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Like Neil Warnock Mick knows how important this game is.
It's fascinating to see how he approaches the game.
Who will start?
Will we close them down at the back like we did in that famous Bellamy strike win?
Will the Jack's be on form.
I anticipate a fast furious game if the referee doesn't interfere.
Will get a good sky audience I think.
A draw looks likely.
So love football.
Just win please Mick , by applying a very robust risk type approach to each tackle , and second ball challenges .
Let's hope he can motivate them better than Warnock, who in his one game against them at the Liberty sent out a team that looked like half of them had been out on a bender in Wind St the night before and had woken up a couple of hours earlier after sleeping rough on Mumbles Pier.Quote:
Originally Posted by AlwaysAway2
Eh?Quote:
Originally Posted by life on mars
"Like Neil Warnock"? I ****ing hope not, Warnock just treated them just like any other game.Quote:
Originally Posted by AlwaysAway2
Like Warnock? We were dreadful when we went to the Liberty under Warnock, completely gutlessQuote:
Originally Posted by AlwaysAway2
like warbmnock?..is he havin a laff
Too right, we never beat them under him did we? Harris was even worse, we turn up on Valium and as usual they are on crackQuote:
Originally Posted by NYCBlue
They are ripe at the moment so no better time to play them, they will be losing it as 2nd spot slips away.....we should def go there and go for it no sitting back
Thats a very wordy version of...Quote:
Originally Posted by jon1959
Get into them. **** them up.
The Jacks are obsessed with this fixture. Infinitely more than we are, as fans and as a club. We will NEVER be more up for it than them. The problems begin when they are also a better team. They probably are this year unfortunately. We are going to have to play damn well.
As they have the chance of the first ever double & a top 2 slot they’ll be motivated. Our current team will also be motivated, the attitude is now right again but I can’t see Mick doing anything radically different. Wilson & Murphy will be back in, think Ng & Sang will both start, Nelson back in in place of Brown. Pack & Vaulks in the middle. Usual low possession, high press, hit them on the break. A red card in the mix somewhere
I thought Nelson was still injured? I'd give Vaulks a rest, he's been looking very tiredQuote:
Originally Posted by Des Parrot
You’re right I didn’t realise. So the same team that started against Sjoke then but Murphy & Wilson in for Bacuna & Ojo thenQuote:
Originally Posted by City123
Two shite teams, fixture will be massively overhyped as usual, and a compete anti climax.
Probably a bore draw.
Mick won’t be too unhappy, all he’s interested in is not losing.
He probably won’t make his first sub untill the 75th minute, and then ‘go for it’, by bringing his next sub on with five minutes left.
The last decent Derby game was the 2-2 draw at Ninian in 2009.
Now that, was a cracking game!
https://youtu.be/sDZl8r6cCR0
Bollox, what about chops last minute winner? Bellers sublime curler at the library? If my memory serves me right that 2-2 wasn’t great at all, early k o, no atmosphere and we were very lucky to get a point.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bluebird23
There’s part of me that wouldn’t be too disappointed by a defeat on Saturday - it’d maybe give the club the kick up the backside it needs.
A draw maybe to keep us in the mix? They are floundering a bit but always seem to rise up when we turn up, be nice if we did for a change. They’ve lost to the wurzels, Bournemouth and hudds recently, they are beatable.Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
Nothing to lose....we ain’t going down
Back in December, I thought there was a huge gap between the two clubs, but what’s happened since then suggests it’s not as big as I thought - I still think that if both teams play to their best, the jacks win though.Quote:
Originally Posted by goats
I’m a hypocrite really because I always say I see Bristol City as our main rivals, but I lost it after the first match with the jacks because, for the third time in four games against them, we didn’t turn up - City teams from ten to fifteen years ago, “got” the Swansea game (they may have lost some of them, but they got it) I’d be quite happy after a defeat on Saturday which showed that the present lot did as well.
A goal would be nice.
There will be no-one more aware of what this means to the fans than the players that have played in these matches before. They won't want the social media rinsing they got last time.
As an aside I'll be having a small wager on Valks being sent off if he plays.:frown:
Yes a goal would be a start, it’s been a while!Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee
And of course the home game in the PL, yes it was in red but Caulker's towering header and their keeper being sent off was greatQuote:
Originally Posted by goats
Agreed. Even when they’re arguably better on paper they tend to have that underdog / chip on shoulder edge for this fixture that we just don’t seem to muster in the same way. Always feel they start with a couple of % points of an advantage because of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave Blue
Platitude I know, but first goal could be very crucial. Although they’ve gotten a bit sloppy recently they’ve had a pretty mean defence this season. Saying that, we’ve netted a fair amount over the course of it too.
Shame there’s no crowd for an evening fixture, beats the noon KOs (or earlier).
I don’t think their recent form will be too much of a barometer, as they always seem to be more motivated than us.
They’ve also got the carrot of top 2.
Avoiding defeat is realistically the best we can hope for, particularly with key players looking worn out.
Of course hoping for a draw isnt the best we can hope for. They are Swansea not Man City. They will probably have Fulton and Smith in centre midfield , no out and out striker and a ropey keeper.
We are more than capable of winning.
Those games were great wins, dull matches.Quote:
Originally Posted by goats
Again, great win, rubbish game.Quote:
Originally Posted by City123
Would not like to call this one both teams on pretty poor form at the moment. At least we are hard to beat but not much more than that. As someone else has said if things are going poorly I hope we don't wait till 15 minutes from the end before making a subsistution. Hopefully Wilson and Murphy are rested. The team owe us a good performance after all the poor ones in this game recently.
There hasn't been an occasion that I can recall were we had as many Welsh players/internationals in our squad so the players should be under no illusions about how this game isn't just another one.
Also for fans living in Cardiff and the majority of the valleys who are surrounded by fellow bluebirds, I can assure you it's not like that living in Neath or Port Talbot. So as someone once said, I'd love it if we beat them, love it.
Pretty poor form?
current form table:
1. Barnsley
2. Norwich
3. Watford
4. Cardiff
5. QPR
6. Swansea
Jacks are 9th over past 4 games, City are 13th over the same period.Quote:
Originally Posted by Des Parrot
Jacks are 10th over past 6 games, City are 11th.
City are 5th over past 8 games, Swansea are 9th.
Think doing it over 10 games, as you have, helps identify who is sustaining a successful run, and we can see which direction they're trending in when looking at different points as above, but form should be decided over past 4 or 6 games only.
Both sides in midtable form and we've fallen off quite a bit from when we were 4th best.