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Global Prices Rises On Many Commodities
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-58847275
So many factors in play around the world life is going get more expensive.
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Don’t forget the NI hike, Council Tax increases and increased utilities costs.
If we have a particularly cold winter this year a lot of people are going to be in trouble.
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life on mars
its all the Tories Fault :thumbup:
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Hopefully food prices will be a blip but I very much doubt prices will fall at the same rate they will be going up when the various crisis are over.
However, there does appear to be a lack of a coherent plan to move the country forward (not just after brexit) that are causing the non-food increases in the UK.
The recent deal with Norway was a step forward but we should be moving our economy and country to a future that doesn't rely on us importing petrol, diesel and gas and towards producing our own clean electricity; it's crazy we aren't working on tidal energy as it is far more reliable than wind and solar plus it's on all four sides of the UK.
The money being wasted on HS2 could totally revolutionise our energy grid, housing and vehicle charging infrastructure whilst creating jobs throughout the UK not just in a corridor between London and Brum.
Food is a more difficult fix however it is easy to fix the lack of employees here to pick the food we grow and to drive the lorries to move it around the UK. However, any companies that import workers must train up an equivalent number of UK people to eventually take up those roles. Then any quotas can be tapered over time.
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blue matt
its all the Tories Fault :thumbup:
Just wondering, was your attitude the same towards the Labour Government in 2008 or was that all their fault?
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blue matt
its all the Tories Fault :thumbup:
Even if its not their fault only ***** vote for them.
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Canton Kev
Don’t forget the NI hike, Council Tax increases and increased utilities costs.
If we have a particularly cold winter this year a lot of people are going to be in trouble.
At least if we have a particularly cold winter electricity bills will drop, on account of there being no electricity..
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life on mars
Wherever you look there's a storm brewing. Across the 'western world'. 20 plus years of bad, lazy government[s], strong on rhetoric but short on sensible and practical ideas, are beginning to have an effect. Nothing seems quite right anymore. Companies that have lost £millions since they started and are never likely to go into profit are worth £billions. Even China is facing a £5 trillion property -related nightmare.
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Originally Posted by
blue matt
its all the Tories Fault :thumbup:
Or Brexit
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A Quiet Monkfish
Wherever you look there's a storm brewing. Across the 'western world'. 20 plus years of bad, lazy government[s], strong on rhetoric but short on sensible and practical ideas, are beginning to have an effect. Nothing seems quite right anymore. Companies that have lost £millions since they started and are never likely to go into profit are worth £billions. Even China is facing a £5 trillion property -related nightmare.
I would add that some companies made many millions/ billions in those very same 20 years of competitive free markets ,wonder where that dosh is now 🤔 ?
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blue matt
its all the Tories Fault :thumbup:
Your chaps have had a decade plus now
We are out of Europe
It's certainly not Labour's fault , is it ?
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life on mars
Or Brexit
I think that's right
It's a bit of both
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Harry Paget Flashman
Even if its not their fault only ***** vote for them.
It is their fault
Universal credit?
1000 quid a year for some , wiped out
Utter bastards
Hopefully those who voted for them and yet again have been crapped on will think twice
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blue matt
its all the Tories Fault :thumbup:
It’s not their fault but they’re not minimising the impacts fairly
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SLUDGE FACTORY
It is their fault
Universal credit?
1000 quid a year for some , wiped out
Utter bastards
Hopefully those who voted for them and yet again have been crapped on will think twice
Did they need to raise it in the first place?
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A Quiet Monkfish
Wherever you look there's a storm brewing. Across the 'western world'. 20 plus years of bad, lazy government[s], strong on rhetoric but short on sensible and practical ideas, are beginning to have an effect. Nothing seems quite right anymore. Companies that have lost £millions since they started and are never likely to go into profit are worth £billions. Even China is facing a £5 trillion property -related nightmare.
We’ve profited for years off our unfair leverage of the poor. Both domestically and internationally. Now the west is looking for a more egalitarian society we’ve got to pay for it a different way.
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SLUDGE FACTORY
It is their fault
Universal credit?
1000 quid a year for some , wiped out
Utter bastards
Hopefully those who voted for them and yet again have been crapped on will think twice
It was increased as a result of the pandemic, alongside things like furlough and loads of other support. Are you saying that there should be no emergency support for families in times of crisis?
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You can see it all here: https://tradingeconomics.com/commodities
Some of the rises are eye watering. Not uncommon in certain sectors at various points of crisis (like oil price in the middle east if there s a war etc) but the rises across the board are startling.
Numerous factors, but the over-riding one is a global economy that shutdown and then re-started, with everyone scrambling for a finite amount of gas, corn, coal, shipping containers, steel etc etc at the same time.
Since the start of 2021..
Brent Oil up 62%
Natural GAs up 125%
Gasoline up 70%
Propane up 126%
TTF Gas up 358%
Steel up 40%
Coal up 198%
Tin up 80%
Lithium up 254%
Coffee up 54%
Sugar up 31%
Oat up 80%
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JamesWales
It was increased as a result of the pandemic, alongside things like furlough and loads of other support. Are you saying that there should be no emergency support for families in times of crisis?
A few pages back you were claiming the COVID additional funding for the NHS was meeting the Brexit bus £350m funding lie!
You seem to like emergency funding when it suits your argument and political view, but dislike it when it doesn’t.
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jon1959
A few pages back you were claiming the COVID additional funding for the NHS was meeting the Brexit bus £350m funding lie!
You seem to like emergency funding when it suits your argument and political view, but dislike it when it doesn’t.
No I didn't.
I said increases in the NHS budget since 2016 have, even allowing for inflation, increased the NHS budget by more than £350m a week. And they have. Thats nothing to do with Covid.
I also don't object to the UK govt keeping the U/C uplift (my ex kids benefit from it too). I'm just saying, it was increased as a result of the pandemic, as a temporary uplift. Temporary solutions, by definition don't last.
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JamesWales
No I didn't.
I said increases in the NHS budget since 2016 have, even allowing for inflation, increased the NHS budget by more than £350m a week. And they have. Thats nothing to do with Covid.
I also don't object to the UK govt keeping the U/C uplift (my ex kids benefit from it too). I'm just saying, it was increased as a result of the pandemic, as a temporary uplift. Temporary solutions, by definition don't last.
I meant ex and kids btw...just to clarify..:frown:
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WJ99mobile
Did they need to raise it in the first place?
Yes
It's feck all to live on anyway
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JamesWales
It was increased as a result of the pandemic, alongside things like furlough and loads of other support. Are you saying that there should be no emergency support for families in times of crisis?
I don't remember saying that ? 🤔
In fact there hasn't been enough emergency support
20 quid might be feck all to you
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JamesWales
No I didn't.
I said increases in the NHS budget since 2016 have, even allowing for inflation, increased the NHS budget by more than £350m a week. And they have. Thats nothing to do with Covid.
I also don't object to the UK govt keeping the U/C uplift (my ex kids benefit from it too). I'm just saying, it was increased as a result of the pandemic, as a temporary uplift. Temporary solutions, by definition don't last.
Yes you do , help when I suits your horrible capitalist ways , everyone else can piss off and sink
This is a dual poster and I know who it is
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SLUDGE FACTORY
Yes you do , help when I suits your horrible capitalist ways , everyone else can piss off and sink
This is a dual poster and I know who it is
Jesus christ mun :hehe:
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JamesWales
No I didn't.
I said increases in the NHS budget since 2016 have, even allowing for inflation, increased the NHS budget by more than £350m a week. And they have. Thats nothing to do with Covid.
I also don't object to the UK govt keeping the U/C uplift (my ex kids benefit from it too). I'm just saying, it was increased as a result of the pandemic, as a temporary uplift. Temporary solutions, by definition don't last.
The thing is , you have defined it to suit your agenda
The 80 quid a month increase was what it should have been in the first place
Benefits have been frozen for years under the tory lot
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SLUDGE FACTORY
Yes
It's feck all to live on anyway
Depends on how you view benefits and social security
To me it should be ensure the absolute basics but that's it. A roof over your head, a house warm enough to live and enough food so you don't go hungry. UBI looks at it another way - if you side with that more fair enough.
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JamesWales
Jesus christ mun :hehe:
I knew it was you, it's obvious
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WJ99mobile
Depends on how you view benefits and social security
To me it should be ensure the absolute basics but that's it. A roof over your head, a house warm enough to live and enough food so you don't go hungry. UBI looks at it another way - if you side with that more fair enough.
It doesn't even provide for the basics
Are you aware of the attacks on the benefits system by the Conservatives?
Do you know anything about benefits ?
If you do then you will know people on them are having their bollocks squeezed by these utter bastards in government
Life of luxury my arse
Thats what people think it is
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WJ99mobile
Depends on how you view benefits and social security
To me it should be ensure the absolute basics but that's it. A roof over your head, a house warm enough to live and enough food so you don't go hungry. UBI looks at it another way - if you side with that more fair enough.
Hold on I have to read this again
So .....a woman who previously earned good money and paid her taxes working as a lawyer gets injured in a car crash, other drivers fault
She can't work anymore
So she should live a basic life on whatever benefit you want to name .......the main ones will be PIP and ESA .......and thats it then ?
That's the society you want is it ?
Kin hell get out of here
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SLUDGE FACTORY
I knew it was you, it's obvious
I genuinely have no idea what you are talking about, but it's a bit creepy.
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SLUDGE FACTORY
The thing is , you have defined it to suit your agenda
The 80 quid a month increase was what it should have been in the first place
Benefits have been frozen for years under the tory lot
No, there is no redefining anything. The NHS budget, excluding inflation, is more than £350m a week higher than it was in 2016.
You can work it out yourself here if you like. This is England only, but Wales, Scotland and NI get the same equivalent increase to spend as they like. The evil fascist Tory scum did also give a seperate huge uplift due to Covid, but that's seperate figures.
https://www.kingsfund.org.uk/project...ell/nhs-budget
I don't necessarily disagree with you that benefits could, maybe should be higher, but that doesn't change the fact that the uplift was temporary and govts have to be able to do things temporarily sometimes. I bet they wish they didn't bother now.
Benefits haven't been frozen. We spend £212bn on benefits now. Was £148bn under the last Labour government.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/...ure-in-the-uk/
It's one thing to oppose a political party, but you can't just make stuff up. It's the equivalent of you wandering around shouting "SWANSEA CITY ARE IN THE VAUXHALL CONFERENCE" you may wish it was so, but reality says otherwise.
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JamesWales
No, there is no redefining anything. The NHS budget, excluding inflation, is more than £350m a week higher than it was in 2016.
You can work it out yourself here if you like. This is England only, but Wales, Scotland and NI get the same equivalent increase to spend as they like. The evil fascist Tory scum did also give a seperate huge uplift due to Covid, but that's seperate figures.
https://www.kingsfund.org.uk/project...ell/nhs-budget
I don't necessarily disagree with you that benefits could, maybe should be higher, but that doesn't change the fact that the uplift was temporary and govts have to be able to do things temporarily sometimes. I bet they wish they didn't bother now.
Benefits haven't been frozen. We spend £212bn on benefits now. Was £148bn under the last Labour government.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/...ure-in-the-uk/
It's one thing to oppose a political party, but you can't just make stuff up. It's the equivalent of you wandering around shouting "SWANSEA CITY ARE IN THE VAUXHALL CONFERENCE" you may wish it was so, but reality says otherwise.
I know who you are , you ain't kidding me
You realise that the overall spend on benefits might have risen but that benefits were frozen for many years after the last Labour government ?
Unless you want to deny that George Osbourne froze benefits ?
Good luck 👍
Slowly Slowly catchy monkey
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SLUDGE FACTORY
I know who you are , you ain't kidding me
You realise that the overall spend on benefits might have risen but that benefits were frozen for many years after the last Labour government ?
Unless you want to deny that George Osbourne froze benefits ?
Good luck ��
Slowly Slowly catchy monkey
Nah, sorry, spending on benefits has still risen in real terms. Some benefits may well be frozen, but it's gone on other forms of it, or pensions etc etc.
https://obr.uk/forecasts-in-depth/br...fare-spending/
These are just facts.
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SLUDGE FACTORY
Hold on I have to read this again
So .....a woman who previously earned good money and paid her taxes working as a lawyer gets injured in a car crash, other drivers fault
She can't work anymore
So she should live a basic life on whatever benefit you want to name .......the main ones will be PIP and ESA .......and thats it then ?
That's the society you want is it ?
Kin hell get out of here
They are a safety net that's all
Instead, more money should be given to the schools of those families to ensure the children are not unfairly punished
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JamesWales
Forget the state pension , that's the biggest benefit of them all
You are an imposter and I know who you are
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WJ99mobile
They are a safety net that's all
Instead, more money should be given to the schools of those families to ensure the children are not unfairly punished
So someone who is disabled ......and it ain't gonna get better and they have problems getting about .......money for them to live a decent life is a safety net ?
Good god
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ninian opinian
Jacob Rees Mogg , he knows about hardship
Working class accent if I ever heard one
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SLUDGE FACTORY
So someone who is disabled ......and it ain't gonna get better and they have problems getting about .......money for them to live a decent life is a safety net ?
Good god
Just my opinion, you don't have to agree with it
I grew up on a council estate, many in my family claimed benefits including disability allowance as you've mentioned. I've lived it.
I've also seen far too many take the ****.
In my opinion support the ones that need supporting - in my opinion the kids in school.
As above no issue if you don't agree with me, that's what the elections are for