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Masks Yes or No After Restrictions Lifted
Big debate at the moment think , I will adopt the behaviour of wearing one as a politeness if I've got a cold /cough and wear one for the rest of this year on public transport and in supermarkets.
I do think now its should be a personal choice except when visiting Hospital's / Clinic's , GP's where I think its should be mandatory for ever .
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Let common sense and where a person is dictate it. Those without common sense weren't abiding by the rules anyway, though thankfully they seemed few and far between.
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IMHO masks should remain compulsory in enclosed spaces, especially where there is limited social distancing.
Nothing has changed in terms of the number of people who may have CV19 and be a-symptomatic, nor that you can have it without symptoms for up to two weeks.
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It really doesn't bother me having to wear a mask, it's very little effort if it helps.
It really bugs me though people who wear a mask incorrectly, it's not difficult.
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I enjoyed wearing a mask in the winter, not so keen now it's warm but I'll continue. It's the tiniest of inconveniences and it shows everyone else you're considering their health and wellbeing
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I've not worn a mask outdoors for ages, but will continue to do so in shops, on public transport etc.
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the other bob wilson
I've not worn a mask outdoors for ages, but will continue to do so in shops, on public transport etc.
My point exactly. you know when it is a good thing and when it is unnecessary. It's common sense.
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Definitely will when travelling on the London underground to work etc - lot to be said for wearing a mask on there even pre-covid.
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Der Kaiser
Definitely will when travelling on the London underground to work etc - lot to be said for wearing a mask on there even pre-covid.
Spot on , I find mask wearing essential and almost reassuring in that area and other high density cities which have crowded environments such as buses , tubes and not forgetting Airports and travel .
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I’ll be wearing my mask in the same way as before. I think the easing of restrictions in general is driven by political pressure from those that stand to gain from it, such as the travel industry.
Personally, I think that we’re heading for more restrictions in the autumn. The UK Government just don’t seem to be learning from last year. It’s “let the shackles off for the summer and damn the torpedoes”.
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The Hooded Claw
I’ll be wearing my mask in the same way as before. I think the easing of restrictions in general is driven by political pressure from those that stand to gain from it, such as the travel industry.
Personally, I think that we’re heading for more restrictions in the autumn. The UK Government just don’t seem to be learning from last year. It’s “let the shackles off for the summer and damn the torpedoes”.
Not so sure I agree, there does come a point we do need to find out what exactly happens when the shackles are let off. Whilst cases are high, I'd be shocked if in the future the statistic of preference for the media/government isn't the number hospitalisations which of course is the biggest issue, which according to the Chief of the NHS on sky news this morning are around 10x fewer than what hospitalisations were when there was comparable number of cases in the previous two peaks.
Think the vaccination programme which has been a massive success has effectively removed the governments need to draw on what they have failed on previously. Presumably when every adult who wants their second jab has had them, and then booster jabs come in play, future peaks in cases will be smaller.
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life on mars
Spot on , I find mask wearing essential and almost reassuring in that area and other high density cities which have crowded environments such as buses , tubes and not forgetting Airports and travel .
So you’ll be wearing one down ccs then?
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I haven't worn a mask for about a month now. I would if I was on public transport. And I probably will wear one next winter.
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Yes in shops, all indoor locations and especially public transport. With increasing COVID numbers wearing masks as now should be compulsory for, not only your own sake, but for those with whom you come into contact.
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life on mars
Big debate at the moment think , I will adopt the behaviour of wearing one as a politeness if I've got a cold /cough and wear one for the rest of this year on public transport and in supermarkets.
I do think now its should be a personal choice except when visiting Hospital's / Clinic's , GP's where I think its should be mandatory for ever .
Shouldn't you be self-isolating at home if you've got a cough?
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LeningradCowboy
Shouldn't you be self-isolating at home if you've got a cough?
In normal times no , as half the world would be at home and on the sick especially in the winter ?
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Proper ventilation of indoor spaces is probably more important. This summer, I've seen people wearing masks on buses with all the windows shut, which just seems crazy to me.
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life on mars
In normal times no , as half the world would be at home and on the sick especially in the winter ?
Would you be wearing a mask in normal times?
I'm not aware that the government in planning to change the rules on people self-isolating when they have Covid symptoms.
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Whisperer
So you’ll be wearing one down ccs then?
I'm not sure if I'm honest more cramped enclosed areas
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LeningradCowboy
Would you be wearing a mask in normal times?
I'm not aware that the government in planning to change the rules on people self-isolating when they have Covid symptoms.
Have worn them a way back in London as the air was awful , tubes were a breading ground of colds and flu
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I won’t be wearing one, possibly in a supermarket but that’s it. Hate the things. Putting it back on to walk to a pub in the toilet or between different machines in the gym….what a joke
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NYCBlue
I haven't worn a mask for about a month now. I would if I was on public transport. And I probably will wear one next winter.
Nevermind this, when is Biden going to open the USA up to visitors??
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The Hooded Claw
I’ll be wearing my mask in the same way as before. I think the easing of restrictions in general is driven by political pressure from those that stand to gain from it, such as the travel industry.
Personally, I think that we’re heading for more restrictions in the autumn. The UK Government just don’t seem to be learning from last year. It’s “let the shackles off for the summer and damn the torpedoes”.
The big difference is that, by the Autumn, at least 90% of the population will be double jabbed at at least 60% will have had a booster jab as well.
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If someone can dig up a study that proves that masks are effective.
I have a work colleague that is in his last year at university to become a surgeon and he claims that there are no studies
that they help even during a serious operation.
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ToTaL ITK
If someone can dig up a study that proves that masks are effective.
I have a work colleague that is in his last year at university to become a surgeon and he claims that there are no studies
that they help even during a serious operation.
There isn't much evidence that they alter post operative infection rates very much - they are more useful for protecting the wearer from things from the patient though. I've been in plenty of operating theatres and none of the surgeon's i've worked with would be prepared to do it without a mask, even on a cadaver.
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Rjk
There isn't much evidence that they alter post operative infection rates very much - they are more useful for protecting the wearer from things from the patient though. I've been in plenty of operating theatres and none of the surgeon's i've worked with would be prepared to do it without a mask, even on a cadaver.
of course he wears a mask but claims they are effective for about 15 minutes and then they start pulling at them with their fingers.
i really don't know either way tbh
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ToTaL ITK
If someone can dig up a study that proves that masks are effective.
I have a work colleague that is in his last year at university to become a surgeon and he claims that there are no studies
that they help even during a serious operation.
A surgeon? So basically would have absolutely no idea then.
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goats
Nevermind this, when is Biden going to open the USA up to visitors??
Yea come on NYCBlue, sort it out, have a word with Joe next time you see him
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blue matt
Yea come on NYCBlue, sort it out, have a word with Joe next time you see him
Will Joe get the Cardiffian dry humour
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ToTaL ITK
of course he wears a mask but claims they are effective for about 15 minutes and then they start pulling at them with their fingers.
i really don't know either way tbh
that's really odd, none of the surgeons I've worked with would do anything like that. they are ultra careful about what they touch with their hands when aseptic, they won't even scratch their face if they have an itch. they certainly don't start pulling their mask around after 15 minutes
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Optimistic Nick
A surgeon? So basically would have absolutely no idea then.
if he's in his last year of medical school then he's a few years off being a surgeon still as well
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Rjk
that's really odd, none of the surgeons I've worked with would do anything like that. they are ultra careful about what they touch with their hands when aseptic, they won't even scratch their face if they have an itch. they certainly don't start pulling their mask around after 15 minutes
I would imagine that if ever some complication or infection arose from an operation, every tiny detail like that would be examined with the finest of toothcombs. An itch, sneeze, anything like that, must require a hygiene procedure. It's not as if surgeons are alone, either.
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my next door neighbour should wear a mask, dreadful rotter she is
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goats
Nevermind this, when is Biden going to open the USA up to visitors??
When your government and population gets its shit together.
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SLUDGE FACTORY
my next door neighbour should wear a mask, dreadful rotter she is
Have you offered that advice
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NYCBlue
When your government and population gets its shit together.
Oh well….maybe never then:hehe: not sure what the population can do? Revolution?
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goats
Oh well….maybe never then:hehe: not sure what the population can do? Revolution?
Not a bad idea.
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The vaccine has weakened link between cases and hospitalization and between hospitalization and deaths but if cases do surge to 100,000 per day that would still likely be an awful lot of hospitalizations, perhaps as many as mid-to-late October 2020.
Chris Whitty expects a covid surge followed by a more normal respiratory surge (Hugo Gye, Deputy Political Editor at The I) which highlights how difficult each option is. I'd suggest it also means we should be looking to ease pressure on NHS as much as we can via voluntary mask wearing and reducing contact number/duration when feeling ill - government can also take action to improve SSP and give grants to improve ventilation standards in buildings.
Scotland's actions up to this point seem to have worked the best in the UK.
Think this policy decision by UK government (speaking for England) will need to be judged circa April/May of 2022.
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surge
The vaccine has weakened link between cases and hospitalization and between hospitalization and deaths but if cases do surge to 100,000 per day that would still likely be an awful lot of hospitalizations, perhaps as many as mid-to-late October 2020.
Chris Whitty expects a covid surge followed by a more normal respiratory surge (Hugo Gye, Deputy Political Editor at The I) which highlights how difficult each option is. I'd suggest it also means we should be looking to ease pressure on NHS as much as we can via voluntary mask wearing and reducing contact number/duration when feeling ill - government can also take action to improve SSP and give grants to improve ventilation standards in buildings.
Scotland's actions up to this point seem to have worked the best in the UK.
Think this policy decision by UK government (speaking for England) will need to be judged circa April/May of 2022.
I agree with much of this with the exception of the reference to Scotland actions working the best in the UK. Scotland is now the worst-hit region in Europe.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-57712737
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No one has mentioned the important factor of ugly women. Irrespective of covid, face masks have been a tremendous advantage to people like Jasmine Albi Brown and Emily Thornberry and those who have to deal with them.
No. It should be on an entirely individual basis - who could , in conscience, allow that Anneliese Dodds to remove her mask in public for example ? Imagine the distress and fear it would cause to small children passing innocently by in a public place.