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tiny nation
sticking it to the big guns
Onwards
:wales:
A tiny nation that has been sent on a tour of Europe in the last few weeks while some of those big guns you mention have been able to play home game after home game - no complaints today, we were beaten by a much better team, but I hope this is the first and last time we see this format used.Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
:Wales:
A bridge too far.
Some expect us to be world beaters, we have some quality, but not enough.
What a load of bollocks. We stuck it to no one but Turkey who were ****ing shit.Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
Proud of the team , lots of second tier playersQuote:
Originally Posted by NYCBlue
Knackered , the boys did their best against sides with far more players to chose from than us
It is a ridiculous format.Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
Denmark could go all the way. Even Cornelius looked like a world beater tonight ( Pity it is 8 years too late!!)
If we had played well, we could have beat the Swiss and won today. We were ****ing shit. We have more talent now than maybe ever. We didn't show up today.Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
Glad we qualified again, happy we got through the group but unlike 5 years ago we looked happy to make up the numbers today.
No real plan, one way from the first 15 minutes on.
Like with City, we have to move on from the plucky little team. Think we have done enough over the last 5 years to compete with Denmark, but not today.
Did great to get to the tournament , did great to get out of the group
Well done Wales
You can’t fault the effort but our performances will be considered some of the poorest in the competition despite reaching the last 16.
The team was undoubtedly handicapped by the structure of the competition and the policy of countries which meant we basically had near nothing in terms of fans in the stadium.
Rob Page is a good coach but if we had a manager with international nous we could also maximize the talent we have.
My positive take on it is that we are now a nation that qualifies for major tournaments. I’d prefer to be in it with a chance of succeeding than not at all. Brazil got stuffed 7-1 in a world cup in their own country. It doesn’t mean they are a bad side.
It’s the same for this team. On their day, under different circumstances, we can beat Denmark. Just look at Austria against the Italians. Confidence and brilliance are fleeting and fickle but make more of a difference than talent alone.
I love this team and in that sense I’m proud. That said, we can and will do better.
Ramsey didn’t play well today, he seems pivotal to us…..
Brilliant lads
You can't beat rudy Glockner #2 uefa Var and the Facking eu
We looked poor tonight , think our big hitters such as Bale ,Ramsey and Allen are running on empty, we need to step back and let the youngsters perform , especially Wilson and Brooks
I think Denmark managed to nullify our poorer players, which stopped the likes of Bale having any impact.Quote:
Originally Posted by life on mars
Could have been a different game had we taken advantage of the 20 minute spell in the first half where we had them rattled.
We had to score first and had Bale taken his chance like their fella did, it could have been a different outcome albeit a backs to the wall and hit em on the break effort.
No shame in our performance, beaten by the better side who had a bit more quality and tactical nous, with just a little help from the man in the middle.
Yes, we did well to qualify and we did well to get to the last 16, but that shouldn’t mean that they escape from any criticism though. I thought we were shocking today and made Denmark look better than what they are. I felt embarrassed watching that and Page showed his limitations.
We have a good group of youngsters though, so am quite optimistic about the future. Just need a decent manager to nurture that talent.
We have been totally shafted by UEFA in this competition, Let’s take some pride from the fact this is the fourth time we have reached the knock out stages of a major competition. Scotland haven’t managed it once. How many countries of our size have managed to do this?
I am very proud to support Wales. Our supporters are as passionate and compassionate as any in the world. Today was a bad day. So what? It does not undo the fabulous memories we have all shared over the past six or seven years.
I couldn't agree moreQuote:
Originally Posted by Pearcey3
BBC News - Euro 2020 Wales v Denmark: Expats in Amsterdam form Red Army
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-57621196
Wales , innit
Proud of these lot, can’t fault the effort. We’ve waited a long time to qualify for tournaments, I’ll take this type of disappointment over Bodin penalty near misses every day of the week.
We’ve been living through a halcyon period for us the last 8 years or so. Consistent top 20 in the world with a foray into the top 10 at points. I’ve tried to savour it whilst it lasts. The anomaly of Uruguay aside, not many countries our size get to this place let alone maintain it.
Few things conspired against us for this tournament. The Giggs situation couldn’t have helped in terms of our preparation. I do think a savvier tactician would have gotten more out of this squad for these games but we’ve limited resources and that was sadly the hand we got dealt.
The obscene imbalance where we had to criss cross Europe and travel the equivalent distance of Wales to Argentina whilst the Danes, for example, only had to contend with a comparatively short hop from Copenhagen to Amsterdam. This tournament and the time we’re living through condemned us to playing “away” games the entire time, a situation worse than our non-tournament away games over the last few years as we’ve regularly taken thousands.
And frustratingly, in a tournament where I think generally the refereeing has been of a good standard, we didn’t get the rub of the green with some decisions not going our way.
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Originally Posted by Kind of Blue
I don't think many would have had to deal with as much as we did both in the build-up and duration of the tournament:
- CEO departs
- Manager temporarily steps away due to front-page circumstances in his personal life
- 30 plus degrees in Baku, an away game in Baku, an away game in Rome, an away game in Amsterdam.
- Arguably a harsh sending off of Ampadu
- A ref who harshly books Moore and Rodon then takes no action when Moore fouled before they score their second. Harshly sends off Wilson too.
Despite this, and recognising we were second best yesterday and disappointingly let our frustrations show, we achieved with qualification from the group and the FAW did their best to make sure the whole of Wales was reached out to in order to again use a tournament to build future success.
Even in tough circumstances we might have been expected to beat Turkey, lose to Italy (currently 7th in the world) and Denmark (currently 10th in the world) so when looking back on the tournament I'll be focusing on the Switzerland game as a marker of our time in Euros 2020. Drawing against a side like Switzerland (13th in the world, reached tournament football in 7 of last 8 tournaments before this and qualified from group stages in 4 of those) shows how well we did and also sets out maybe not the the direct next step but the future goal to work to.
We come out of this tournament at a bit of a crossroads knowing that the squad has a higher floor than 2016 but a lower ceiling and not knowing which players will push that ceiling up again. Will need patience and good supportive crowd to help us knowing there is so much to play for over the next 9 months plus 2 day but yes, definitely proud of this team :thumbup:
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Originally Posted by surge
Well said.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kind of Blue
Spedger
Well said, that man. :thumbup:Quote:
Originally Posted by Kind of Blue
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Originally Posted by Kind of Blue
Have found it strange some of the negativity to yesterday. Doing great to get there then to get out of a tough group where every side is in the top 30. (The only group to have that I think)
We didn’t play well yesterday but it happens. Everything went for Denmark, the world backing them, their fans taking over Amsterdam, the momentum of the 4-1 win against Russia. Just one of them things, plenty of good teams will go out in the last 16, no shame in that.
As has been said, the tournament format has completely done us over imo. Look how average Italy looked yesterday when suddenly not playing in front of their own fans. It has a massive impact and all the countries who have 2 or 3 home games that are virtually home qualifiers have benefited massively, and England will continue to do so until the final. That’s before you factor in the travelling/lack of travelling.
It must be one of the most weighted tournaments in history.
Yesterday I just felt disappointed that we almost seemed resigned to losing before kick off and that everything was against us.
I'm disappointed in how we played as I know we can do so much better. You can accept losing to the likes of Denmark as they are a good team but it was the manner of the defeat that irked me.
On reflection I can appreciate that I've seen us at another major tournament, something that prior to 2016 I wondered if would ever happen.
The tour to the extreme edges of Europe wouldn't have helped but we knew that when qualifying. I'm not a fan of the set up, massively favours some but then the likes of Scotland hardly made much use of such advantage and we would have liked our games in Cardiff I'm sure. Just as well fans en masse couldn't travel as I'm sure it wouldn't have been a patch on the 2016 experience.
Hopefully we only see one host or two neighbouring ones from now on.
For us, hopefully we can shake this off, continue to do all we can to bring through the next crop and keep doing as well as we can.
The morning after , loads to be optimistic about
Some great young players coming through
And Bale still has 4 years in him
Not sure. We were fortunate against Switzerland, and have only really played well at times against a really poor Turkey. Yesterday things didn't quite go our way, but we were lucky with a 4-0 scoreline.Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
No way has Bale got 4 yrs left in him. Sadly he’s already lost his biggest attribute. His pace.Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
Bale has lost his pace and isnt the player he was but hes still a very good player and we are heavily reliant on him and Ramsey.
I dont think he will play on for 4 years though.
Hopefully he can help us qualify for the World Cup.
Captaining his country in the World Cup Finals would be the perfect end to his career.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hilts
He could easily slot into a defensive midfield position . If Mark Hughes plays until he's 36 so can BaleQuote:
Originally Posted by William Treseder
PerfectQuote:
Originally Posted by Pearcey3
Bale has had to change his game as every player does as they grow older. Giggs became a CM, Gerrard waved goodbye to box-to-box days, Christiano Ronaldo stopped being a winger and concentrated on being a goal-scorer...
I think Bale has a lot to offer at the highest level in terms of his creativity and his skill, someone described him as a big Ozil or Pirlo, but he's 32 soon and unlikely he's got as many as 4 years left in him. Things will slowly become harder for him and he'll need more support from us/his team-mates.
8 of this squad were at the 2016 tournament (2 GKs) and without those 8 the average age of the squad is something 22.8 years old. They'll need support from us too in order to push on.
Over the next 9months plus a couple of days we find out whether we qualify for a World Cup and then after that it's about a proper Euros in Germany - so much still to play for.
we have some very good young players coming throughQuote:
Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish
Totally agreeQuote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
Been an advantage to so many teams this format and we definitely wasn't one of them.
I do think this is a good point though. Ref was poor, Denmark were better but there were still things we could have done ourselves to handle that situation a bit better.Quote:
Former Wales women's manager Jayne Ludlow says she was "infuriated" by the "petulance" shown by Welsh players in the Euro 2020 defeat Denmark.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/av/footb...medium=custom7
I haven't seen the podcast, not interested what JL has to say to be honest.Quote:
Originally Posted by surge
The game is gone and confined to the annals of history, but if the caption is the gist of it, I have no problem seeing that.
IMO referees need to be told that they have made a bad decision, and, let's face it, there were plenty of them.
The next time the referee is thinking he may choose to favour the opposition and may think twice.
It can also have the effect of motivating the team to perform better, siege mentality.
There were many factors why we got beat by Denmark but I doubt "petulance" played a significant part.
In that caption it looks like our Gareth is tired and in need of some sleep due to all the travelling.