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She may know her onions football wise, but her constant wittering is driving me nuts. Don't these people realise that less is more, instead of beating your eardrums into submission.
As I said in a previous thread, she sounds like Glenn Hoddle, has the same poor pronunciation as Hoddle and I'm sure like Hoddle believes she's a tactical genius.
Tuerto has the right attitude. Press the mute button or at the very least turn down the sound to its bare minimum.
Frigging dreadful.
Spoilt a classic game.
Her voice was like chalk on a blackboard
Yes, she did my head in too, with her dreadul cockney accent. Was she on speed on something else illegal as she couldn't shut the feck up?
Useless. Like Danny Dyer on speed.
Far to many experts employed who can barely speak English. Mainly cockneys.
No commentator should be allowed to commentate on a football match until they have listened to a hundred hours of Barrie Davies.Quote:
Originally Posted by Moodybluebird
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And what the hell did she mean by "... playing low..."?
she's been about the best in this tournament, although there is a touch of hoddle about her.
what she says actually adds something to the game, a bit of insight into the tactical battle panning out.
I've listened to Danny Murphy a fair bit this tournament and I'm yet to hear him say anything remotely interesting
The main commentator (whoever he is) drove me to switch the sound off ... again! His voice is awful. Oh and now we've got f***ing Tyldesley!!!
Ally mcCoist is the best co commentatorQuote:
Originally Posted by Rjk
She’s very knowledgable and well prepared but is dominating the commentating way too much. Every action doesn’t need a full technical analysis. Just let the pictures tell the story sometimes. Maybe trying a bit too hard to show she’s worthy of the job.
I’d rather listen to her before many of her male counterparts though.
She was awful, I remember a time when the commentator invited the 'expert' to give some insight, these days the commentator can't get a word in edgeways. BTW, how hard is it to say 'Azpilicueta' properly!
She obviously has a great deal of knowledge about the game and expresses that knowledge very well. But she talks to much, way too much, through the game.
As for Ally McCoist - he doesn't say much, and long may that continue.
In extra time after Spain went 5-3 up she said that it was all done and dusted and then in the same breath she said that she wouldn't be suprised if Croatia struck back.
Talk about covering all bases.
I didn't think she added much tactically that wasn't obvious but she was no worse than Danny Murphy who sends me to sleep.
She obviously knows her stuff,but its only her opinion. Recently football a game played by testosterone fuelled egotistical young men has turned into a nerdy science. Its always whether one team can impose their game over the opposition. Spain were always going to try to push their full backs as high as they could and Croatia were keeping it compact and wait for the mistake.
The problem with her was she spoke so often she often contradicted whatever she said 5 mins earlier.
How come i grew up with a single commentator and never thought i needed someone to tell me what to think. Maybe to tell me what is happening off the ball who is making runs the camera is not picking up.
She talked too much, but do we really need them ?
Tyldesley thinks France v Switzerland is being played in Bucharest FFS!
You've had a mare sonQuote:
Originally Posted by Madassa
It was played in Bucharest
I agree entirely with your first paragraph. In the end it was a relief when the match ended due to her constant jabbering and analysis of every single situation. No co-commentator, no matter how knowledgeable, should be allowed to dominate in the way she does. A painful experience for most if not all viewers.Quote:
Originally Posted by J R Hartley
I have haven't I. I thought it would be Budapest as per the group games. Makes me even more annoyed Cardiff don't get a tie.Quote:
Originally Posted by willo1927
Stats and data analysis have been part of the game for longer than you realise. She is a manager after all, so her insight is going to be much different to the likes of Jenas and Murphy who probably haven't got a coaching badge between them.Quote:
Originally Posted by llan bluebird
She talks way too much and can't pronounce Azpilicueta properly. Sure the insight is nice but it's not needed every minute but if she improves on that I think I'd much rather her than any of Jenas/Murphy etc
It was on pretty much every other billboard :hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by willo1927
Mute button is your friend. Watch the game and reach your own conclusions.
Why do we need Co-Commentators anyway?
Coz Sky got 'em and everyone else should follow their lead coz they're great.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dorcus
Mute button isn't the answer for me as I like to hear the crowd.
Had to turn it right down today though, she was dreadful as was Tyldesley with his silly motor car metaphors.
Need to offer "crowd noise only" on the red button, thus providing the true match day experience.
I happen to think that her monotone delivery is absolutely awful. She might be very insightful but you have to make what you are saying sound interesting by using your voice. She has zero intonation and makes everything sound so unbelievably boring.Quote:
Originally Posted by Moodybluebird
Btw, almost everyone on Twitter thinks that she is fantastic!
It was absolute torture listening to her two hour monologue delivered in an incessant London/South East drone. Practically every kick was followed by some form of technical analysis that was neither insightful nor necessary. A horrible experience for the viewer that tarnished an otherwise fantastic match.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bobby Dandruff
Your last comment regarding Twitter has left me speechless !
I completely agree with you there, right down to the bit about her possibly trying too hard. I can understand it in a way mind because there will be some female co commentators who will think that, with a lot of the opinions you see from men on places like this and other social media platforms when it comes to woman in football broadcasting, they have to really prove how much they know and understand the game. Emma Hayes doesn't need to prattle on endlessly like she did yesterday, because what she says is, very often, interesting and informative - less is more would be a good motto for her I believe.Quote:
Originally Posted by J R Hartley
Also think Jayne Ludlow has been honest and intelligent on those Elis James programmes.
I think she's been the best by far, ten times better than that c*nt Tyldesley
I'm not a fan.
I am still at a loss as to what playing low means.
The nearest thing I can think is playing deep but that is used so much why would she not just say deep rather than low?
Another comment from her about balls being like balloons had me shaking my head for a while too.
I was venting about this on our Euro WhatsApp group last night......she absolutely boiled my swede....
She wouldn't shut up.....she literally had to comment on every bit of play.....
And the whole Apple Quetta thing was just ridiculous....
I actually want the technical analysis but I can see why people just want silence.
I thought she was fine
Think that is right. I found her informative but analysis should come as the game tactically ebbs and flows not after every move. Hopefully she will learn that less is more. Couldn't help thinking about this though.Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tv0ueEI4OBQ
Yeah I can understand why she's not for everyone, and the hoddle comparison is a fair one.Quote:
Originally Posted by WJ99mobile
But I don't mind her talking a lot as long as she's adding something in terms of technical analysis - if there are a lot of interesting things going on tactically in a match then maybe she'll have more to point out. Presumably in one of our matches you'd forget she was there :hehe: As long a she's not talking over the main commentator when significant things were happening on the pitch, which she wasn't.
I'd much prefer her to someone who maybe speaks less, but doesn't add anything. this tweet from last night sums it up for me.
https://twitter.com/SgtGilko/status/...914861061?s=20
Wasn’t she using that when talking about Moratta? I took it to mean that whereas a striker playing “high” means pushing up right on to the centre backs, a striker who drops into midfield to link with his team mates is playing low.Quote:
Originally Posted by blue lewj
I'd rather listen to Emma Hayes on co-commentary than John Hartson or Robbie Savage. Ally McCoist is the best of the bunch though.
I was amazed (but not surprised given a lot of what you read on Twitter) - the praise was almost universal.Quote:
Originally Posted by Moodybluebird
I am clearly out of touch as I think that she was awful, like lots of co-commentators. Most I can ignore, but not her for some reason. And most just spoil a game.
No, it wasn't about Morata.Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
If that was what she meant then surely deeper would have been the right word to use.
The fact I still don't know what she meant now tells me she used it wrongly or didn't explain it very well while talking more as a co-commentator than the main guy and also over analysing almost every play.
I’m sure that’s when I heard it mentioned.Quote:
Originally Posted by blue lewj
It takes me back to Brian Clough tearing a strip off John Motson back in the 70s when he said (paraphrasing), cut out all the analysis and let those of us sat in our armchairs just watch the football.
Is that the main guy who said Croatia had been in two World Cup finals? Or the one from the Portugal game the night before who was still on about Ronaldo being fantastic from free-kicks until Ian Wright corrected him at half-time?Quote:
Originally Posted by blue lewj
I think some co-commentators are there to entertain but risk going over the top and being silly, some are there to analyse but risk going over the top and over-complicating or over-speaking, and the best (McCoist) are able to balance their output avoiding each of these risks.