No fair minded person will ever pay the licence fee again after the horror of what they did to Princess Diana sinks in.
It's game over for the Beeb.
Discuss.
The seasons over.
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No fair minded person will ever pay the licence fee again after the horror of what they did to Princess Diana sinks in.
It's game over for the Beeb.
Discuss.
The seasons over.
Really?Quote:
Originally Posted by AlwaysAway2
Prince William's response was blisteringQuote:
Originally Posted by AlwaysAway2
I read the story earlier....pretty shitty.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee
It saddens me greatly as to what has become of the BBC.
strange how this story has come out just as the Tories are plotting the demise of the BBC behind closed doors.
you'd have thought they'd be able to do better than someone was tricked into doing an interview 25 years ago.
Oh dear me!Quote:
Originally Posted by Rjk
Indeed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rjk
I’m sure that they can if needs be...
It’s so sad and so indicative of the times that we are in though.
The BBC to me was THE Beacon of fair play growing up.
You just trusted it without batting an eyelid, particularly when I moved here neatly 20 years ago...it was still The Oracle (insert Ceefax joke) to me.
The Saville Saga obviously put an end to that delusion.
Now The BBC is just a pitiful shell of what it was, probably a fair reflection of the country it once served.
It shouldn’t be defunded though.
Hopefully it can be restored to what it could and should be.
I need some help here, is the BBC a bastion of the political left or right today? It's so easy to lose track.
As I am not living in the UK I don't pay a license fee but access BBC news 24 and BBC world service.
Honestly, they are magnificent.
Of course I get to watch question time and BBC news (in the UK) through clips on twitter, youtube and others.
The difference between domestic BBC news and International BBC news is startling.
International BBC news is, in my opinion, fair, balanced and scathing of both the corrupt Tories and PM and also the useless opposition.
Domestic BBC seems to be awful... scared, cowardly and lets be honest Laura Kuenssberg is nothing more than the head of the Tory PR department. The lack of government scrutiny on the BBC and yet quite aggressive towards Labour and SNP is startling.
Within seconds of the Cummings story breaking (by ITV), Laura immediately came to his defence.
Look at leading up to and after the BREXIT vote... while it claimed to take a neutral position they had more unchallenged pro-brexiteers on than any reasonable remain voices... who did we get on for remain, Terry bloody christian..! They knew what they were doing!
But the BBC does not need to be defunded.... it needs an independent commission overseeing it - certainly not Tory donors put in charge.
I don't have a tv licence. Pretty glad now.
because they tricked someone into an interview 25 years ago?Quote:
Originally Posted by Maccy Blue
I fully agree. Very convenient when looking to turn BBC into Tory HQ. It practically is now. As for Prince William saying it worsened C & D’s relationship, it couldn’t have been worse already, that’s why she spoke out. Hardly the BBC ‘s doing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rjk
The Diana thing is shocking but I’m always shocked how quick people are to shit on the BBC with the amount of quality content out out there’s something for everyone.
Radio 4, 6 music, 5 live, great podcast archive, great football coverage, good dramas and comedies that wouldn’t get made by a commercial channel, the website is massive and plenty of quality content (especially the recipe section).
It really is one of those things that people don’t realise what they’ve got until it’s gone.
It’s been made into a political football by the media who have something to gain and the government who want to privatise it and surprise surprise the morons of this country have lapped it up. I despair at the level of education and critical thinking in this country and this board is a good example of how easily led people are.
Not really surprising given that prominent parts of the rest of the media have had a fairly transparent anti bbc agenda for more than a decade, some within the government hate the bbc for ideological reasons and th bbc's position in daily life,is undergoing massive change at the moment as traditional viewing habits are changing hugelyQuote:
Originally Posted by Croesy Blue
BBC’s Media Editor answering the question, “Where does this leave the BBC?”: https://twitter.com/inzyrashid/statu...90022007136256
Before we ever get rid of the BBC we should think about what would replace it within the UK and what it means abroad both for the UK and for other cultures.
anyone who thinks the BBC is left wing is deluded
I watch Channel 4 News
The BBC has always fallen in line with whoever is in government and often has right wing director generals
Micheal Grade for example
During the miners strike the BBC ran a news story on the Battle of Orgreave
First of all it showed miners throwing stones at the police then the mounted police charge in , flatten and batter miners then get clapped back in by their fellow foot officers
That was a fit up , by the BBC. The miners were charged by the mounted police first and the miners retaliated .
The BBC doctored the footage and put it out on the evening news to kid the viewing public .
I have no interest at all in the Diana case , if the BBC has been up to no good it won't be the first time .
BBC Wales .....now thats a steaming pile of horse dung we could get rid of
Apart from the excellent radio football coverage , its generally crap
X Ray
Weatherman Walking
High Hopes
Wales Today
Endless Rugby
I equate BBC coverage to newspaper reports: virtually every report I've read in newspapers about events with which I am familiar has contained inaccuracies.
Pretty well everything the BBC has covered in progs like Panorama about which I have detailed knowledge has been flawed.
Admittedly, that haven't been many such subjects, but even so........
Your earlier post on vaccines does call into question your "detailed knowledge" somewhatQuote:
Originally Posted by Cyclops
Naga Munchetty despise that cow
Misogynist alert :facepalm:Quote:
Originally Posted by Bald Barry Bastad
Me too!Quote:
Originally Posted by Bald Barry Bastad
The point is no one in this day and age should be forced to fund the BBC against there will. You have to pay a license fee even if you never watch the BBC and just watch Netflix and Amazon Prime. It is anachronistic in the 21st century to have a state funded TV Chanel even if some people think it is wonderful. It should be funded in the same way as Netfilx and other subscription channels. If the BBC is so wonderful it will survive and prosper as Netflix does.
I am saddened by by the Bashir deception and the way that the BBC sanctioned and later investigated it whilst ignoring the feedback from those who said that there were faults with the story.Quote:
Originally Posted by AlwaysAway2
Unlike you, having paid the BBC licence for 45 years, I will keep paying it on the basis that despite its faults it has been and is a good organisation that interacts with many of our daily lives and is excellent value for money compared with much of the other media.
I also recall the nastiness and underhand methods displayed by many of our newspapers and their hacks and the agendas that they all have trying to shape our thinking, our lives.
The BBC is right to be lambasted about the Panorama interview and must address it openly and make changes.
Will you be able to watch the Wales games on any other channels?
NO YOU DONT!Quote:
Originally Posted by Shrewsbury Blue
Comparing NETFLIX output with the BBC is ludicrous.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shrewsbury Blue
I think it is wrong to blame the entire BBC for the antics of one bloke. Martin Bashir was out to make a name for himself with his blockbuster interview. It seems obvious that Diana was duped but I think what she said was the reality of the situation anyway - the marriage was breaking down full stop.
Personally, I would do away with royalty everywhere. At least you can vote morons out of office (cf Trump). So the fact it involves the "Windsors" is irrelevant.
There's a pandemic on in case people hadn't noticed. For this minor story to have usurped that in the news agenda is plainly a bigger crime than some tomfoolery with bank statements.
I suspect a lot of the anti-BBC arguments in this thread are promulgated by those who have no idea how bad commercial broadcasters are in other countries. Casual viewing also suggests to me that C4, ITV and even Sky are better for having the BBC as a compeitior. I suspect if you live in the US, as I do, you would know exactly what I mean.
Just under 44p a day, just to have no adverts alone it’s well worth it, not to mention Popmaster. Anyone else get frustrated when tired late at night watching commercial tv? You’re desperate to see the end of a programme but those bloody adverts just drag it out, I’d gladly lob in 50p (6p over) to watch uninterrupted :hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by Shrewsbury Blue
Sort of pinning the marriage problems on Martin Bashir is a bit rich isn’t it? Charles nipping off to service the still married Camilla Parker-Bowles and Diana acting like a Wynford regular may have had a bit to do with it.
This is just flat out wrong, incorrect, lies, not true. Why say it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Shrewsbury Blue
https://www.radiotimes.com/technolog...0BBC%20iPlayer.
Nah - it's cos the bilge they put out is garbage. Never watch tv any more. Haven't for a good five years in fact.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rjk
The licence fee is well worth it. I don’t watch the BBC for its news anyway and imo 13 quid a month for the content available wether that be sport, dramas, documentaries, its second to none. As others have mentioned their radio is top notch too.
To be fair all of those tabloids who did worse things than this on a daily basis and paid the people who chased her car into that tunnel all disappeared overnight when she died. The British public don't forget those sort of things quickly.
Thought this was the start of a Proclaimers song
Yes but you are missing the point. You may think the license fee is well worth the money but other people don't and they are forced to pay the licence fee whether they like it or not. You should have no right to force people to pay for a TV station they don't want to watch.Quote:
Originally Posted by J R Hartley
The BBC would still be available the only difference being you would pay for it by subscription like Netflix,Amazon Prime and Indeed the BBCs own Britbox. Being forced to pay for a TV Chanel on pain of imprisonment is like something they would do in North Korea it doesn't belong in the 21st century. Your argument is I like the BBC so everyone in the country should be forced to pay for it if they have a TV whether they like it or not even I'd they don't watch it.
No it's not flat out wrong as the article points out if I watch ITV Channel four or Sky I still have to pay the BBC for the privilege even if I never watch the BBC.Quote:
Originally Posted by delmbox
Marina Hyde gets it right again.
https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...-bbc-scapegoat
:thumbup:Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
“‘Defund the BBC’ was last night’s pontification from former Sun editor Kelvin Mackenzie, who once put Diana’s covertly recorded private phone calls on a premium-rate line so readers could ring in and have a listen.”
"The BBC makes a convenient scapegoat when in reality all of us were part of the ecosystem that destroyed Diana"
I'll say it for Sludge " bloody right wing nutter she is 'Quote:
Originally Posted by Bald Barry Bastad