OUR PLAYERS OUT ON LOAN ?

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23-10-21, 16:49
stan butler

OUR PLAYERS OUT ON LOAN ?

Would you recall any?
Fresh start and all that?

Watters
Whyte
Murphy
Wintle
23-10-21, 16:57
Vindec

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Whyte. He's good at tracking back and helping out the defence which currently is all over the place.
23-10-21, 17:04
stan butler

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Originally Posted by Vindec

Whyte. He's good at tracking back and helping out the defence which currently is all over the place.

Whyte put a shift in and tracked back but also looked to make a pass on the floor.
Wintle doing ok at Blackpool i think?
Murphy is hot and cold.
Watters i didn't see enough of to judge him.
23-10-21, 17:04
RichardM

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Not Murphy, haven't seen enough of Watters or Wintle to judge.

What is it with players who have surnames beginning with W?
23-10-21, 17:09
Malckent

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Originally Posted by RichardM

Not Murphy, haven't seen enough of Watters or Wintle to judge.

What is it with players who have surnames beginning with W?

My surname is Wilson but I don't know either.
23-10-21, 17:10
gabbsthenewt

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I'd bring them all back if board permitted. In this sort of dire crisis and without transfers available, we only have to cast our eyes over players deemed superfluous to requirements but still available. God knows what happened for Wintle to come in then immediately go out and there is nothing to suggest he may be any better than what we have in midfield but why on earth aren't we trying him.

The real lacking is anything going forward that doesn't fall to pieces after a first touch, Murphy and Whyte both we know can surge forward and do something and I believe they'd be better than what we are presently serving up. Whyte didn't look the finished article, lacked the final delivery often and Murphy of course is a real enigma. No improvement would be guaranteed. Max Watters would be my choice over the shirt that is currently going to Mark Harris and that's nothing personal against Mark Harris he is a real grafter but I would like to see the other goal scorer we have on our books given the chance to make good. It's in the hands of Tan and what he is happy to fund.
23-10-21, 17:17
Hilts

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We need a CM. Is Wintle better than a free agent or loan we can bring in? If so recall him.

No idea about Watters. Whyte is crap. Murphy hot and cold and we probably want his wages off the books.
23-10-21, 17:26
2b2bdoo

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I would bring them all back, I’m sure they can all add something.
23-10-21, 17:52
Cleve van Leef

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Bring them all back, if possible and give them a chance.
23-10-21, 17:56
LeningradCowboy

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Originally Posted by 2b2bdoo

I would bring them all back, I’m sure they can all add something.

Is that likely? Why do you think we loaned them out in the first place?
23-10-21, 18:06
Dorcus

Re: OUR PLAYERS OUT ON LOAN ?

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Originally Posted by stan butler

Would you recall any?
Fresh start and all that?

Watters
Whyte
Murphy
Wintle

Would like to see Wintle, not fussed on the others
23-10-21, 18:08
A Quiet Monkfish

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Originally Posted by stan butler

Would you recall any?
Fresh start and all that?

Watters
Whyte
Murphy
Wintle

Eli King, Isaak Davies . Two players making their football league debut - at Championship level, in a side with 7 defeats in a row. Skinny little kids who barely looked like they were out of their teens ! I'd have them all back.
23-10-21, 18:10
Dave Blue

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Any of them could deputise for Collins, despite being out of position. He gives us nothing.
23-10-21, 18:40
I'll give you the Malky!!

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We do not have the option if pace out wide with the current squad..Murphy has been poor but if even at 80% will offer something different.
23-10-21, 18:46
tforturton

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Originally Posted by Cleve van Leef

Bring them all back, if possible and give them a chance.

Any incoming manager should bring back all our loan players, not only to give them a chance to show what they can do, but also to give us a bigger pool of players to choose from. I imagine some of them will return come January. I don't think we can recall them before then, can we?
23-10-21, 21:15
CF23 Bluebird

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Definitely. At least they have pace and some attacking intent. Why did he sign Wintle and then ship him out to a competitor ffs?
23-10-21, 21:29
bluebirds17

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How has Wintle been out on loan compared to our current midfield. We have far too many players who are on high wages such as Bacuna, Vaulks, Pack, Morrison who are being way beyond their station and noone is interested in them.
23-10-21, 21:40
RichardM

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Originally Posted by bluebirds17

How has Wintle been out on loan compared to our current midfield. We have far too many players who are on high wages such as Bacuna, Vaulks, Pack, Morrison who are being way beyond their station and noone is interested in them.

Well if Noone is interested in them they could join him in Australia
23-10-21, 23:37
dml1954

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Originally Posted by I'll give you the Malky!!

We do not have the option if pace out wide with the current squad..Murphy has been poor but if even at 80% will offer something different.

So you think that Giles has no pace ?
23-10-21, 23:59
blue lewj

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Originally Posted by dml1954

So you think that Giles has no pace ?

He has pace, I'm just not sure he's that good.

I know a Rotherham fan who said he is very hot and cold, more cold than hot though. That, for me, would sum up his time here. When we're playing well and he is up for it he is quality but at times, like today, you don't really notice him all that much.
24-10-21, 08:21
Cleve van Leef

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Originally Posted by LeningradCowboy

Is that likely? Why do you think we loaned them out in the first place?

Because the numpty who loaned them out just got the sack proving he didn’t know his ar*e from his elbow.
24-10-21, 10:06
Pedro de la Rosa

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Originally Posted by Cleve van Leef

Because the numpty who loaned them out just got the sack proving he didn’t know his ar*e from his elbow.

There’s a reason Hull didn’t get Whyte back. Wintle might be Ok but the others aren’t good enough. Watters can’t even get into the MK Dons team and Murphy might come back but I doubt it, we probably need the money.
24-10-21, 10:16
Cleve van Leef

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Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa

There’s a reason Hull didn’t get Whyte back. Wintle might be Ok but the others aren’t good enough. Watters can’t even get into the MK Dons team and Murphy might come back but I doubt it, we probably need the money.

Let’s give them a decent chance here.
24-10-21, 10:20
Shrewsbury Blue

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Don't think any of them would improve us much if at all.

Murphy can't get into a very ordinary Preston side, we are better of with him off the wage bill. Giles is much better and Kerion Hughes might be.

Wintle is quite good but very similar to what we have anyway.

Whyte is a decent league one player not really good enough for the championship.

I would persist with the youngsters they might do better under a better manager than MM.
24-10-21, 10:58
City123

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Originally Posted by blue lewj

He has pace, I'm just not sure he's that good.

I know a Rotherham fan who said he is very hot and cold, more cold than hot though. That, for me, would sum up his time here. When we're playing well and he is up for it he is quality but at times, like today, you don't really notice him all that much.

He isn't that good and I don't really get why people bang on about Giles. He can do very little other than cross the ball, once you've figured out he wants to get the ball on his left and cross it then its a fairly easy ride for the full back
24-10-21, 11:32
Pedro de la Rosa

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Originally Posted by Cleve van Leef

Let’s give them a decent chance here.

Whyte and Murphy have had plenty of chances. Watters can’t get in a League 1 side.
24-10-21, 11:42
gabbsthenewt

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Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa

There’s a reason Hull didn’t get Whyte back. Wintle might be Ok but the others aren’t good enough. Watters can’t even get into the MK Dons team and Murphy might come back but I doubt it, we probably need the money.

Mark Harris scored 2 in 16 for Newport and 3 in 24 for Wrexham. 3 in 27 for us. Watters has joined a pretty packed strikers stable at MK Dons with Troy Parrott being understandably the hottest watched. Watters has 1 in 2 currently there. I don't think he is a guaranteed improvement of course but I'd like to see him back to give us another outlet for an attack which is completely without fruit.
24-10-21, 11:44
Pedro de la Rosa

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Originally Posted by gabbsthenewt

Mark Harris scored 2 in 16 for Newport and 3 in 24 for Wrexham. 3 in 27 for us. Watters has joined a pretty packed strikers stable at MK Dons with Troy Parrott being understandably the hottest watched. Watters has 1 in 2 currently there. I don't think he is a guaranteed improvement of course but I'd like to see him back to give us another outlet for an attack which is completely without fruit.

Let’s be honest, Mark Harris probably isn’t good enough either but has really kicked on. Watters is better off playing for MK Dons instead of not making the squad here
24-10-21, 11:50
gabbsthenewt

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Harris isn't good enough at the moment and I don't believe he ever will be, Watters imo would be better taking any minutes afforded currently to Harris, and given we are absolutely dry of goals and Dalaman is saying no more incomings in January- I don't see why not if they would accept the bill to bring him back.
24-10-21, 11:52
City123

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Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa

Let’s be honest, Mark Harris probably isn’t good enough either but has really kicked on. Watters is better off playing for MK Dons instead of not making the squad here

I agree, Harris looks a far better player this season than when he first came into the side. He's looked decent for Wales too though I think he is currently in poor form (who isn't?)

I think with Watters and the others its the classic example of bang average players going on loan and all of a sudden they're the answer to our prayers, even if they're not playing particularly well on loan
24-10-21, 12:15
life on mars

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Originally Posted by stan butler

Would you recall any?
Fresh start and all that?

Watters
Whyte
Murphy
Wintle

All were in a mess
24-10-21, 12:19
gabbsthenewt

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Originally Posted by City123

I agree, Harris looks a far better player this season than when he first came into the side. He's looked decent for Wales too though I think he is currently in poor form (who isn't?)

I think with Watters and the others its the classic example of bang average players going on loan and all of a sudden they're the answer to our prayers, even if they're not playing particularly well on loan

Being fair Watters did little wrong since being here - he was put in the same U23 team all the other lads being given the step up have been playing for and was banging them in for them last season - more so than I think Harris could even do now even with the extra time on the pitch at Championship level he has over Watters.

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