In pretty much every restaurant I’ve seen
Hospitality massively struggling at the moment
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In pretty much every restaurant I’ve seen
Hospitality massively struggling at the moment
Thought it was going to be “The Ticket Office” :hehe:
If it was the City be careful what you apply for.
You might want a carefree cleaning job and be running the whole show within 6 months because you turned up one day wearing lucky red on the one day a year Vinny roles into town. Be warned.
Thought it was going to be Derby FCQuote:
Originally Posted by BLUETIT
Thought it was going to be midfielders who can pass the ball
This is the fall out from Furlough.
People on it which was fine whist their industry was shut down.
Many found alternative employment and had 2x incomes at the same time.
Most have stayed on with the new seemingly stable employment and not returned to the original Job when that re opened.
I don’t blame them looking after their own and they doing nothing wrong, but its it’s added further strain to those economies who can’t operate properly because of staff issues and people not returning to the job or industry.
Also Brexit. The young waitresses from Romania and Poland, who always looked beautiful, and had those lovely accents and were often quite flirty have now moved back or onwards. Their replacements are still beautiful and with lovely accents, but are stuck in Warsaw and Bucharest.Quote:
Originally Posted by 19bluebirds27
My oldest daughter was contacted by a Agency ( we know the manager ) and asked did she have any friends who wanted some work, had to be 18 ( so we guessed it was bar work ) paying £9.50 a hour, she has been asked to work every night for the last 2 weeks and next 2 weeks ( she was pinged so had to turn down the last 8 days ) 3pm to 12
her and a few mates filled in the forms, then another Agency offered them work ( we guess the 1st agency has a mole who is passing details on to this other agency )
they just cannot get the staff for these events, be it the bar at gigs or running around at weddings
so she now has 4 X " 0 hour jobs " ( though her 2 swim teaching jobs have regular hours, but are not contracted ) which i know 0 hour contracts get a bad raps, but in the right place, they work well ( in this case as a student it does for her )
How's that Brexit working out for you guys?
Hopefully wages going up 👍.Quote:
Originally Posted by az city
You might say prices will go up too. But surely that’s better than exploiting cheap foreign workers.
Some of which were trafficked and led into a life of slavery.
Hmm, seems not: https://www.bbc.com/news/business-56582566Quote:
Originally Posted by Wash DC Blue
Information on likely affected sectors: https://www.statista.com/statistics/...s-by-industry/
You're a migrant (like me) too. Do you feel exploited?Quote:
Originally Posted by Wash DC Blue
I certainly do not.Quote:
Originally Posted by az city
If I did work in comparable hospitality Stateside though..I’ve no doubt that it would certainly pay more than it does back home.
Did you know the federal minimum cash wage in hospitality is $2.13? And the federal minimum cash plus tip wage in hospitality is $7.25? https://www.dol.gov/agencies/whd/sta...um-wage/tippedQuote:
Originally Posted by Wash DC Blue
In the UK the minimum wage for a 21+ year old is GBP8.36 ($11.36 equivalent). https://www.gov.uk/national-minimum-wage-rates
On the modern slavery point, don't you think that most are not EU nationals coming through legal channels but more likely people entering illegally with no legal right to work?Quote:
Originally Posted by Wash DC Blue
On the modern slavery point, don't you think that most are not EU nationals coming through legal channels but more likely people entering illegally with no legal right to work? The two nationalities most exploited based on arrest data are Albanians and Vietnamese.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wash DC Blue
I’m sure that you are aware of how lucrative a “career” in hospitality is in the US.Quote:
Originally Posted by az city
Took a while to get my head around the annoyance of tipping well, but a minimum of 20% it has been for at least 17 years.
People in hospitality are payed very very well here, it’s comparative to wages and cost of housing/rent and groceries though.
My Sister in law in Columbus OH, not payed as well in that industry but relative to any other industry there.
Yeah, I said cheap foreign labor.Quote:
Originally Posted by az city
Brexit is done.
Do you intend using Brexit as a yardstick for every success or more likely every failure from here in out?
There are many strong arguments for Brexit, but trafficking and coercing eastern Europeans in to the sex trade isn't really one of them i'd say :frown:Quote:
Originally Posted by Wash DC Blue
What's the name of the Agencies BM?Quote:
Originally Posted by blue matt
You're pretty free and easy with your opinions on Brexit for someone who lives 3500 miles awayQuote:
Originally Posted by Wash DC Blue
Have you not offered your opinion on American politics?Quote:
Originally Posted by delmbox
Regardless.
Wales is the home of my heart.
Where my Dad and my Brother live.
Where I’d like to return to.
Where I tried and couldn’t qualify to get a visa for my (then 15 years married) Wife because we didn’t have £65k in the bank.
Pass muster with you now you snotty t**t?
Well played 👏Quote:
Originally Posted by Wash DC Blue
My kids cut their teeth in the service industry after we emigrated to Canada. They made an extraordinary amount of money…. tiny hourly wage but the tips were out of this world… it wasn’t unusual for them to make $2000 a week all in.Quote:
Originally Posted by az city
Canadians typically tip 20% on any service bill… scared me at first but now second nature. A pint of beer is $8-$10 …. It soon mounts up… everything is table service… there is no queuing at a bar!
Not really sure what any of that has got to do with the successes and failures of Brexit, and don't be so moody.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wash DC Blue
I’m really not a fan of the tipping culture of the USQuote:
Originally Posted by StraightOuttaCanton
It does get a better product but breeds a entitlement
The implications of Brexit will run for years and years. Just because it has happened doesn't mean that things that go wrong as a result should be swept under the carpet under the mantra of "getting on with it" and "making it work".Quote:
Originally Posted by Wash DC Blue
It's like dropping a dead elephant in a sewer. As the shit backs up into people's houses we get told to deal with it, that now the elephant is there we accept it as that's what people wanted
I’d agree with the entitlement perspective but it’s really the bar and restaurant owners that are the root cause. If they paid a more appropriate hourly rate the situation could be different, but because it’s so universally poor, the behaviour has shifted so that it’s the customer who is ‘expected’ to make up the difference in tips.Quote:
Originally Posted by WJ99mobile
You’re also right though, that the product is better as a consequence
Hangfire bbq in Barry closed down today because of lack of staff
Its starting to hit home for the brexiteers now they cant get a milkshake in McDonalds and a Chicken bake in Greggs.😂
I was talking to a chap who was a waiter in one of the restaurants in Epoct, Disney Wordl, Florida. he was on minimum wage, but with tips was earning $250k pa.!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by StraightOuttaCanton
Hmm.... that's a nice round figure.Quote:
Originally Posted by cardiff55
Do people just openly disclose their earnings to strangers like that?
Not just Brexit is it.Quote:
Originally Posted by az city
Permanently? That place used to have months worth's of waiting lists :frown:Quote:
Originally Posted by WJ99mobile
This is the point I made early doors in this thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by WJ99mobile
Very sad for this business and only heard good things about this restaurant.
Never went because I couldn’t get a table for when I wanted.
2016 “They're over here taking all our jobs, wait until we get out all us unemployed through immigration will be able to pick and choose, it’ll be great”
2021 “Sod that, I’m not doing that, why don’t we get some foreigners in to do that shit?”
I thought this was going to be about Ankles posting under his "Staff" name again. And wondered what stories he's made up about the club this time to be wanted 😂Quote:
Originally Posted by WJ99mobile
One could say the same about NYBlue and AZ City who are exactly the same. Az gets verbally abusive if people dont agree with his sentiments. Everyone who disagrees with him is a conspiracy theoristQuote:
Originally Posted by delmbox
not uncommon at some of the premium dining locations, we know a few servers from Disney, one who always laughs at the stories about tipping as they are true and often under estimated, years ago as Downtown Disney restaurants security used to have to escort servers to cars as they would have a lot of money, these days its all contactless, but these sums still work out, table of 4 spend $200 a meal, the servers area is 10 (or more ) tables, turnover of tables is slightly over 1 hour, 25% tip ( Disney even prints the Disney 25% recommended tip on the bottom of the bill ) on $200 = $50 , $50 X 10 = $500 for just over 1 hour, 6 turnaround in 8 hours, $3000 a shiftQuote:
Originally Posted by cardiff55
that's on 10 tables, a few years back the table numbers were increased, now servers can do upto 20 tables, the numbers are staggering
your chap you were speaking to in Epcot, would have been in a premium restaurant, looking at Le Cellier, starters $20, Mains $50, Dessert $15, Beers $10 and Cocktails $15 ( these are off the top of my head ) it would be easy for a family of 4 ( lets say, parents and grown up kids ) to spend $350 if they have 3 courses and a drink , that's a $85 tip , pretty decent for 1 table
Now don't forget, most Disney restaurants are full all of the time, with bookings being made 180 days out ( 60 days since Covid hit )