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the other bob wilson
I wait with interest for the inevitable call for 'balance' from LOM or James - who no doubt will be able to point to a pot hole filled in on a Council estate in Sunderland or similar.
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You've got to hand it to these Tories; they don't half look after their own.
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Levelling up success will be decided by democracy.
Sadly Labour didn't think of it first and it didn't tap into the views of the electorate in the North East and Scotland. .
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life on mars
Levelling up success will be decided by democracy.
Sadly Labour didn't think of it first and it didn't tap into the views of the electorate in the North East and Scotland. .
Yeah, you’ve got to hand it to Johnson and his crew, when it comes to cheap and vacuous slogans they’ve got the rest beat.
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jon1959
I wait with interest for the inevitable call for 'balance' from LOM or James - who no doubt will be able to point to a pot hole filled in on a Council estate in Sunderland or similar.
No, if the story is as reported (and it probably isn't) then it's obviously outrageous.
But is it a typical story of the levelling up finds? Or is this just the equivalent of someone posting a story about an NHS funded diversity course and claiming the whole NHS wastes money as a result?
If there's 99 good things and one bad, some people will just focus on the one bad and convince themselves the whole thing is rotten.
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JamesWales
No, if the story is as reported (and it probably isn't) then it's obviously outrageous.
But is it a typical story of the levelling up finds? Or is this just the equivalent of someone posting a story about an NHS funded diversity course and claiming the whole NHS wastes money as a result?
If there's 99 good things and one bad, some people will just focus on the one bad and convince themselves the whole thing is rotten.
He made the trains run on time though, didn't he?
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JamesWales
No, if the story is as reported (and it probably isn't) then it's obviously outrageous.
But is it a typical story of the levelling up finds? Or is this just the equivalent of someone posting a story about an NHS funded diversity course and claiming the whole NHS wastes money as a result?
If there's 99 good things and one bad, some people will just focus on the one bad and convince themselves the whole thing is rotten.
Well it’s reported in your wonderful, truthful Daily Heil so it must be true.
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JamesWales
No, if the story is as reported (and it probably isn't) then it's obviously outrageous.
But is it a typical story of the levelling up finds? Or is this just the equivalent of someone posting a story about an NHS funded diversity course and claiming the whole NHS wastes money as a result?
If there's 99 good things and one bad, some people will just focus on the one bad and convince themselves the whole thing is rotten.
I see everyone avoided your excellent point in the last para ,what a shock . I'm sure the people of the levelling up lands will decide on its success at the next election .
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life on mars
I see everyone avoided your excellent point in the last para ,what a shock . I'm sure the people of the levelling up lands will decide on its success at the next election .
Go on, name 99 good things then.
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life on mars
I see everyone avoided your excellent point in the last para ,what a shock . I'm sure the people of the levelling up lands will decide on its success at the next election .
It's not an excellent point at all. It would be excellent if he could reference even a small number of 'levelling up' policies that have actually made a difference. But, yes, you are right - ultimately we will see what 'levelling-up land' (I like that by the way :thumbup: ) makes of it.
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Swiss Peter
It's not an excellent point at all. It would be excellent if he could reference even a small number of 'levelling up' policies that have actually made a difference. But, yes, you are right - ultimately we will see what 'levelling-up land' (I like that by the way :thumbup: ) makes of it.
Not a lot currently according to this;-
https://www.express.co.uk/news/polit...starmer-tories
Incidentally, I love the way the hack puts everyone’s age after mentioning them, it seems so quaint these days.
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life on mars
I see everyone avoided your excellent point in the last para ,what a shock . I'm sure the people of the levelling up lands will decide on its success at the next election .
Nope, but as usual we get a weird reference to Mussolini and a very clever play on words calling the Daily Mail the Daily Heil. Clever stuff and definitely not indicative of people who are ideologically possessed
Nonetheless, its a fair point that in criticising an emphasis on a small number of negatives, the bigger picture should be presented.
So here's a bigger list. I note Bury FC benefitting too, bringing football back to the community. But that's good news isn't it, and who wants to read that?
https://www.constructionenquirer.com...cts-full-list/
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JamesWales
Nope, but as usual we get a weird reference to Mussolini and a very clever play on words calling the Daily Mail the Daily Heil. Clever stuff and definitely not indicative of people who are ideologically possessed
Nonetheless, its a fair point that in criticising an emphasis on a small number of negatives, the bigger picture should be presented.
So here's a bigger list. I note Bury FC benefitting too, bringing football back to the community. But that's good news isn't it, and who wants to read that?
https://www.constructionenquirer.com...cts-full-list/
'£300,000 for the North East Homeless Hub, North Shields.'
Not bad this leveling up stuff but they
could have got the private estate of a Tory peer re-tarmacced for that cost though. Waste of money.
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JamesWales
Nope, but as usual we get a weird reference to Mussolini and a very clever play on words calling the Daily Mail the Daily Heil. Clever stuff and definitely not indicative of people who are ideologically possessed
Nonetheless, its a fair point that in criticising an emphasis on a small number of negatives, the bigger picture should be presented.
So here's a bigger list. I note Bury FC benefitting too, bringing football back to the community. But that's good news isn't it, and who wants to read that?
https://www.constructionenquirer.com...cts-full-list/
Happy to explain the Mussolini reference for you.
You said that the Tories might do 99 good (but unspecified) things while everyone concentrates on one (an underestimate) bad thing.
It may be the case that that one bad thing is not evened out by the 99 good things.
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lardy
Happy to explain the Mussolini reference for you.
You said that the Tories might do 99 good (but unspecified) things while everyone concentrates on one (an underestimate) bad thing.
It may be the case that that one bad thing is not evened out by the 99 good things.
Which is clearly not the case here.
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JamesWales
Nope, but as usual we get a weird reference to Mussolini and a very clever play on words calling the Daily Mail the Daily Heil. Clever stuff and definitely not indicative of people who are ideologically possessed
Nonetheless, its a fair point that in criticising an emphasis on a small number of negatives, the bigger picture should be presented.
So here's a bigger list. I note Bury FC benefitting too, bringing football back to the community. But that's good news isn't it, and who wants to read that?
https://www.constructionenquirer.com...cts-full-list/
It’s called the Daily Heil for a reason. It’s a hateful, racist rag.
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The Foreign Secretary of a country with over 2000 food banks has spent £1,400 on her lunch. Reported today. Great levelling up and use of my tax NOT!
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-b1985560.html
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JamesWales
Which is clearly not the case here.
Name a few of the 99 and we'll see!
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lardy
Name a few of the 99 and we'll see!
I posted a full link above.
Ur being played. They don't want you to see good news, do certain papers with an agenda will spin it for you.
If you actually care about improving people's lives then you would be focusing on the many projects I posted above as opposed to a single story that almost certainly doesn't present the full picture.
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JamesWales
I posted a full link above.
Ur being played. They don't want you to see good news, do certain papers with an agenda will spin it for you.
If you actually care about improving people's lives then you would be focusing on the many projects I posted above as opposed to a single story that almost certainly doesn't present the full picture.
Er, if that list you posted appeared in the Guardian you’d be rubbishing it. A trade paper publishes something and you take it as Gospel :shrug:
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ninian opinian
Sickening!!! Has the woman no shame and what about Johnson insisting office workers should get back to work to support sandwich shops during their lunch breaks?
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JamesWales
I posted a full link above.
Ur being played. They don't want you to see good news, do certain papers with an agenda will spin it for you.
If you actually care about improving people's lives then you would be focusing on the many projects I posted above as opposed to a single story that almost certainly doesn't present the full picture.
Hi James.
Just a quick one.
Do you think there should be ANY negatives associated with levelling up?
Especially one where a Tory peer has been given over £300k of tax payers' money to repair a road on their private estate?
You also act like this is the first occasion of cronyism so we should focus on all the positive promises (that's all they are at the moment) the government have made with the Levelling Up bill.
You're not as balanced as you think or pretend to be.
Try harder.
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Dorcus
Sickening!!! Has the woman no shame and what about Johnson insisting office workers should get back to work to support sandwich shops during their lunch breaks?
Liz Truss and her companions drank two bottles of dry gin, three £153 bottles of Pazo Barrantes Albariño, a Spanish white wine and two bottles of the French red Coudoulet de Beaucastel at £130 a bottle.
At a working lunch. On expenses. At a Tory donor's establishment. Guzzling up!!!
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ninian opinian
Liz Truss and her companions drank two bottles of dry gin, three £153 bottles of Pazo Barrantes Albariño, a Spanish white wine and two bottles of the French red Coudoulet de Beaucastel at £130 a bottle.
At a working lunch. On expenses. At a Tory donor's establishment. Guzzling up!!!
They're taking us for mugs.
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the other bob wilson
Er, if that list you posted appeared in the Guardian you’d be rubbishing it. A trade paper publishes something and you take it as Gospel :shrug:
No I wouldn't. And an article that simply reported the facts without trying to push an agenda wouldn't appear in the guardian anyway
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Tito Fuente
Hi James.
Just a quick one.
Do you think there should be ANY negatives associated with levelling up?
Especially one where a Tory peer has been given over £300k of tax payers' money to repair a road on their private estate?
You also act like this is the first occasion of cronyism so we should focus on all the positive promises (that's all they are at the moment) the government have made with the Levelling Up bill.
You're not as balanced as you think or pretend to be.
Try harder.
Of course you should look at good and bad. And it's fair to criticise the ambitions of funding levels, but just focusing on speculation around one funding bid and ignoring all others is pretty pathetic.
There are always more controversial recipients of funding, it doesn't undermine the whole process. You guys are just as bad as people on the opposite end of the spectrum who do exactly the same thing, pick one example of controversial funding and rubbish everything about it
Two cheeks of the same arse!
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JamesWales
Of course you should look at good and bad. And it's fair to criticise the ambitions of funding levels, but just focusing on speculation around one funding bid and ignoring all others is pretty pathetic.
There are always more controversial recipients of funding, it doesn't undermine the whole process. You guys are just as bad as people on the opposite end of the spectrum who do exactly the same thing, pick one example of controversial funding and rubbish everything about it
Two cheeks of the same arse!
"You guys" he says to the person he has no knowledge of before today.
I haven't rubbished anything, have I James?
I've pointed out that so far we have an example of cronyism and the misuse of public funds but you'd rather we ignore that and pretty much everything else that the Tories are accused of and concentrate more on alllll of the positives that we are yet to see.
It's the same way that you defend Brexit.
You're not balanced in the slightest, no matter how many times you tell yourself and others
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Tito Fuente
"You guys" he says to the person he has no knowledge of before today.
I haven't rubbished anything, have I James?
I've pointed out that so far we have an example of cronyism and the misuse of public funds but you'd rather we ignore that and pretty much everything else that the Tories are accused of and concentrate more on alllll of the positives that we are yet to see.
It's the same way that you defend Brexit.
You're not balanced in the slightest, no matter how many times you tell yourself and others
If you are part of a small irrational band of the ideologically possessed who are incapable of discussing anything rationally, and instead must find something bad, irrespective of how much truth is even in that story, and do not engage on the wider story or the projects even happening in your area..
..then, yes I will refer to you as a collective
I posted a link to loads of projects actually receiving funding in South Wales. The sad reality is few of you give two shits. More concerned with gossip from another part of the country and keen to just endlessly, incessantly whinge. Nothing positive, ever.
Part of being balanced is pointing out quite how unhinged some of you seem.
Why not talk about some of the projects actually happening in the part of the country we live in? Do you even care?
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Originally Posted by
JamesWales
If you are part of a small irrational band of the ideologically possessed who are incapable of discussing anything rationally, and instead must find something bad, irrespective of how much truth is even in that story, and do not engage on the wider story or the projects even happening in your area..
..then, yes I will refer to you as a collective
I posted a link to loads of projects actually receiving funding in South Wales. The sad reality is few of you give two shits. More concerned with gossip from another part of the country and keen to just endlessly, incessantly whinge. Nothing positive, ever.
Part of being balanced is pointing out quite how unhinged some of you seem.
Why not talk about some of the projects actually happening in the part of the country we live in? Do you even care?
Levelling up is one of those catchy election winning phrases looking for a coherent narrative.
What has happened so far is the UK government has allocated around £4b of public money which will be drawn down in tranches for "worthy causes".
The first awards have been made, much of which you have highlighted.
The problem will always be if the phrase has meaning that the money should go to the most worthy places and causes to be "levelled up". For every instance where it is seen that:
a) the allocation of funds is based on political interest of the sitting government (eg, disproportionately to newly created Tory marginals in the "Red Wall" rather than more compelling need in safe Labour seats;
b) the money goes to areas of affluence in the South or
c) the money goes to political supporters in a way that looks nothing like whatever "Levelling Up" means
then don't be surprised that the worthy schemes get drowned out by accusations gerrymandering, political expediency or cronyism for the ones that look suspect.
I'm sure John Major thought "Back to Basics" was a catchy phrase but it needed people to walk the walk rather than just talk the talk for it to have resonance.
Who knows though, for all his personal defects Michael Gove is a thoughtful and astute politician. His Levelling Up plan may bring some coherence to the phrase but it needs to go beyond suggestions that it will be long on devolution and short on new money.
After all we know how some on here hate the idea of devolved accountabilty and new layers of democracy!
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JamesWales
If you are part of a small irrational band of the ideologically possessed who are incapable of discussing anything rationally, and instead must find something bad, irrespective of how much truth is even in that story, and do not engage on the wider story or the projects even happening in your area..
..then, yes I will refer to you as a collective
I posted a link to loads of projects actually receiving funding in South Wales. The sad reality is few of you give two shits. More concerned with gossip from another part of the country and keen to just endlessly, incessantly whinge. Nothing positive, ever.
Part of being balanced is pointing out quite how unhinged some of you seem.
Why not talk about some of the projects actually happening in the part of the country we live in? Do you even care?
Feel free to start a positive thread about levelling up if you wish. We can all have a lovely chat, a cup of tea and maybe some biscuits as we share and rejoice in how much improvement we can expect to see in the coming years thanks to this wonderful UK Government. I'm getting more teary eyed and patriotic just thinking about it. Add in some Brexit sprinkles and we're talking!
Excuse me for thinking that this thread was pointing out how public funds have been misappropriated (for the nth time) in the last few years by this corrupt bunch of charlatans. Should we not discuss that as it sits a bit too uncomfortably for you?
Should the News at 10 just tell us all of the good stuff that happened in the world today? "Tonight's headline... *BONG* The M23 Bus from Caerau to St Mellon's arrived on time today and also arrived at it's next destination safely and promptly".
Not everything needs balance, James.
Do you want to defend Epstein/Maxwell on the main board as a way of bringing balance? I'm sure they both did a great job of keeping their friends/colleagues happy.
Before you get apoplectic about that, I am using an extreme example to show that you can focus on a negative of something and not have to show another side of it to bring "balance"
The "bad thing" is the bad thing. No amount of good things can make it any better as the bad thing shouldn't have happened in the first place.
Balance is not required here. Over £300k was spent fixing a road of the private estate of a Tory peer. That should be criminal. Why aren't you angry?
"Do you even care?"
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JamesWales
Of course you should look at good and bad. And it's fair to criticise the ambitions of funding levels, but just focusing on speculation around one funding bid and ignoring all others is pretty pathetic.
There are always more controversial recipients of funding, it doesn't undermine the whole process. You guys are just as bad as people on the opposite end of the spectrum who do exactly the same thing, pick one example of controversial funding and rubbish everything about it
Two cheeks of the same arse!
You mean like some of the claims made by the Leave side in the 2016 Referendum? Oh no, you can’t actually because you’re forever defending Brexit aren’t you.
It’s funny, people you disagree with who are critical of the UK Government make a post about it backed up by a link supporting what they say and they’re part of a small minority of zealots with an agenda and you post a link supportive of the UK Government from a trade paper and you say you’re providing balance - balance is the last thing you provide because you’re so one sided. Many of those you criticise for being one eyed leftists were critical of Welsh Labour over some of their recent Covid measures and in doing so, they were more balanced in their outlook than you’ll ever be.
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the other bob wilson
You mean like some of the claims made by the Leave side in the 2016 Referendum? Oh no, you can’t actually because you’re forever defending Brexit aren’t you.
It’s funny, people you disagree with who are critical of the UK Government make a post about it backed up by a link supporting what they say and they’re part of a small minority of zealots with an agenda and you post a link supportive of the UK Government from a trade paper and you say you’re providing balance - balance is the last thing you provide because you’re so one sided. Many of those you criticise for being one eyed leftists were critical of Welsh Labour over some of their recent Covid measures and in doing so, they were more balanced in their outlook than you’ll ever be.
No they aren't. A small band of people on here are FOREVER posting endless threads that have no interest in nuance or balance, they are all attacks on one party or government using usually a tiny nugget of truth, that is never really explored (because if it is, you are insulted for not doing what the thread authors want)
It's like listening to someone radical on the Northern Ireland debate who only picks holes in the other side. Catholic this, protestant that. It's embarrasing!
You all actually think this is a normal thread title "The-Two-faced-hypocritical-Buffoon-and-his-Party-set-for-a-Mauling-at-PMQ-s-Today" :hehe:
Billions spent, hundreds of projects, loads of pro's and con's and yet all a small number of you want to talk about is some nugget of controversy on the award of one piece of funding!
Seriously, do you care about the funding of projects in south Wales, or elsewhere? Do any of you genuinely care?
Or is being angry about clickbait articles what you care more about? Is there any interest in a debate on the Levelling Up programme, or is it just gossip you care about?
This is a genuine question now, because I am starting to think you really don't care at all.
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JamesWales
No they aren't. A small band of people on here are FOREVER posting endless threads that have no interest in nuance or balance, they are all attacks on one party or government using usually a tiny nugget of truth, that is never really explored (because if it is, you are insulted for not doing what the thread authors want)
It's like listening to someone radical on the Northern Ireland debate who only picks holes in the other side. Catholic this, protestant that. It's embarrasing!
You all actually think this is a normal thread title "The-Two-faced-hypocritical-Buffoon-and-his-Party-set-for-a-Mauling-at-PMQ-s-Today" :hehe:
Billions spent, hundreds of projects, loads of pro's and con's and yet all a small number of you want to talk about is some nugget of controversy on the award of one piece of funding!
Seriously, do you care about the funding of projects in south Wales, or elsewhere? Do any of you genuinely care?
Or is being angry about clickbait articles what you care more about? Is there any interest in a debate on the Levelling Up programme, or is it just gossip you care about?
This is a genuine question now, because I am starting to think you really don't care at all.
Did you have to wipe the tears from your keyboard as you typed that? Dear God that was pathetic.
Good news = truth
Bad news = gossip
Keep pretending YOU care, James.
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JamesWales
No they aren't. A small band of people on here are FOREVER posting endless threads that have no interest in nuance or balance, they are all attacks on one party or government using usually a tiny nugget of truth, that is never really explored (because if it is, you are insulted for not doing what the thread authors want)
It's like listening to someone radical on the Northern Ireland debate who only picks holes in the other side. Catholic this, protestant that. It's embarrasing!
You all actually think this is a normal thread title "The-Two-faced-hypocritical-Buffoon-and-his-Party-set-for-a-Mauling-at-PMQ-s-Today" :hehe:
Billions spent, hundreds of projects, loads of pro's and con's and yet all a small number of you want to talk about is some nugget of controversy on the award of one piece of funding!
Seriously, do you care about the funding of projects in south Wales, or elsewhere? Do any of you genuinely care?
Or is being angry about clickbait articles what you care more about?
This is a genuine question now, because I am starting to think you really don't care at all.
You just don’t get it do you. You talk about Catholics and Protestants in Northern Ireland and yet you’re behaving in just the same way because a look at your posting history would show you that you only ever argue from a Conservative party or Brexit point of view. I agree some of us look at things from the opposite point of view to you and post threads to reflect that. I’ll admit as well that I can be one eyed politically, but, as I pointed out earlier, there are instances where I disagree with the side I tend to support. You on the other like to portray yourself as someone who weighs up subjects in an even handed manner before coming down on one side or the other, but you can’t see what’s obvious to others in this thread - you always opt for the same side :xmashehe:
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the other bob wilson
You just don’t get it do you. You talk about Catholics and Protestants in Northern Ireland and yet you’re behaving in just the same way because a look at your posting history would show you that you only ever argue from a Conservative party or Brexit point of view. I agree some of us look at things from the opposite point of view to you and post threads to reflect that. I’ll admit as well that I can be one eyed politically, but, as I pointed out earlier, there are instances where I disagree with the side I tend to support. You on the other like to portray yourself as someone who weighs up subjects in an even handed manner before coming down on one side or the other, but you can’t see what’s obvious to others in this thread - you always opt for the same side :xmashehe:
No I dont - I will argue AGAINST knee-jerk, one sided arguments that lack any attempt at balance or nuance, and I will attempt to add that to those posts.
Start a neutral thread for a change and you'll see.
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Tito Fuente
Did you have to wipe the tears from your keyboard as you typed that? Dear God that was pathetic.
Good news = truth
Bad news = gossip
Keep pretending YOU care, James.
I do care, thats why I want to talk about projects that will benefit people, not be dragged down in a story from the other side of the country.
I've worked with so many people like you before, who are only ever interested in putting up barriers and making things as difficult as possible.
It's endless negativity. Any attempt to widen the debate beyond disney-type arguments that the GovErNmEnT r EvIL just never succeeds.
Total waste of time, so enjoy what will inevitably now be another circle-jerk thread for angry old activists.
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JamesWales
No I dont - I will argue AGAINST knee-jerk, one sided arguments that lack any attempt at balance or nuance, and I will attempt to add that to those posts.
Start a neutral thread for a change and you'll see.
What's a neutral thread on the politics board out of interest, do you have an example?
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JamesWales
No they aren't. A small band of people on here are FOREVER posting endless threads that have no interest in nuance or balance, they are all attacks on one party or government using usually a tiny nugget of truth, that is never really explored (because if it is, you are insulted for not doing what the thread authors want)
It's like listening to someone radical on the Northern Ireland debate who only picks holes in the other side. Catholic this, protestant that. It's embarrasing!
You all actually think this is a normal thread title "The-Two-faced-hypocritical-Buffoon-and-his-Party-set-for-a-Mauling-at-PMQ-s-Today" :hehe:
Billions spent, hundreds of projects, loads of pro's and con's and yet all a small number of you want to talk about is some nugget of controversy on the award of one piece of funding!
Seriously, do you care about the funding of projects in south Wales, or elsewhere? Do any of you genuinely care?
Or is being angry about clickbait articles what you care more about? Is there any interest in a debate on the Levelling Up programme, or is it just gossip you care about?
This is a genuine question now, because I am starting to think you really don't care at all.
The guy who wrote The-Two-faced-hypocritical-Buffoon-and-his-Party-set-for-a-Mauling-at-PMQ-s-Today is definitely not a biased leftie :hehe:
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JamesWales
I do care, thats why I want to talk about projects that will benefit people, not be dragged down in a story from the other side of the country.
I've worked with so many people like you before, who are only ever interested in putting up barriers and making things as difficult as possible.
It's endless negativity. Any attempt to widen the debate beyond disney-type arguments that the GovErNmEnT r EvIL just never succeeds.
Total waste of time, so enjoy what will inevitably now be another circle-jerk thread for angry old activists.
"Endless negativity" :hehe:
I've made a handful of posts.
You're a strange one, James.
At least you didn't try to pretend to care about the cronyism and corruption in the current Tory party when questioned. I'll take that as a sign of growth.
Enjoy your blinkered day, old chap.
