via bridge st, custom st and Saunders rd..
Then pedestrianised the rest.
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Re: GET CASTLE STREET OPEN TO TRAFFIC, voting form hopefully here.
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Originally Posted by
Bluebird23
The area should be completely closed off and pedestrianised to join up with Queen Street and St Mary street, to make the area more appealing to shoppers and visitors.
I wouldn’t even allow buses or cyclists.
I believe when it was open, it had the fourth most street pollution in the UK.
Pray tell, if you are banning busses, how are the people of Cardiff & all it's visitors going to get access to our Train Station and shops. ?
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Re: GET CASTLE STREET OPEN TO TRAFFIC, voting form hopefully here.
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BLUETIT
Pray tell, if you are banning busses, how are the people of Cardiff & all it's visitors going to get access to our Train Station and shops. ?
The same way they did when the road was recently completely closed off.
It’s not the only way to access the city centre.
Buses can go to Churchill Way, Westgate Street, Station Terrace, Penarth Road.
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Re: GET CASTLE STREET OPEN TO TRAFFIC, voting form hopefully here.
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Originally Posted by
Bluebird23
The same way they did when the road was recently completely closed off.
It’s not the only way to access the city centre.
Buses can go to Churchill Way, Westgate Street, Station Terrace, Penarth Road.
But NOT the train station + NO connections to get across the City for old people or mums with prams.
very selfish of people, to just think of themselves
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Originally Posted by
BLUETIT
But NOT the train station + NO connections to get across the City for old people or mums with prams.
very selfish of people, to just think of themselves
What are you on about, you can access the train station’s rear entrance from Penarth Road, and the front entrance from buses that stop at Station Terrace, Westgate Street and come up Tudor Street.
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Re: GET CASTLE STREET OPEN TO TRAFFIC, voting form hopefully here.
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Originally Posted by
Bluebird23
What are you on about, you can access the train station’s rear entrance from Penarth Road, and the front entrance from buses that stop at Station Terrace, Westgate Street and come up Tudor Street.
What about people from North Cardiff, busses only go to Grayfriers, under your system !
That's about 1 mile from the station
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Re: GET CASTLE STREET OPEN TO TRAFFIC, voting form hopefully here.
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Originally Posted by
BLUETIT
What about people from North Cardiff, busses only go to Grayfriers, under your system !
That's about 1 mile from the station
As I’ve pointed out a couple of times, buses go close to the train station, from multiple areas of the city.
Previously you posted people couldn’t get in to the city centre.
Now we’ve ascertained they can via Churchill Way, Penarth Road, Station Terrace, Westgate Street and Greyfriars Road.....how many more access points exactly do you need!
By the way, walking it’s half a mile from greyfriars road to the station, not a mile.
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Re: GET CASTLE STREET OPEN TO TRAFFIC, voting form hopefully here.
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Originally Posted by
Bluebird23
As I’ve pointed out a couple of times, buses go close to the train station, from multiple areas of the city.
Previously you posted people couldn’t get in to the city centre.
Now we’ve ascertained they can via Churchill Way, Penarth Road, Station Terrace, Westgate Street and Greyfriars Road.....how many more access points exactly do you need!
By the way, walking it’s half a mile from greyfriars road to the station, not a mile.
I said all of this back in the summer. :thumbup:
