Surely Cardiff City would be an attractive club for a mega rich investor

- Capital City of the country.
- Modern, developed City, with a local airport.
- 33k seater modern stadium with room to expand further.
- 1 million (+) catchment area without another local club our size nearby.

With a rich owner and top 6 Premier League football (Leicester City level), we have huge potential. Could become Wales' answer to Celtic and Rangers.

With all this talk of rich arabs buying a Newcastle, why not go for us?

1. I thought we had a rich owner
2. I dont want to be Wales's equivalent to Celtic or Rangers

For me it has always been a puzzle but no they rather Wolves or Leicester ,especially after Euro 2016 where you could see that football in Wales is a big thing to the fans .

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Originally Posted by Forgotmyoldaccount

- Capital City of the country.
- Modern, developed City, with a local airport.
- 33k seater modern stadium with room to expand further.
- 1 million (+) catchment area without another local club our size nearby.

With a rich owner and top 6 Premier League football (Leicester City level), we have huge potential. Could become Wales' answer to Celtic and Rangers.

With all this talk of rich arabs buying a Newcastle, why not go for us?

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You had me convinced and on board there until you said we could be Wales answer to Celtic and Rangers. No thanks, that would mean we would have to play in a mickey mouse competition and join the Welsh League ! :hehe:

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Originally Posted by dml1954

You had me convinced and on board there until you said we could be Wales answer to Celtic and Rangers. No thanks, that would mean we would have to play in a mickey mouse competition and join the Welsh League ! :hehe:

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I mention Celtic and Rangers as they are massive clubs from a small country (5.5M).

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Originally Posted by Forgotmyoldaccount

- Capital City of the country.
- Modern, developed City, with a local airport.
- 33k seater modern stadium with room to expand further.
- 1 million (+) catchment area without another local club our size nearby.

With a rich owner and top 6 Premier League football (Leicester City level), we have huge potential. Could become Wales' answer to Celtic and Rangers.

With all this talk of rich arabs buying a Newcastle, why not go for us?

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I've raised this myself in the past. You'd think it would be a no-brainer. Either Tan does not want to sell, or he does - but is asking too much. Wants his money back, maybe?

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Originally Posted by Forgotmyoldaccount

- Capital City of the country.
- Modern, developed City, with a local airport.
- 33k seater modern stadium with room to expand further.
- 1 million (+) catchment area without another local club our size nearby.

With a rich owner and top 6 Premier League football (Leicester City level), we have huge potential. Could become Wales' answer to Celtic and Rangers.

With all this talk of rich arabs buying a Newcastle, why not go for us?

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Celtic and rangers are different animals altogether. Steeped in history, both political and social. In my opinion both those clubs are bigger than the majority of premier league clubs.

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Originally Posted by Forgotmyoldaccount

- Capital City of the country.
- Modern, developed City, with a local airport.
- 33k seater modern stadium with room to expand further.
- 1 million (+) catchment area without another local club our size nearby.

With a rich owner and top 6 Premier League football (Leicester City level), we have huge potential. Could become Wales' answer to Celtic and Rangers.

With all this talk of rich arabs buying a Newcastle, why not go for us?

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Being a capital city is pretty meaningless in the great scheme of things. Cardiff is not a state capital and has far less gravitas than regional capitals such as Munich and Milan.

We have a mega rich owner.

But there haven't been too many times when ploughing a load more money into us would have been sensible. More often than not it would have been throwing good money after bad.
When we went up, if we had spent an additional 30, 40, or even 50 million quid we would still probably have been amongst the favourites to go down. Fulham spend 100m and went back down.
If we had spent an extra 20m this summer, we'd have a better chance of going up, but we certainly wouldn't be a dead cert
We haven't represented good value as an investment so I'm not surprised Tan hasn't got the chequebook out more often.
He's not a football man himself so is relying on the input from others, and given what's happened with most of those I'm not surprised he hasn't splashed more cash.
If we found ourselves at the top of the table come january then I think funds would be available. If we have an outside chance of the playoffs then probably not.

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Originally Posted by Forgotmyoldaccount

- Capital City of the country.
- Modern, developed City, with a local airport.
- 33k seater modern stadium with room to expand further.
- 1 million (+) catchment area without another local club our size nearby.

With a rich owner and top 6 Premier League football (Leicester City level), we have huge potential. Could become Wales' answer to Celtic and Rangers.

With all this talk of rich arabs buying a Newcastle, why not go for us?

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By mega rich I presume you are looking for somebody who will cough up £60m* to buy the shares, £140m* to repay Tan and others loans to the club and then spend about a £100m out of his pocket rather than saddle the club with loaning money, to have a great knowledge of football, a fantastic empathy for CCFC and its fans and to attend most if not all matches.

Not put up ticket prices, not result in the stadium having a name that you do not like, not do anything that fans wouldn't like and if we failed to achieve promotion then you would expect him to spend again or to move on.

Yes, we can all dream and I understand that!

* I'll leave it others who really know to correct my figures.

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Originally Posted by Forgotmyoldaccount

- Capital City of the country.
- Modern, developed City, with a local airport.
- 33k seater modern stadium with room to expand further.
- 1 million (+) catchment area without another local club our size nearby.

With a rich owner and top 6 Premier League football (Leicester City level), we have huge potential. Could become Wales' answer to Celtic and Rangers.

With all this talk of rich arabs buying a Newcastle, why not go for us?

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We are a small provincial city, with little profile outside of the UK.
We lack many of the attractions of bigger cities.

there are more than 150 stadiums in Europe that are bigger than ours.

the catchment area is debateable, it also has a low spending power compared to a lot of the rest of the UK.

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Originally Posted by Rjk

We are a small provincial city, with little profile outside of the UK.
We lack many of the attractions of bigger cities.

there are more than 150 stadiums in Europe that are bigger than ours.

the catchment area is debateable, it also has a low spending power compared to a lot of the rest of the UK.

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Yes, but apart from that............ :hehe:

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Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie

Yes, but apart from that............ :hehe:

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What have the Malaysians/work experience boy ever done for us?

If I was a mega rich investor I'd potentially be looking at a French club, as PSG getting all the best players could mean better TV deals for their league - more income. And they were particularly badly hit by covid as they were the only league not to resume in 2020, so there may be clubs out there that are seeking investment.

In England you'd think that Derby might be available for a small fee fairly soon. Sheffield Wednesday have plenty of potential as well.

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Originally Posted by Forgotmyoldaccount

- Capital City of the country.
- Modern, developed City, with a local airport.
- 33k seater modern stadium with room to expand further.
- 1 million (+) catchment area without another local club our size nearby.

With a rich owner and top 6 Premier League football (Leicester City level), we have huge potential. Could become Wales' answer to Celtic and Rangers.

With all this talk of rich arabs buying a Newcastle, why not go for us?

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Because Newcastle United is an established Premier League club and Cardiff City is not?

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Originally Posted by life on mars

For me it has always been a PUZZLE but no they rather Wolves or Leicester ,especially after Euro 2016 where you could see that football in Wales is a big thing to the fans .

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Is it ‘cause we’re Welsh ?

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Originally Posted by Tuerto

Celtic and rangers are different animals altogether. Steeped in history, both political and social. In my opinion both those clubs are bigger than the majority of premier league clubs.

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They're big fish in a small pond. Who cares about them outside Scotland?

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Originally Posted by LeningradCowboy

They're big fish in a small pond. Who cares about them outside Scotland?

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yep I doubt a rich sheikh will he buying either of those two. yes they're practically guaranteed a champions League qualifier, and Celtic raise a lot of money from merch, but there is just not much TV money in the Scottish game. considerably less than the championship.

I agree that Cardiff City should (in theory) be an attractive club to purchase, with less big clubs in the area to rival us and the Welsh angle could be played out to good effect in the overseas markets.

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Originally Posted by Rjk

We have a mega rich owner.

He's not a football man himself so is relying on the input from others.

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Are any of the super rich football club owners football men?

[QUOTE=BLUETIT;5214322]Is it ‘cause we’re Welsh ?[/QUOTE

But, but, the lovely ladies wear daffodils on thier heads whilst the man drink Carling and do the sheep thingy , must be some profitable opportunity's there ?

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Originally Posted by The Bloop

1. I thought we had a rich owner
2. I dont want to be Wales's equivalent to Celtic or Rangers

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Not sure about the last time, but for our first outing in the sunshine league Tan was the 11th wealthiest owner in the PL.
He hangs our with lots of wealthy folk no doubt, in China and around the world, I’m sure he knows some who want to pick up a club whose value will rocket upon a promotion…..at least you’d think he would?

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Originally Posted by The Hooded Claw

I agree that Cardiff City should (in theory) be an attractive club to purchase, with less big clubs in the area to rival us and the Welsh angle could be played out to good effect in the overseas markets.

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Rivalry is a massive reason that people watch football, so I doubt that the lack of other big clubs near Cardiff is attractive for a potential owner.

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Originally Posted by goats

He hangs our with lots of wealthy folk no doubt

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And not one of them has mentioned the trousers situation:sherlock:

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Originally Posted by Forgotmyoldaccount

- Capital City of the country.
- Modern, developed City, with a local airport.
- 33k seater modern stadium with room to expand further.
- 1 million (+) catchment area without another local club our size nearby.

With a rich owner and top 6 Premier League football (Leicester City level), we have huge potential. Could become Wales' answer to Celtic and Rangers.

With all this talk of rich arabs buying a Newcastle, why not go for us?

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Back where you came form Sam, and take your free ice cream with you.

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Originally Posted by LeningradCowboy

Rivalry is a massive reason that people watch football, so I doubt that the lack of other big clubs near Cardiff is attractive for a potential owner.

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Aye, league 1 Sunderland were a massive pull in the Newcastle bid.

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Originally Posted by Forgotmyoldaccount

- Capital City of the country.
- Modern, developed City, with a local airport.
- 33k seater modern stadium with room to expand further.
- 1 million (+) catchment area without another local club our size nearby.

With a rich owner and top 6 Premier League football (Leicester City level), we have huge potential. Could become Wales' answer to Celtic and Rangers.

With all this talk of rich arabs buying a Newcastle, why not go for us?

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Have you SEEN Cardiff Airport?

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Originally Posted by bobh

Have you SEEN Cardiff Airport?

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No, they've hidden it behind Barry.

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Originally Posted by LeningradCowboy

They're big fish in a small pond. Who cares about them outside Scotland?

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Celtic have the majority of Ireland supporting them.

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Originally Posted by Tuerto

Celtic have the majority of Ireland supporting them.

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man utd and Liverpool have a lot more fans in Ireland than Celtic do

On a positive note, I believe we are a far more attractive club to invest in than we were say 20 odd years ago.

We've been to 2 major cup finals in that time, had two seasons in the Premier League, until Covid we regularly pulled in over 20,000 for each home game, our hooligan fan reputation seems to be a thing of the past and we have a capacious modern stadium.

Historically, we don't compare well with a whole host of clubs that have spent far more time in the top tier than we have but certainly in recent times that is not the case. But I don't expect any wealthy investors willing to take a gamble on us in the current financial climate.

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Originally Posted by LeningradCowboy

Rivalry is a massive reason that people watch football, so I doubt that the lack of other big clubs near Cardiff is attractive for a potential owner.

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Owners don’t care about rivalries, they care about the potential to hopefully make money. That’s why Ryan Reynolds and Rob McElhenney have bought Wrexham.

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Originally Posted by Rjk

man utd and Liverpool have a lot more fans in Ireland than Celtic do

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Not the point

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Originally Posted by Rjk

man utd and Liverpool have a lot more fans in Ireland than Celtic do

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I don't know if that's correct or not, I'll take your word for it though. What I do know is that there are over 50 official Celtic supporters clubs in Ireland and a fair few that aren't official.

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Originally Posted by dembethewarrior

Back where you came form Sam, and take your free ice cream with you.

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Go and buy a crap spanish pub side and take your little ice cream fan club with you :hehe:

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Originally Posted by stan butler

Go and buy a crap spanish pub side and take your little ice cream fan club with you :hehe:

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:hehe:

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Originally Posted by dembethewarrior

Aye, league 1 Sunderland were a massive pull in the Newcastle bid.

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Doesn't that prove my point? No other big clubs in the area and Ashley has been trying to sell Newcastle for years without success.

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Originally Posted by LeningradCowboy

Doesn't that prove my point? No other big clubs in the area and Ashley has been trying to sell Newcastle for years without success.

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I'll let you know in the morning when I've re read the thread. Usually up by 4.30 so my eyes are failing me as I type :hehe:

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Originally Posted by The Hooded Claw

Owners don’t care about rivalries, they care about the potential to hopefully make money. That’s why Ryan Reynolds and Rob McElhenney have bought Wrexham.

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Most clubs make money from people watching their team play. You don't think that rivalry attracts football supporters?

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Originally Posted by LeningradCowboy

Most clubs make money from people watching their team play. You don't think that rivalry attracts football supporters?

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I thought it came mostly from TV money. Owners are looking to get their clubs into the big leagues to make money from TV and maybe sell on to the next interested party, aren’t they?