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People like this are able to vote
BBC News - Racist abuse of England players Marcus Rashford, Jadon Sancho & Bukayo Saka condemned by FA
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/57800431
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But sludge, you're able to vote and many people would strongly disagree with your beliefs and political affiliations.
for better or worse it's democracy.
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SLUDGE FACTORY
The biggest impact would be if all sports people came off twitter for good - do they really need it in their lives - it would close down fairly quickly as surely other people in celebrity walks of life would follow suit?
Plenty of other media platforms for them to use?
Twitter is raking in millions and yet is complicit and condones this scummy content time and time again
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xsnaggle
But sludge, you're able to vote and many people would strongly disagree with your beliefs and political affiliations.
for better or worse it's democracy.
Very much for the worse I'm afraid.
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SLUDGE FACTORY
I agree Sludge, does make you wonder.
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I'll just point out we've got a proven racist as UK Prime Minister. Interestingly, he's condemned the racist abuse of Rashford, Saka and Sancho with the following comment.
"Please leave our Piccaninnies alone and remember how much pleasure their water melon smiles have given you..."
Disclaimer" Boris may or may not have said that last comment?
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xsnaggle
But sludge, you're able to vote and many people would strongly disagree with your beliefs and political affiliations. for better or worse it's democracy.
While racists tend to migrate to certain parties, being a vile racist bigoted twat is NOT a political belief that needs to included in the political or public discourse.
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xsnaggle
But sludge, you're able to vote and many people would strongly disagree with your beliefs and political affiliations.
for better or worse it's democracy.
There is a world of difference between vile racist abuse and perfectly legitimate political beliefs. Ridiculous post.
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xsnaggle
But sludge, you're able to vote and many people would strongly disagree with your beliefs and political affiliations.
for better or worse it's democracy.
There is a difference between not liking the Tories and sending racially offensive , criminal messages to someone
That's illegal
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xsnaggle
But sludge, you're able to vote and many people would strongly disagree with your beliefs and political affiliations. for better or worse it's democracy.
If these racists are caught and prosecuted then they won't get to vote while serving their sentences.
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AfricanBluebird
If these racists are caught and prosecuted then they won't get to vote while serving their sentences.
I've seen some of the disgusting comments this morning online. Most hide behind false troll names however i was amazed to see actual people, full name, photograph and even their employment under their picture posting racist stuff. :angry: I really just don't understand the hate in these people. Hopefully time will be served.
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Monster munch
I've seen some of the disgusting comments this morning online. Most hide behind false troll names however i was amazed to see actual people, full name, photograph and even their employment under their picture posting racist stuff. :angry: I really just don't understand the hate in these people. Hopefully time will be served.
What like this one https://www.placenorthwest.co.uk/new...t-euro-tweets/
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SLUDGE FACTORY
Come on Sludge, you're being unfair; without stolid patriots like these we'd never have achieved Brexit. That nice Mr Farage says these people are the salt of the Earth.
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Former Labour leader
Very much for the worse I'm afraid.
Probably. But the alternatives are even worse.
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That's the best way to deal with this.
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Originally Posted by
Monster munch
I've seen some of the disgusting comments this morning online. Most hide behind false troll names however i was amazed to see actual people, full name, photograph and even their employment under their picture posting racist stuff. :angry: I really just don't understand the hate in these people. Hopefully time will be served.
I know but do not associate with people who use the word nggr and other crap I would ask the question why did God give them oxygen?
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City123
There is a world of difference between vile racist abuse and perfectly legitimate political beliefs. Ridiculous post.
What is ridiculous about it? Do you think that you can take away a person's right to vote, whatever you may think of them or however loathsome you personally think they are just because of what they may say or think?
It is the same as so many on here over the last couple of years who have suggested or actually stated that anyone who voted tory should not be allowed to vote.
Both things may be an opinion, and you may have what in your mind are good reasons for saying it, but that is not democracy.
If you achieve the desired removal of voting rights from one group what is to prevent you moving on to the next group you disagree with and the next and the next?
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Originally Posted by
xsnaggle
But sludge, you're able to vote and many people would strongly disagree with your beliefs and political affiliations.
for better or worse it's democracy.
Equating Sludge with the vile racists is going too far (right).
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Originally Posted by
xsnaggle
What is ridiculous about it? Do you think that you can take away a person's right to vote, whatever you may think of them or however loathsome you personally think they are just because of what they may say or think?
It is the same as so many on here over the last couple of years who have suggested or actually stated that anyone who voted tory should not be allowed to vote.
Both things may be an opinion, and you may have what in your mind are good reasons for saying it, but that is not democracy.
If you achieve the desired removal of voting rights from one group what is to prevent you moving on to the next group you disagree with and the next and the next?
You are of course correct. I'd defend your right to vote despite the fact you believe in a plethora of numb-nuts completely-unfounded conspiracy theories, are a bit of a fibber, and, appear to be on the right of Bozo.
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Originally Posted by
xsnaggle
What is ridiculous about it? Do you think that you can take away a person's right to vote, whatever you may think of them or however loathsome you personally think they are just because of what they may say or think?
It is the same as so many on here over the last couple of years who have suggested or actually stated that anyone who voted tory should not be allowed to vote.
Both things may be an opinion, and you may have what in your mind are good reasons for saying it, but that is not democracy.
If you achieve the desired removal of voting rights from one group what is to prevent you moving on to the next group you disagree with and the next and the next?
You daft idiot
Being a pompous tory or a annoying wolfie Smith lefty is one thing but racists are fecking pond life
I could have put these people have children or some of these people have jobs or girlfriends
Its the same ironic message , they are racist twats
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Originally Posted by
xsnaggle
What is ridiculous about it? Do you think that you can take away a person's right to vote, whatever you may think of them or however loathsome you personally think they are just because of what they may say or think?
It is the same as so many on here over the last couple of years who have suggested or actually stated that anyone who voted tory should not be allowed to vote.
Both things may be an opinion, and you may have what in your mind are good reasons for saying it, but that is not democracy.
If you achieve the desired removal of voting rights from one group what is to prevent you moving on to the next group you disagree with and the next and the next?
Ummm Yeah, people who go to prison for their crimes do have their voting rights removed. And these are crimes they committed, not just horrible opinions.
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Nobody's Rep
Sacked in the morning
he's gonna get sacked in the morning...
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az city
You are of course correct. I'd defend your right to vote despite the fact you believe in a plethora of numb-nuts completely-unfounded conspiracy theories, are a bit of a fibber, and, appear to be on the right of Bozo.
You are an insulting little cnut aren't you, considering you don't know me or anything about me. I have never expounded any conspiracy theory, neither do I lie. Its easy to accuse someone of that hiding behind a keyboard.
You'll probably be telling everyone I'm a racist next. Just because I don't agree with you.
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xsnaggle
You are an insulting little cnut aren't you, considering you don't know me or anything about me. I have never expounded any conspiracy theory, neither do I lie. Its easy to accuse someone of that hiding behind a keyboard.
You'll probably be telling everyone I'm a racist next. Just because I don't agree with you.
Well I don't think for one minute you are a racist but on this issue you are wrong . There is a difference between calling someone a bloody Marxist or a bloody tory and people posting racist abuse directly to black people.
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xsnaggle
You are an insulting little cnut aren't you, considering you don't know me or anything about me. I have never expounded any conspiracy theory, neither do I lie. Its easy to accuse someone of that hiding behind a keyboard.
You'll probably be telling everyone I'm a racist next. Just because I don't agree with you.
Calm down dear, it's an internet message board. :hehe:
I do know you post in support of conspiracy theories on the Coronavirus thread. I suspect you also aren't in downtown Baku at the moment given all your posts about daily issues in and around Cardiff. I note you don't deny being right of Bozo.
One thing I have never done, which you do with gay abandon, is use abusive language towards you.
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az city
Calm down dear, it's an internet message board. :hehe:
I do know you post in support of conspiracy theories on the Coronavirus thread. I suspect you also aren't in downtown Baku at the moment given all your posts about daily issues in and around Cardiff. I note you don't deny being right of Bozo.
One thing I have never done, which you do with gay abandon, is use abusive language towards you.
1. I've never posted in support of any conspiracy theory ever.
2. I have been back in Cardiff for a few years and most people who post on here regularly know that. It's not some big secret. If you only 'suspect' it then you will look pretty silly to most people. It is patently obvious.
3. I also don't deny being left of Mark Drakeford. What's your point? You use the phrase as an insult, which is the biggest part of the reason I argue against sludge and the like, the attempt to use words as an insult, and their oft quoted assertion that anyone who votes for the conservative should not be allowed to vote. Just because they don't agree with them. It is nonsense and they know it is. That is what I argue against. My own personal political beliefs are just that, my own, and they are no one else's business.
4. I never use abusive language with gay abandon, ever.
And to answer your last point first, "It's only a message board", that is clearly the environment in which you operate. When you ask me what sauce I use to get my opinions it shows your lack of understanding of the wider real life world. People's opinion generally are not formed by something they read on the web, but are formed by their experiences of life and the things that they see do and learn in life. Most of which it would appear you have still to do, as you clearly rely on the internet for all your information and opinions. But of course they're not your opinion, they're someone else's, you just borrow them. you shouldn't believe it all, for every thing you find there is any other thing that contradicts it. now go away and get some experience of real life and come back in 20 u
years time when you have real well founded opinions.
you're a keyboard warrior, and not a good one at that.
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xsnaggle
1. I've never posted in support of any conspiracy theory ever.
2. I have been back in Cardiff for a few years and most people who post on here regularly know that. It's not some big secret. If you only 'suspect' it then you will look pretty silly to most people. It is patently obvious.
3. I also don't deny being left of Mark Drakeford. What's your point? You use the phrase as an insult, which is the biggest part of the reason I argue against sludge and the like, the attempt to use words as an insult, and their oft quoted assertion that anyone who votes for the conservative should not be allowed to vote. Just because they don't agree with them. It is nonsense and they know it is. That is what I argue against. My own personal political beliefs are just that, my own, and they are no one else's business.
4. I never use abusive language with gay abandon, ever.
And to answer your last point first, "It's only a message board", that is clearly the environment in which you operate. When you ask me what sauce I use to get my opinions it shows your lack of understanding of the wider real life world. People's opinion generally are not formed by something they read on the web, but are formed by their experiences of life and the things that they see do and learn in life. Most of which it would appear you have still to do, as you clearly rely on the internet for all your information and opinions. But of course they're not your opinion, they're someone else's, you just borrow them. you shouldn't believe it all, for every thing you find there is any other thing that contradicts it. now go away and get some experience of real life and come back in 20 u
years time when you have real well founded opinions.
you're a keyboard warrior, and not a good one at that.
Calm down Snaggs, you're gonna do yourself a mischief :hehe:
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Originally Posted by
xsnaggle
What is ridiculous about it? Do you think that you can take away a person's right to vote, whatever you may think of them or however loathsome you personally think they are just because of what they may say or think?
It is the same as so many on here over the last couple of years who have suggested or actually stated that anyone who voted tory should not be allowed to vote.
Both things may be an opinion, and you may have what in your mind are good reasons for saying it, but that is not democracy.
If you achieve the desired removal of voting rights from one group what is to prevent you moving on to the next group you disagree with and the next and the next?
Really?
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the other bob wilson
Really?
Yes really.
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Tuerto
Calm down Snaggs, you're gonna do yourself a mischief :hehe:
Too late, I'm already so worked up I've had to take a day off- - unheard of!!!:facepalm: :hehe: But be fair, how can he possibly "suspect" I'm no longer in Baku. He must have been stalking me, it's the only answer. :hehe:
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xsnaggle
Yes really.
No, you just making accusations like that doesn't automatically mean they're true. Given you have access to all of the threads on here "in the last couple of years", it should be easy enough for you to find plenty of specific examples showing posters suggesting or stating that anyone who voted Conservative should be disenfranchised. For myself, I've often expressed bafflement as to why people like you slavishly defend Johnson's Government, but I'm not sure I've ever said you shouldn't be allowed to vote for them - if I have, then I was wrong to do so.
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the other bob wilson
No, you just making accusations like that doesn't automatically mean they're true. Given you have access to all of the threads on here "in the last couple of years", it should be easy enough for you to find plenty of specific examples showing posters suggesting or stating that anyone who voted Conservative should be disenfranchised. For myself, I've often expressed bafflement as to why people like you slavishly defend Johnson's Government, but I'm not sure I've ever said you shouldn't be allowed to vote for them - if I have, then I was wrong to do so.
I think the most derogatory comment made was that any individual who voted Tory was a selfish and colossal c u n t.
I'll stand by that statement too.
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Jordi Culé
I think the most derogatory comment made was that any individual who voted Tory was a selfish and colossal c u n t.
I'll stand by that statement too.
I draw the line at saying tories should not be able to vote but I do feel they should be shot several times before entering the ballot box .
Its quick , fair and its for the best .
