Peterborough and Cardiff charged by the FA

Peterborough United and Cardiff City have been charged by the Football Association for a melee during their 2-2 Championship draw on Tuesday.

A foul by Cardiff's Marlon Pack in the 43rd minute sparked a shoving match, with Pack and Bluebirds team-mate Aden Flint being booked.

The clubs allegedly failed to ensure their players conducted themselves in an orderly fashion.

Both Peterborough and Cardiff have until Monday to respond to the charge.

The game was goalless at the break, with Flint scoring two late goals to rescue Mick McCarthy's visitors a point from 2-0 down.

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Originally Posted by Michael Morris

Peterborough United and Cardiff City have been charged by the Football Association for a melee during their 2-2 Championship draw on Tuesday.

A foul by Cardiff's Marlon Pack in the 43rd minute sparked a shoving match, with Pack and Bluebirds team-mate Aden Flint being booked.

The clubs allegedly failed to ensure their players conducted themselves in an orderly fashion.

Both Peterborough and Cardiff have until Monday to respond to the charge.

The game was goalless at the break, with Flint scoring two late goals to rescue Mick McCarthy's visitors a point from 2-0 down.

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As Lee Dixon says a lot on NBC, "game's gone". It was handbags (male or female) at ten paces.

Charged with what? Acting out a playground spat.

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Originally Posted by Michael Morris

Peterborough United and Cardiff City have been charged by the Football Association for a melee during their 2-2 Championship draw on Tuesday.

A foul on Cardiff's Marlon Pack in the 43rd minute sparked a shoving match, with Pack and Bluebirds team-mate Aden Flint being booked by the inept referee who had got another major decision wrong.

The clubs allegedly failed to ensure their players conducted themselves in an orderly fashion.

Both Peterborough and Cardiff have until Monday to respond to the charge.

The game was goalless at the break, with Flint scoring two late goals to rescue Mick McCarthy's visitors a point from 2-0 down.

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Statement amended for accuracy.

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Originally Posted by Michael Morris

Peterborough United and Cardiff City have been charged by the Football Association for a melee during their 2-2 Championship draw on Tuesday.

A foul by Cardiff's Marlon Pack in the 43rd minute sparked a shoving match, with Pack and Bluebirds team-mate Aden Flint being booked.

The clubs allegedly failed to ensure their players conducted themselves in an orderly fashion.

Both Peterborough and Cardiff have until Monday to respond to the charge.

The game was goalless at the break, with Flint scoring two late goals to rescue Mick McCarthy's visitors a point from 2-0 down.

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That should say "a foul inflicted on Marlon Pack".....followed by a load of play acting by the aggressor that connned a ref, not experienced at this level, into booking Pack. Ref missed a terrible studs in first assault on KM, too. That should have been a red.

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Originally Posted by jon1959

Statement amended for accuracy.

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Exactly, this should be a three way enquiry, with the ref explaining his actions which led to the melee.

Jesus it was just a ruck

Far better the FA censured the ref regarding his duty of care to the players on the pitch. At the minimum two Peterborough players (for fouls on Pack & Moore) should have been given red cards. The first case was added to by the home player, who had committed an awful challenge, then lying motionless on the pitch for ages pretending to be the sinned party.

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Originally Posted by Steve the Tea

Far better the FA censured the ref regarding his duty of care to the players on the pitch. At the minimum two Peterborough players (for fouls on Pack & Moore) should have been given red cards. The first case was added to by the home player, who had committed an awful challenge, then lying motionless on the pitch for ages pretending to be the sinned party.

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Aden Flint should be praised for his self restraint after the foul on Pack.

The local Peterborough press have changed their tune on the incident. Their report on the FA charge now says:

The flashpoint started when Nathan Thompson miscontrolled a pass in the centre of the pitch and flew into a tackle on Cardiff’s Marlon Pack.

The Cardiff players took issue with the challenge and from there the melee grew to include almost all 22 players on the pitch.

https://www.peterboroughtoday.co.uk/...-melee-3352955

We'll get a telling off, that's all. It's not like we're always causing trouble.

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Originally Posted by jon1959

The local Peterborough press have changed their tune on the incident. Their report on the FA charge now says:

The flashpoint started when Nathan Thompson miscontrolled a pass in the centre of the pitch and flew into a tackle on Cardiff’s Marlon Pack.

The Cardiff players took issue with the challenge and from there the melee grew to include almost all 22 players on the pitch.

https://www.peterboroughtoday.co.uk/...-melee-3352955

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Which is accurate.

But I think if the ref had booked the Peterborough player and awarded a free kick to city, which would have been the correct decision, the incident wouldn't have escalated.

So one could argue it was the ineptness and uselessness of the referee which resulted in players over reacting. I wonder if he will be charged for bringing the game into disrepute.

You can hardly blame the players when the referee was the architect of the problem.

And THAT is exactly what city should put in their response to the FA.

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Originally Posted by Steve the Tea

Far better the FA censured the ref regarding his duty of care to the players on the pitch. At the minimum two Peterborough players (for fouls on Pack & Moore) should have been given red cards. The first case was added to by the home player, who had committed an awful challenge, then lying motionless on the pitch for ages pretending to be the sinned party.

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I'm surprised more people haven't raised the Moore incident. I thought it was disgusting and a straight red. He missed the ball and went over the top of Moore's foot. Perhaps because he managed to drag the ball under control immediately after the foul it managed to hoodwink the ref... But again, if that's the case the ref was completely inept because winning the ball or not, going over someone like with with your studs is a foul.

Somewhat surprised Peterborough weren't also charged with failing to control a member of staff. Portly bloke in a black Peterborough tracksuit who looked to either be an academy coach or ball boy manager (with some young lads also in Peterborough tracksuits) began goading the away end at the end which did attract the attention of our players. Very random as he didn't seem to be part of their official coaching staff, but still an employee of the host club giving it billy big bollocks to an away end. Very unprofessional, anyone else see this happen?

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Somewhat surprised Peterborough weren't also charged with failing to control a member of staff. Portly bloke in a black Peterborough tracksuit who looked to either be an academy coach or ball boy manager (with some young lads also in Peterborough tracksuits) began goading the away end at the end which did attract the attention of our players. Very random as he didn't seem to be part of their official coaching staff, but still an employee of the host club giving it billy big bollocks to an away end. Very unprofessional, anyone else see this happen?

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No I didn't see that but during and since the game, the behaviour of some of their players and media have been awful. I really hope they suffer this season and go down. I think they are too good to go down but I would love it. Showing themselves to be a horrible vile little club... And it's funny because I never gave them a second thought before Tuesday.

If the FA thoroughly reviewed that game then the ref would never ref in the Championship again. Apparently it was only his 3rd game at Championship level. It showed. He had no control of the game whatsoever and was getting bullied by both sets of players.

Their centre back was out of control on a few challenges, not just the Pack one, but then so was Mozza for stamping on Clarke-Harris.

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Originally Posted by AfricanBluebird

I'm surprised more people haven't raised the Moore incident. I thought it was disgusting and a straight red. He missed the ball and went over the top of Moore's foot. Perhaps because he managed to drag the ball under control immediately after the foul it managed to hoodwink the ref... But again, if that's the case the ref was completely inept because winning the ball or not, going over someone like with with your studs is a foul.

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I can never get over the number of TV and Radio commentators and pundits who still say 'never a foul 'e got the ball!' - it's irrelevant according to the laws. That was a reckless challenge and the ref. should be disciplined for his performance.

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Originally Posted by AfricanBluebird

No I didn't see that but during and since the game, the behaviour of some of their players and media have been awful. I really hope they suffer this season and go down. I think they are too good to go down but I would love it. Showing themselves to be a horrible vile little club... And it's funny because I never gave them a second thought before Tuesday.

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They've never been on my radar much either but you're right, they've come across very poorly. The incident that Der Kaiser described is well out of order and dangerous. It does mean that when they play us at CCS it'll add some spice to the atmosphere though.

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Originally Posted by Steve the Tea

Far better the FA censured the ref regarding his duty of care to the players on the pitch. At the minimum two Peterborough players (for fouls on Pack & Moore) should have been given red cards. The first case was added to by the home player, who had committed an awful challenge, then lying motionless on the pitch for ages pretending to be the sinned party.

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100% this :thumbup:

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Originally Posted by IanD

Aden Flint should be praised for his self restraint after the foul on Pack.

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Was it because we were pretty in pink?

I think Cardiff have a reasonable defence here but bet the FA find them guilty and ignore the fact the ref got the decision hopelessly wrong which exasperated the situation

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Originally Posted by Don Corleone

I think Cardiff have a reasonable defence here but bet the FA find them guilty and ignore the fact the ref got the decision hopelessly wrong which exasperated the situation

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exacerbated? Just saying. :getscoat:

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Originally Posted by AfricanBluebird

I'm surprised more people haven't raised the Moore incident. I thought it was disgusting and a straight red. He missed the ball and went over the top of Moore's foot. Perhaps because he managed to drag the ball under control immediately after the foul it managed to hoodwink the ref... But again, if that's the case the ref was completely inept because winning the ball or not, going over someone like with with your studs is a foul.

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It was an awful challenge. I've refereed in the past and God knows I didn't get everything right (and it's obviously 100x tougher at that level) but f*ck me some of it was so obvious! The challenge on Moore was horrendous!

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Originally Posted by AfricanBluebird

I'm surprised more people haven't raised the Moore incident. I thought it was disgusting and a straight red. He missed the ball and went over the top of Moore's foot. Perhaps because he managed to drag the ball under control immediately after the foul it managed to hoodwink the ref... But again, if that's the case the ref was completely inept because winning the ball or not, going over someone like with with your studs is a foul.

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Was that the one the commentator mentioned what would ampadu think..

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Missed his head by miles😇. Merely enquiring as to his welfare. Very restrained. Rematch on Tuesday February 8th.

https://londonnewsonline.co.uk/it-ba...over-charlton/

So he makes a bad decision in his previous game in League One and the FA then move him up a level for his next game.

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Originally Posted by City123

It was an awful challenge. I've refereed in the past and God knows I didn't get everything right (and it's obviously 100x tougher at that level) but f*ck me some of it was so obvious! The challenge on Moore was horrendous!

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I do hope he's OK for tomorrow. At the least, bad bruising and swelling. Could have had a broken ankle.

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I do hope he's OK for tomorrow. At the least, bad bruising and swelling. Could have had a broken ankle.

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There's a 'Friday Feature' up on the club website - quizzing Pack about the team/squad - and both Moore and Pack look fine.

Mind you, one of them was sitting down and the other just ambled past, so not the sternest fitness test!

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Originally Posted by jon1959

There's a 'Friday Feature' up on the club website - quizzing Pack about the team/squad - and both Moore and Pack look fine.

Mind you, one of them was sitting down and the other just ambled past, so not the sternest fitness test!

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KM coming on the pitch always makes me think of a horse being reluctantly led to the knackers yard....he always looks tired before he starts which, at a guess, will be on 70 minutes tomorrow when we are one nil down. So long as he is good for a goal.

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Originally Posted by Der Kaiser

Somewhat surprised Peterborough weren't also charged with failing to control a member of staff. Portly bloke in a black Peterborough tracksuit who looked to either be an academy coach or ball boy manager (with some young lads also in Peterborough tracksuits) began goading the away end at the end which did attract the attention of our players. Very random as he didn't seem to be part of their official coaching staff, but still an employee of the host club giving it billy big bollocks to an away end. Very unprofessional, anyone else see this happen?

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Yes, we noticed that as we were stood towards the front, close to the dugouts. Very, very odd unprofessional behaviour which rankled and really should be looked into by Peterbrough. Fancy sending your email to their club, DK?

I got a bit of footage of that on fb I filmed but no idea how to post on here

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?sto...3&id=785829407

Looks to me like someone in the city end must have done something and it starts off by one of the kids trainers telling our stewards to keep an eye on one of our supporters as he'd done something to piss him off.
Then one or two of the city supporters start goading the Peterborough ball boys into starting something but it was all over quickly before anything happened

Not sure if these work

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?sto...8&id=785829407

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Not sure if these work

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?sto...8&id=785829407

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The links worked fine. Much appreciated.