Anyone remember Dennis Law’s handball goal against Wales at Ninian Park?

You may be interested in watching this, the “goal” is just as I remember it with Mike England claiming in an interview after the match that Law admitted it shouldn’t have been a goal.

I didn’t realise the match was played the day after the Aberfan disaster.

Wales passed it as bad as we do for most of the game and Kenneth Wolstenhome was definitely not impressed by us, but it’s worth a look at for the way spectators just kept on running on and off the pitch with nobody seeming that bothered about it.


https://youtu.be/VtZVNtjTRBY

More hard done to by the Scots posts is just what this board needs...

There doesn't seem to be much forgiveness on here , I bet some of you still hold a grudge against the Romans. :hehe::hehe::thumbup:

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Originally Posted by Jimmy the Jock

More hard done to by the Scots posts is just what this board needs...

There doesn't seem to be much forgiveness on here , I bet some of you still hold a grudge against the Romans. :hehe::hehe::thumbup:

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Anfield 77 is engrained in my heart young man. I can only forgive if and when Wales qualify for a World Cup Finals....and 85 was dodgy too.

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Originally Posted by Pearcey3

Anfield 77 is engrained in my heart young man. I can only forgive if and when Wales qualify for a World Cup Finals....and 85 was dodgy too.

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I know . My shame is eternal .

I was here in 85 , some of the things said when Jock Stein died were poor.....

Strange to see so many of the crowd wearing shirts and ties. When did that stop happening?

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Originally Posted by LeningradCowboy

Strange to see so many of the crowd wearing shirts and ties. When did that stop happening?

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Just after the romans invaded?

Cant say im suprised.

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Originally Posted by Pearcey3

Anfield 77 is engrained in my heart young man. I can only forgive if and when Wales qualify for a World Cup Finals....and 85 was dodgy too.

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I don't see why that would mean that the Scots should be forgiven for cheating? :shrug:

Off the topic slightly, was anyone else here at the City v Man City game, I think it was 1961/62 season when he deliberately broke Steve Gammons Leg? You could here the break from Canton Stand all across the ground, sadly ended a career that looked to be a very good one.

Pat Nevin was talking during Scotland’s win over Israel about their bad luck in qualifiers down the years, but then hesitated a bit and said something like people from Wales may think differently after Joe Jordan at Anfield.

I was too young to be at the Steve Gammon match, but my Dad always thought Law did it deliberately.

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Originally Posted by LeningradCowboy

Strange to see so many of the crowd wearing shirts and ties. When did that stop happening?

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When my Grandad was alive I don't think I'd ever seen him without a shirt and tie. Even in offices now they are disappearing fast.

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

Pat Nevin was talking during Scotland’s win over Israel about their bad luck in qualifiers down the years, but then hesitated a bit and said something like people from Wales may think differently after Joe Jordan at Anfield.

I was too young to be at the Steve Gammon match, but my Dad always thought Law did it deliberately.

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Paul, I’m very surprised at ‘Dennis’ instead of ‘Denis’. Although you’re in good company, apparently Dennis Bergkamp’s dad made the same mistake :hehe:

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Originally Posted by splott parker

Paul, I’m very surprised at ‘Dennis’ instead of ‘Denis’. Although you’re in good company, apparently Dennis Bergkamp’s dad made the same mistake :hehe:

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It’s Dennis because you dont want to mistake Denis for Penis or vice versa.

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Originally Posted by Cleve van Leef

It’s Dennis because you dont want to mistake Denis for Penis or vice versa.

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I think the Penis Law is there as punishment for size exaggeration. And it’s definitely Denis Law.

I’ve always spelt it with two nns - seems like I’ve been getting it wrong for nearly sixty six years :hehe:.

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

I’ve always spelt it with two nns - seems like I’ve been getting it wrong for nearly sixty six years :hehe:.

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That’s ok Paull :thumbup:

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Originally Posted by splott parker

I think the Penis Law is there as punishment for size exaggeration. And it’s definitely Denis Law.

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Well he always was an obnoxious P..rick

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Originally Posted by Cleve van Leef

Well he always was an obnoxious P..rick

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As was his team mate.............Nobby Stiles:getscoat:

He certainly stiffed us :hehe:

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

.... my Dad always thought Law did it deliberately.

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Is that him in the car driving round the pitch searching for a parking space?

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Originally Posted by Tall Midget

Is that him in the car driving round the pitch searching for a parking space?

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I’ve think I might have a stalker.

This whole Scotland thing has been exaggerated out of all proportion, Yes, Joe Jordan cheated but we were outplayed and lost 2-0 anyway and finished last in the group with a record of W1 D0 L3. In 1985 Scotland were awarded a (somewhat harsh) penalty after the ball hit one of our player's hands in the area. It happens. What are Scotland supposed to do? Turn it down?

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Originally Posted by NYCBlue

This whole Scotland thing has been exaggerated out of all proportion, Yes, Joe Jordan cheated but we were outplayed and lost 2-0 anyway and finished last in the group with a record of W1 D0 L3. In 1985 Scotland were awarded a (somewhat harsh) penalty after the ball hit one of our player's hands in the area. It happens. What are Scotland supposed to do? Turn it down?

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I’ve also always had that attitude to Maradona’s ‘hand of God’ goal. The English have labelled him a cheat ever since, ridiculous! What did they expect him to do? “I must confess ref, I punched it in”. Had, say, Gascoigne scored such a goal he’d have been labelled a cheeky hero, I can visualise The Sun’s headline ‘Gazza Hands It To ‘Em’, with a four page write up saying it was an act of genius. It was the officials faults for not doing their jobs, as it is in all wrong decisions.

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Originally Posted by splott parker

I’ve also always had that attitude to Maradona’s ‘hand of God’ goal. The English have labelled him a cheat ever since, ridiculous! What did they expect him to do? “I must confess ref, I punched it in”. Had, say, Gascoigne scored such a goal he’d have been labelled a cheeky hero, I can visualise The Sun’s headline ‘Gazza Hands It To ‘Em’, with a four page write up saying it was an act of genius. It was the officials faults for not doing their jobs, as it is in all wrong decisions.

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Ha ha ha! 100% "Take that Argies!".

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Originally Posted by NYCBlue

This whole Scotland thing has been exaggerated out of all proportion, Yes, Joe Jordan cheated but we were outplayed and lost 2-0 anyway and finished last in the group with a record of W1 D0 L3. In 1985 Scotland were awarded a (somewhat harsh) penalty after the ball hit one of our player's hands in the area. It happens. What are Scotland supposed to do? Turn it down?

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If I remember..In 85 the ball was blasted against Phillips(?) arm, and would have probably ended up in Sloper Road if it hadn’t hit him.
Never a penalty, we were robbed again.

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Originally Posted by NYCBlue

This whole Scotland thing has been exaggerated out of all proportion, Yes, Joe Jordan cheated but we were outplayed and lost 2-0 anyway and finished last in the group with a record of W1 D0 L3. In 1985 Scotland were awarded a (somewhat harsh) penalty after the ball hit one of our player's hands in the area. It happens. What are Scotland supposed to do? Turn it down?

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Jordan’s reaction after his blatant cheating was rewarded was the thing I disliked the most and, although it counted for very little in the grand scheme of things, I was really pleased when he was sent off in another Wales v Scotland match at the Vetch a few years later. The penalty in 1985 was more debatable and I can understand why that one was given, it was how close Neville Southall came to saving it that was more galling to me at the time.

However, you’re not telling me that Scotland, a more passionate football nation than us I would say, would just forget about how Wales had benefitted if the roles had been reveresed and, say, John Toshack had done what Jordan did to ensure qualification for a World Cup?

I supported Scotland in the 1974 World Cup and felt sorry for them after the way they bowed out of that competition, but after what Jordan did, I took great pleasure in their shambolic 1978 campaign and have never regarded them in the way I used to since Anfield 1977.

'. . . it’s worth a look at for the way spectators just kept on running on and off the pitch with nobody seeming that bothered about it.'

Different world. The 12-year-old me gave John Toshack many a pat on the back after he scored a goal. The stewards made perfunctory efforts to stop us as we poured on to the field but we were far too many.

Inconceivable today.

I might not be a fan of Scotland’s football team, but I’m behind their cricket side in their T20 World Cup match with Bangladesh and they could win win - Bangladesh need 61 off 33balls with four wickets down.

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Originally Posted by Cleve van Leef

Off the topic slightly, was anyone else here at the City v Man City game, I think it was 1961/62 season when he deliberately broke Steve Gammons Leg? You could here the break from Canton Stand all across the ground, sadly ended a career that looked to be a very good one.

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I was there in the Canton Stand too and yes I can still hear the crack when his leg broke, shocking tackle and I've only just forgiven Mr McLaw since his recent passing. Think it was a bit later than 61/62, perhaps 64/65ish?

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I was there in the Canton Stand too and yes I can still hear the crack when his leg broke, shocking tackle and I've only just forgiven Mr McLaw since his recent passing. Think it was a bit later than 61/62, perhaps 64/65ish?

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He is still alive . You can rekindle your ire.

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

I might not be a fan of Scotland’s football team, but I’m behind their cricket side in their T20 World Cup match with Bangladesh and they could win win - Bangladesh need 61 off 33balls with four wickets down.

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Scotland won a game of cricket...

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Originally Posted by Jimmy the Jock

Scotland won a game of cricket...

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Joe Jordan took three catches.......great with his hands that lad.